I feel so sad and don’t know how to cope

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They want you to go. You can wait until they push you out or leave on your own but out is what they want.


Yes unfortunately this is a likely scenario.


Yep. Agree 100%. In my opinion, I'd wait to be pushed out and look for another opportunity in the meantime. If you can't find another position then at least you could draw unemployment. If you quit, you can't.
Anonymous
The reason im not in the headspace to look for something is that I just found out im pregnant. Not sure starting a new job makes sense? I wouldn’t have built up enough equity for Drs appts, leave etc
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, I’m sorry you’re struggling. It sounds like they made this move without looping you in first or reassuring you that it has nothing to do with your performance. But it really sounds like you answered your own question early on: “ the VP this director reported to always questioned why this team under me existed as he felt like one of the teams under this director was doing similar work.” That’s the answer.

Again, I’m sorry you were blindsided and you sound like a good manager who is proud of your work and your team. But I’ve been in this position before as a team member on the team who is reporting to Manager A, but where Manager B in a completely different department is doing very similar work, also where the rest of my manager’s direct reports are doing very different work to what I was doing. For company efficiency’s sake, it would have been better for my little team of 3 to be reporting to Manager B. But people were afraid to rock the boat and make changes so the odd org structure that dated back 20+ years when the company looked very different was allowed to continue.


Thank you. To give more context my team was focused on credit risk, the other team on FP&A, both teams in the Finance org. So my team would look at loss rates and the other team was looking at P/L impact but they would take over sometimes n start presenting about losses or would start working on strategies without including my team. The Product team preferred working with the other team as they’d say yes to everything while my team would put controls/guardrails in place and questions why are we doing a vs b.


Have you posted before about this? It feels familiar- as in your team is not. as popular because they have to say no which is their job.
If that was you and you felt the "unpopularity" before of your very successful team, then that could be why they moved it under the other director.



Agree this feels really familiar and similarly written. Especially about being embarrassed.


Yes, same
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The reason im not in the headspace to look for something is that I just found out im pregnant. Not sure starting a new job makes sense? I wouldn’t have built up enough equity for Drs appts, leave etc


How old are you?
Anonymous
Ok, so being pregnant changes things a bit. I'm a fan of moving on/always be looking earlier rather than later but stability and FMLA is important. You can make this situation more comfortable; you got this. (Big congratulations, too! So much to look forward to, truly.)
Anonymous
Something similar happened to my manager who had spent years building out a team and a function. Some other more senior person who was buddies with the department head took over the team and my manager was reassigned to some random crap.

He's extremely well-respected and the team continues to miss his leadership a couple of years later. I am lucky and got to go back to work for him - I didn't care what the work was , I was just happy to have such a smart and supportive manager.

In terms of facing the team, be straightforward with them in terms of what you do know to the extent they ask questions. My manager called me about an hour before the transition was announced to tell me personally, and I really respected that. Continue to act with dignity and your people will respect you, even if its a shitty situation outside of your control.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok, so being pregnant changes things a bit. I'm a fan of moving on/always be looking earlier rather than later but stability and FMLA is important. You can make this situation more comfortable; you got this. (Big congratulations, too! So much to look forward to, truly.)


Thank you. It’s still very early and now I'm super stressed as I feel stuck and also wonder if I will eventually be laid off while pregnant
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something similar happened to my manager who had spent years building out a team and a function. Some other more senior person who was buddies with the department head took over the team and my manager was reassigned to some random crap.

He's extremely well-respected and the team continues to miss his leadership a couple of years later. I am lucky and got to go back to work for him - I didn't care what the work was , I was just happy to have such a smart and supportive manager.

In terms of facing the team, be straightforward with them in terms of what you do know to the extent they ask questions. My manager called me about an hour before the transition was announced to tell me personally, and I really respected that. Continue to act with dignity and your people will respect you, even if its a shitty situation outside of your control.


My team felt the same way. It was announced last week and they are all distraught, extremely sad and don’t want to move. They want to keep our 1/1s and still working on it closely with me. It’s been a very sad couple of days for everyone
Anonymous
They probably can't lay you off after you tell them you are pregnant. But as soon as you do you go in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" file.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They probably can't lay you off after you tell them you are pregnant. But as soon as you do you go in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" file.


Yep, tell them right away!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this federal government? We're making a lot of decisions like this. Sometimes it's just who has been here the longest gets chosen as the new supervisor. Many were equally good.


This is how it is at my Agency. However, how do you select who to interview? The interviews seem random but then they always select who has been there the longest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They probably can't lay you off after you tell them you are pregnant. But as soon as you do you go in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" file.


Yep, tell them right away!


Op here. They actually can lay you off if pregnant, I've seen it happen multiple times at my company, some right before they were going on leave. They will just have it as part of a restructure/mass layoff & you won’t be able to prove that it’s because you are pregnant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They probably can't lay you off after you tell them you are pregnant. But as soon as you do you go in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" file.


Yep, tell them right away!


I agree that in this case you might want to consider telling them your are pregnant just so they think twice about laying you off. Not sure if this is your first, but being in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" status as the PP 2 above says is honestly not the worst place to be during pregnancy and with a infant at home. I would certainly prefer it to trying to prove myself at a new job in that timeframe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is this federal government? We're making a lot of decisions like this. Sometimes it's just who has been here the longest gets chosen as the new supervisor. Many were equally good.


This is how it is at my Agency. However, how do you select who to interview? The interviews seem random but then they always select who has been there the longest.


No I work for a large public company
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They probably can't lay you off after you tell them you are pregnant. But as soon as you do you go in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" file.


Yep, tell them right away!


I agree that in this case you might want to consider telling them your are pregnant just so they think twice about laying you off. Not sure if this is your first, but being in the "dead wood we have to keep for 2 years" status as the PP 2 above says is honestly not the worst place to be during pregnancy and with a infant at home. I would certainly prefer it to trying to prove myself at a new job in that timeframe.

Yea this definitely worries me a lot which is why I'm not interviewing. I don’t even know if anyone would want to hire me once I disclose I'm pregnant
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