Yale has an initial culling of applications; does anyone know the SAT/ACT cutoff?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the international student from ND interview? I wonder how that went? How about that girl bragging online about her 1370? She had an interview? Come on, you are all taking this way too seriously. They pick who they pick to round out the DEI, geographic diversity, etc. These are not all top notch kids, it's actually silly to obsess over HPY, after TO, those days are over, they showed their true colors.

But they are test required again now

Whoop di do, that's the new trend, yes, but they caved and lost their luster, imo. Their brand is tarnished, might as well go to UC with basic math for 50%. Same at HPY now...

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Anonymous wrote:There are TONS of kids who apply to Ivies as a "what if." Even if they only toss transcripts with tons of Bs and Cs and don't even look at scores, that likely eliminates a swath of applicants.

AOs say that 60-80% of applicants are qualified.

I simply don't believe that -- all the top schools say it to an extent, but it feels like a throwaway line.

DP I agree. I have known so many kids who applied to HYPMS after taking the SAT 4 times to get to 1500 superscore. I think 60-80% “qualified” is technically true if you call 1400 qualified, but in reality I bet only 40% are legit candidates. On the other end of my observation is that kids who are truly top kids do get into these schools pretty reliably.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are TONS of kids who apply to Ivies as a "what if." Even if they only toss transcripts with tons of Bs and Cs and don't even look at scores, that likely eliminates a swath of applicants.

AOs say that 60-80% of applicants are qualified.

I simply don't believe that -- all the top schools say it to an extent, but it feels like a throwaway line.

DP I agree. I have known so many kids who applied to HYPMS after taking the SAT 4 times to get to 1500 superscore. I think 60-80% “qualified” is technically true if you call 1400 qualified, but in reality I bet only 40% are legit candidates. On the other end of my observation is that kids who are truly top kids do get into these schools pretty reliably.

A 1500 for an unhooked candidate is not high enough.

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Pre-pandemic, I was an alum interviewer for Penn, back when they tried to guarantee an interview for every applicant. One of my interviewees was a young man who I met at a Starbucks in a neighboring town. He told me his Dad was tired of him doing nothing with his life, and had forced him to apply to a bunch of Ivy league schools. He worked part-time at a warehouse distribution center, his primary activity outside of work was playing video games and partying with his friends, and he had graduated from high school two years earlier with a 2.5 GPA and bare minimum state-required classes. He volunteered all this info, as an interviewer I didn't see grades or any application detail. He was very nice, but I left the meeting wondering why my Alma mater wasted an hour or 2 of my time. With Yale's name recognition, I am sure they have way more applicants like this than Penn. Probably very easy to make a first cut.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are TONS of kids who apply to Ivies as a "what if." Even if they only toss transcripts with tons of Bs and Cs and don't even look at scores, that likely eliminates a swath of applicants.

AOs say that 60-80% of applicants are qualified.

I simply don't believe that -- all the top schools say it to an extent, but it feels like a throwaway line.

DP I agree. I have known so many kids who applied to HYPMS after taking the SAT 4 times to get to 1500 superscore. I think 60-80% “qualified” is technically true if you call 1400 qualified, but in reality I bet only 40% are legit candidates. On the other end of my observation is that kids who are truly top kids do get into these schools pretty reliably.

A 1500 for an unhooked candidate is not high enough.

You all are predictably ridiculous. Saying that a 1400 SAT is not qualified or a 1500 isn’t high enough. Of course those kids are qualified academically even if they don’t make the final cut for the very few available seats.

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-pandemic, I was an alum interviewer for Penn, back when they tried to guarantee an interview for every applicant. One of my interviewees was a young man who I met at a Starbucks in a neighboring town. He told me his Dad was tired of him doing nothing with his life, and had forced him to apply to a bunch of Ivy league schools. He worked part-time at a warehouse distribution center, his primary activity outside of work was playing video games and partying with his friends, and he had graduated from high school two years earlier with a 2.5 GPA and bare minimum state-required classes. He volunteered all this info, as an interviewer I didn't see grades or any application detail. He was very nice, but I left the meeting wondering why my Alma mater wasted an hour or 2 of my time. With Yale's name recognition, I am sure they have way more applicants like this than Penn. Probably very easy to make a first cut.

Uh, because Yale runs alumni interviews to get YOU, the alum, involved so you will feel empowered and give more money. All Ivies do this for this reason. The interviews mean nothing. Your report back to Yale means nothing (they say it does, but it doesn't). Everyone knows this. I did it for Harvard. It's all about marketing you.

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-pandemic, I was an alum interviewer for Penn, back when they tried to guarantee an interview for every applicant. One of my interviewees was a young man who I met at a Starbucks in a neighboring town. He told me his Dad was tired of him doing nothing with his life, and had forced him to apply to a bunch of Ivy league schools. He worked part-time at a warehouse distribution center, his primary activity outside of work was playing video games and partying with his friends, and he had graduated from high school two years earlier with a 2.5 GPA and bare minimum state-required classes. He volunteered all this info, as an interviewer I didn't see grades or any application detail. He was very nice, but I left the meeting wondering why my Alma mater wasted an hour or 2 of my time. With Yale's name recognition, I am sure they have way more applicants like this than Penn. Probably very easy to make a first cut.

Uh, because Yale runs alumni interviews to get YOU, the alum, involved so you will feel empowered and give more money. All Ivies do this for this reason. The interviews mean nothing. Your report back to Yale means nothing (they say it does, but it doesn't). Everyone knows this. I did it for Harvard. It's all about marketing you.

The point was that I met a wildly unprepared applicant, who had a 0% chance of getting into the school. I am sure there are a great many of these applicants that Yale is now dispensing with right away.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are TONS of kids who apply to Ivies as a "what if." Even if they only toss transcripts with tons of Bs and Cs and don't even look at scores, that likely eliminates a swath of applicants.

AOs say that 60-80% of applicants are qualified.

I simply don't believe that -- all the top schools say it to an extent, but it feels like a throwaway line.

DP I agree. I have known so many kids who applied to HYPMS after taking the SAT 4 times to get to 1500 superscore. I think 60-80% “qualified” is technically true if you call 1400 qualified, but in reality I bet only 40% are legit candidates. On the other end of my observation is that kids who are truly top kids do get into these schools pretty reliably.

A 1500 for an unhooked candidate is not high enough.

Exactly. So many kids who apply to HYPMS after taking took multiple tests to finally get to 1500, which is still not high enough but they think it is. These kids would still be counted as part of the 60-80% qualified technically but we all know they are not

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-pandemic, I was an alum interviewer for Penn, back when they tried to guarantee an interview for every applicant. One of my interviewees was a young man who I met at a Starbucks in a neighboring town. He told me his Dad was tired of him doing nothing with his life, and had forced him to apply to a bunch of Ivy league schools. He worked part-time at a warehouse distribution center, his primary activity outside of work was playing video games and partying with his friends, and he had graduated from high school two years earlier with a 2.5 GPA and bare minimum state-required classes. He volunteered all this info, as an interviewer I didn't see grades or any application detail. He was very nice, but I left the meeting wondering why my Alma mater wasted an hour or 2 of my time. With Yale's name recognition, I am sure they have way more applicants like this than Penn. Probably very easy to make a first cut.

Uh, because Yale runs alumni interviews to get YOU, the alum, involved so you will feel empowered and give more money. All Ivies do this for this reason. The interviews mean nothing. Your report back to Yale means nothing (they say it does, but it doesn't). Everyone knows this. I did it for Harvard. It's all about marketing you.

The point was that I met a wildly unprepared applicant, who had a 0% chance of getting into the school. I am sure there are a great many of these applicants that Yale is now dispensing with right away.

Absolutely. I know someone very highly placed at an Ivy+ who told me that half of the applicants are "equally" qualified, meaning rigor, grades, scores and extracurriculars that seems more reasonable than the claim that 80% could do the work. But whatever the ratio it makes sense for all of these schools to rapidly dispense with those applications so they can spend the bulk of their effort working to winnow those in connection down to an entering class

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-pandemic, I was an alum interviewer for Penn, back when they tried to guarantee an interview for every applicant. One of my interviewees was a young man who I met at a Starbucks in a neighboring town. He told me his Dad was tired of him doing nothing with his life, and had forced him to apply to a bunch of Ivy league schools. He worked part-time at a warehouse distribution center, his primary activity outside of work was playing video games and partying with his friends, and he had graduated from high school two years earlier with a 2.5 GPA and bare minimum state-required classes. He volunteered all this info, as an interviewer I didn't see grades or any application detail. He was very nice, but I left the meeting wondering why my Alma mater wasted an hour or 2 of my time. With Yale's name recognition, I am sure they have way more applicants like this than Penn. Probably very easy to make a first cut.

This type of person would be rejected immediately at Yale and not get an interview.

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-pandemic, I was an alum interviewer for Penn, back when they tried to guarantee an interview for every applicant. One of my interviewees was a young man who I met at a Starbucks in a neighboring town. He told me his Dad was tired of him doing nothing with his life, and had forced him to apply to a bunch of Ivy league schools. He worked part-time at a warehouse distribution center, his primary activity outside of work was playing video games and partying with his friends, and he had graduated from high school two years earlier with a 2.5 GPA and bare minimum state-required classes. He volunteered all this info, as an interviewer I didn't see grades or any application detail. He was very nice, but I left the meeting wondering why my Alma mater wasted an hour or 2 of my time. With Yale's name recognition, I am sure they have way more applicants like this than Penn. Probably very easy to make a first cut.

Uh, because Yale runs alumni interviews to get YOU, the alum, involved so you will feel empowered and give more money. All Ivies do this for this reason. The interviews mean nothing. Your report back to Yale means nothing (they say it does, but it doesn't). Everyone knows this. I did it for Harvard. It's all about marketing you.

Wrong. Yale interviews count. Harvard interviews don’t.

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The inference is that if one gets an REA interview they made the first, gross cull at Yale.

Yale changed from everyone gets an interview to a less oprah-y metric.

An unhooked applicant from Loudon or Fairfax County is not making the first cut with a 1390 SAT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are TONS of kids who apply to Ivies as a "what if." Even if they only toss transcripts with tons of Bs and Cs and don't even look at scores, that likely eliminates a swath of applicants.

AOs say that 60-80% of applicants are qualified.

I simply don't believe that -- all the top schools say it to an extent, but it feels like a throwaway line.

DP I agree. I have known so many kids who applied to HYPMS after taking the SAT 4 times to get to 1500 superscore. I think 60-80% “qualified” is technically true if you call 1400 qualified, but in reality I bet only 40% are legit candidates. On the other end of my observation is that kids who are truly top kids do get into these schools pretty reliably.

A 1500 for an unhooked candidate is not high enough.

You all are predictably ridiculous. Saying that a 1400 SAT is not qualified or a 1500 isn’t high enough. Of course those kids are qualified academically even if they don’t make the final cut for the very few available seats.

After learning all those remedial math classes at ivies, you know how arbitrary they could be. A 1500 is certainly academically qualified at Yale or Harvard. Whether or not they will be admitted is another story.

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I know a URM got into Yale with 1230 SAT a few year ago when AA was still implemented. Would this applicant get culled today?

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