niki glaser on snl

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Anonymous wrote:Female comedians are all so awful. Glazer, Chelsea Handler, Whitney Cummings, and Amy Schumer were all the same exact lol I’m a shameless whore, my vagina, and abortion humor over and over and over.

Add Ali Wong to that list. However, I don’t think all female comedians are awful, I like Christina Pazsitzky, Tom Segura’s wife.

Wow shocker that the one female comedian you like has a right wing podcast.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her stand up is generally pretty funny -- she's not my favorite but I think she has some good bits. I don't think SNL was her best work -- maybe she was nervous? I think a lot of comedians try to take some of their favorite bits from their act and cram them into the shorter monologue time frame and you end up losing the flow from the original act, and it seems forced. Monologues are generally better when they are written specifically for the show, but I think a lot of stand up comedians are uncomfortable doing stuff that they haven't vetted and worked out in front of audiences.

So far this season, the writing has just felt off in almost all the skits. The AG doll one was okay, but not that creative. The sorority girl one was really stupid (and a missed opportunity because a sorority girl skit would seem to hit in her heartland). Unfortunately, SNL lost most of their best skit actors this year and didn't replace them with actors of equal calibre. And I don't know what's going on in the writing room but they clearly lost some talent. Hoping they are able to find some new ground.

On the female comedian critique above, I have strong feelings. I often like female comedians better than men, but I do think that there's a real problem with them being boxed into a shtick in which they are just overtly focused on their sexuality -- like people only want them on stage if they are going to do a quasi porn act. I feel like female standups were basically shut out of comedy 30+ years ago -- there were a few and they mostly made ground by making fun of themselves (Roseanne, for instance, or Phyllis Diller as an even more extreme example). Then along came Amy Schumer and shocked everyone by talking about sex and her body so openly. I think all comedians have a lot of pressure to press the boundaries and shock, and for female comedians that manifests as just a lot of easy jokes about blow jobs and sex. It gets old fast, IMHO. I think one of the funniest stand up specials I've ever seen was Michelle Wolf's Nice Lady, and it was like she made a conscious choice that she wasn't going to go that route. Wanda Sykes is another that just doesn't really do that, and is so so funny. Fortune Feinster is another that is able to do stuff that is not just sex jokes. (Let's hear if for the lesbians who are able to talk about something other then men's d(cks in their standup.) I thought Ali Wong was really funny in her first stand up and then her marriage fell apart and her act became like 80% sex jokes which are just more awkward than funny. And I think Whitney Cummings used up all her funny jokes 10 years ago and now just tells stupid sex shockers. I think part of the problem with getting famous is that you no longer live like a normal person, so no longer have the normal person material for jokes, but I guess that's a problem that stretches across gender.

How about Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, Tig Notaro, Maria Bamford, Kristen Wiig? I’m not really into comedy and I can think of tons of funny women comedians that don’t do the vagina, abortion stuff that the boomers find so shocking. The female comedians aren’t funny thing is so lazy and dumb.

DP, but I don’t think it’s that. I think that the male powers that be and audiences are more willing to find a woman funny if she leans into sex jokes, not that they have to to be funny. Lots of preconceived notions and it is harder for women who aren’t crass to break through, it seems like to me. I would add Wanda Sykes and Leann Morgan to your list of non-crass women.

I think (hope?) that there are enough powerful women in comedy now that we don’t have to just accept what the male powers that be try to give us. Find the women you think are funny - for me, it’s Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, Maya Rudolph - and watch their shows and movies. Poehler’s podcast is hilarious and she talks about women comedians on there. Who, other than the people on this thread, think Whitney Cummings and Chelsea Handler are the only female comedians around?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't love her monologue, but appreciated having an edgier comic who's a woman in the spot (and OMG that dress was worth it alone - amazing and legs for days that made me quite envious). See above comments for why I appreciated having a comic like her pushing the envelope, even if it wasn't my cup of tea.

Legs for days… and no husband, no kids. Old as hell still making jokes about being a slut, orbiting zoomers half her age, and being a Swiftie. Wow, so aspirational and not totally depressing and sad.

WTF? Your view of her and, I'm guessing, the world in general is weird and sad.

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The flying mechanical bull skit was bonkers! I'd put this episode at #2 of the five so far. In order, I'd probably go:

Miles Teller
Nikki Glaser
Amy Poehler
Sabrina Carpenter
Bad Bunny

I wasn't familiar with sombr but thought he was really good!

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I like so many female comedians/actresses who can be funny: Tina fey, Amy poehler, Paula Pell, Melissa McCarthy, the broad city ladies, atsuko otsuka, Kristen Wiig, Jessica Kirson, and lots of lesser known comedians on x and IG, especially younger ones.

I just find Nikki Glazer more vulgar than funny. Sarah Silverman and Margaret Cho are vulgar AND funny. Nikki Glazer is just vulgar. Some of her roast bits are funny, but most are just cringe to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Female comedians are all so awful. Glazer, Chelsea Handler, Whitney Cummings, and Amy Schumer were all the same exact lol I’m a shameless whore, my vagina, and abortion humor over and over and over.

Add Ali Wong to that list. However, I don’t think all female comedians are awful, I like Christina Pazsitzky, Tom Segura’s wife.

Wow shocker that the one female comedian you like has a right wing podcast.

How sad seeing everything in life thru politics. You are as extreme as MAGA just on the other side of the spectrum.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually. Pretty funny.

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Female comedians are all so awful. Glazer, Chelsea Handler, Whitney Cummings, and Amy Schumer were all the same exact lol I’m a shameless whore, my vagina, and abortion humor over and over and over.

Add Ali Wong to that list. However, I don’t think all female comedians are awful, I like Christina Pazsitzky, Tom Segura’s wife.

Wow shocker that the one female comedian you like has a right wing podcast.

How sad seeing everything in life thru politics. You are as extreme as MAGA just on the other side of the spectrum.

Says the person who conveniently only likes a MAGA comedian.

I am not the one who said all liberal female comedians are bad. I like liberal and conservative comedians. Would never claim to hate an entire side. Which you did.

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I think we have to separate the conversation about funny actresses from stand ups. Stand up comedy is a specific thing. I think Tina Fey is an incredibly funny writer and a decently funny performer, but she's not a stand up. I know she and Pohler (who is also not a stand up) did a comedy tour together, but their background is in sketch comedy, which is what SNL is. That's different than stand up even though some people do both.

I don't think Nikki Glaser is a particularly great stand up. I see a LOT of stand up and to me the issue isn't that her comedy is crass (though it is) it's that it's cheap and lazy. But there are tons of male comics who are similar, this is actually the majority of comics. I think she actually benefits from being a woman doing this bog standard standup full of "edgy" jokes about race and sex, especially a pretty woman willing to wear a lot of short, tight clothes. There are plenty of men who do the same sort of humor and none of them are hosting SNL.

Standup comedy is also very male-dominated, like to a 10-1 ratio or something. It's better than it used to be but still very, very bro-y. It's because the way you succeed as a standup is by working at night in crappy clubs and traveling for weeks at a time, for years. Like all through your 20s and well into your 30s, when you *might* finally break through and get a special. That lifestyle sucks. A lot of standups are miserable. For women, there's an added problem of the lifestyle being kind of dangerous -- you're showing up to Des Moines at 4pm and getting picked up at the airport by some lackey from the comedy club and then driven to some trash hotel where the door barely locks and then working 8-1am for three days and then leaving. That's also not fun for men but they will be less likely to spend the entire weekend making sure their mace and rape whistle are handy. That's why a lot of women who end up in standup have abrasive, crass personalities. It's a way to disarm people and also protect themselves.

So a lot of women choose other paths into comedy -- TikTok, sketch comedy, podcasts, writing. But some people still really want to stand on stage and tell their jokes and see if people will laugh. It's very cool when it works well. Glaser is okay at it. She's been doing it a long time so she's a good working comic, even if her comedy is pretty standard and dull.

A younger female comic I haven't seen listed here, who is truly a standup and is very funny, is Taylor Tomlinson. She had a late night show on CBS for a while but I think she quit or was canceled? She's great though and has several specials out. She works a little blue but it's more nuanced than what Glaser or Whitney Cummings do -- she's not just trying to shock people with jokes about sex. She does a lot of jokes about friendship, her parents, religion, etc. Just a better, more well-rounded, persona and observational comic IMO. I think she probably has a development deal for a sitcom but I don't think it's gone anywhere.