PSAT's shockingly low

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Anonymous wrote:My kid practised with Khan Academy for SAT for free. He scored well enough to become NMS in college and earn a scholarship.

He had high PSAT in 9th, shockingly low in 10th grade.

NP. This gives me hope for improvement. High psat in 9th, very low in 10th here.

Yes, this is not uncommon. Somehow the high scores of 9th grade PSAT gives them false confidence that they don't have to work hard. Dismal 10th PSAT scores (lower than 9th PSAT) was the shock that my kid needed to start practicing on Khan Academy. You can link your PSAT scores on collegeboard website to Khan Academy. KA then gives you a targeted individualized interactive and adaptive study guide that is both tutoring and coaching. It is beautiful.

The beauty of PSAT and SAT is that it is formulaic to ace.

The full test score or subscores/full test? Where do I get that?

In the college board account - make sure they register for one.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11th grader was bummed by his score too. He scored out of line with all his previous standards testing, including past PSATs. He has dyslexia. Sometimes you have a slightly off day.

Dyslexia is a very difficult learning disability to overcome. I hope you’re not expecting too much. Same with OP. Parents sometimes think their child is brilliant when the child is a very good student but not brilliant, not in the top 10%. Be happy for how well they are doing.

NP. You might be shocked to learn that kids can have a learning disability and still be brilliant. Ever hear of 2E kids? Your post drips with condescension.

No it’s not condescending. My son has a learning disability. Testing shows that he is way above grade level with one on one testing. His test scores and IQ results would put him in the 95%tile for his grade. But he can’t do well in the classroom. He can’t do well with independent homework. He is not twice exceptional.

Having dyslexia is a roadblock that most kids are lucky enough not to have. To acknowledge that your child has to work so much harder than others has to be taken into consideration.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11th grader was bummed by his score too. He scored out of line with all his previous standards testing, including past PSATs. He has dyslexia. Sometimes you have a slightly off day.

Dyslexia is a very difficult learning disability to overcome. I hope you’re not expecting too much. Same with OP. Parents sometimes think their child is brilliant when the child is a very good student but not brilliant, not in the top 10%. Be happy for how well they are doing.

NP. You might be shocked to learn that kids can have a learning disability and still be brilliant. Ever hear of 2E kids? Your post drips with condescension.

No it’s not condescending. My son has a learning disability. Testing shows that he is way above grade level with one on one testing. His test scores and IQ results would put him in the 95%tile for his grade. But he can’t do well in the classroom. He can’t do well with independent homework. He is not twice exceptional.

Having dyslexia is a roadblock that most kids are lucky enough not to have. To acknowledge that your child has to work so much harder than others has to be taken into consideration.

Mine has an IQ of 135 and severe dyslexia. We did 4X/week 45min/day tutoring for two years and now he tests above average on SOL, MAP, and whatever else the state of virginia throws at him. It was costly but worked.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid practised with Khan Academy for SAT for free. He scored well enough to become NMS in college and earn a scholarship.

He had high PSAT in 9th, shockingly low in 10th grade.

NP. This gives me hope for improvement. High psat in 9th, very low in 10th here.

Yes, this is not uncommon. Somehow the high scores of 9th grade PSAT gives them false confidence that they don't have to work hard. Dismal 10th PSAT scores (lower than 9th PSAT) was the shock that my kid needed to start practicing on Khan Academy. You can link your PSAT scores on collegeboard website to Khan Academy. KA then gives you a targeted individualized interactive and adaptive study guide that is both tutoring and coaching. It is beautiful.

The beauty of PSAT and SAT is that it is formulaic to ace.

thanks.

The full test score or subscores/full test? Where do I get that?

In the college board account - make sure they register for one.

Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11th grader was bummed by his score too. He scored out of line with all his previous standards testing, including past PSATs. He has dyslexia. Sometimes you have a slightly off day.

Dyslexia is a very difficult learning disability to overcome. I hope you’re not expecting too much. Same with OP. Parents sometimes think their child is brilliant when the child is a very good student but not brilliant, not in the top 10%. Be happy for how well they are doing.

NP. You might be shocked to learn that kids can have a learning disability and still be brilliant. Ever hear of 2E kids? Your post drips with condescension.

No it’s not condescending. My son has a learning disability. Testing shows that he is way above grade level with one on one testing. His test scores and IQ results would put him in the 95%tile for his grade. But he can’t do well in the classroom. He can’t do well with independent homework. He is not twice exceptional.

Having dyslexia is a roadblock that most kids are lucky enough not to have. To acknowledge that your child has to work so much harder than others has to be taken into consideration.

Mine has an IQ of 135 and severe dyslexia. We did 4X/week 45min/day tutoring for two years and now he tests above average on SOL, MAP, and whatever else the state of virginia throws at him. It was costly but worked.

Dyslexia doesn’t make anyone a failure. It just sucks that your son had to work so much harder than other kids who are his equals in intelligence.

Your son is a success story but there are kids with learning disabilities that can’t break through that wall and do as well as they could if not for the disability.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got our 10th grader's PSAT score back today. He's a good test taker, but has ADHD pretty bad. All his scores on other standardized tests through the years have been above average, so to see that he got a 950 on his PSAT's was pretty disappointing. We plan to put him in a class or hire a tutor for SAT prep, but did anyone have the experience of their kid scoring really low on the PSAT only to improve a lot on the SAT?

If he didn't take any practice tests then you shouldn't be shocked by any score.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11th grader was bummed by his score too. He scored out of line with all his previous standards testing, including past PSATs. He has dyslexia. Sometimes you have a slightly off day.

Dyslexia is a very difficult learning disability to overcome. I hope you’re not expecting too much. Same with OP. Parents sometimes think their child is brilliant when the child is a very good student but not brilliant, not in the top 10%. Be happy for how well they are doing.

NP. You might be shocked to learn that kids can have a learning disability and still be brilliant. Ever hear of 2E kids? Your post drips with condescension.

No it’s not condescending. My son has a learning disability. Testing shows that he is way above grade level with one on one testing. His test scores and IQ results would put him in the 95%tile for his grade. But he can’t do well in the classroom. He can’t do well with independent homework. He is not twice exceptional.

Having dyslexia is a roadblock that most kids are lucky enough not to have. To acknowledge that your child has to work so much harder than others has to be taken into consideration.

Mine has an IQ of 135 and severe dyslexia. We did 4X/week 45min/day tutoring for two years and now he tests above average on SOL, MAP, and whatever else the state of virginia throws at him. It was costly but worked.

Dyslexia doesn’t make anyone a failure. It just sucks that your son had to work so much harder than other kids who are his equals in intelligence.

Your son is a success story but there are kids with learning disabilities that can’t break through that wall and do as well as they could if not for the disability.

Im the poster that you are quoting. I was born poor. We paid 200K for middle school years to have this outcome. If it were me...no. This would not have happened. The public school did not help in ES. I would not have helped in MS. $$$ helped.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11th grader was bummed by his score too. He scored out of line with all his previous standards testing, including past PSATs. He has dyslexia. Sometimes you have a slightly off day.

Dyslexia is a very difficult learning disability to overcome. I hope you’re not expecting too much. Same with OP. Parents sometimes think their child is brilliant when the child is a very good student but not brilliant, not in the top 10%. Be happy for how well they are doing.

NP. You might be shocked to learn that kids can have a learning disability and still be brilliant. Ever hear of 2E kids? Your post drips with condescension.

No it’s not condescending. My son has a learning disability. Testing shows that he is way above grade level with one on one testing. His test scores and IQ results would put him in the 95%tile for his grade. But he can’t do well in the classroom. He can’t do well with independent homework. He is not twice exceptional.

Having dyslexia is a roadblock that most kids are lucky enough not to have. To acknowledge that your child has to work so much harder than others has to be taken into consideration.

Mine has an IQ of 135 and severe dyslexia. We did 4X/week 45min/day tutoring for two years and now he tests above average on SOL, MAP, and whatever else the state of virginia throws at him. It was costly but worked.

Dyslexia doesn’t make anyone a failure. It just sucks that your son had to work so much harder than other kids who are his equals in intelligence.

Your son is a success story but there are kids with learning disabilities that can’t break through that wall and do as well as they could if not for the disability.

Im the poster that you are quoting. I was born poor. We paid 200K for middle school years to have this outcome. If it were me...no. This would not have happened. The public school did not help in ES. I would not have helped in MS. $$$ helped.

Different poster here. My (now young adult) son is twice exceptional. He has a moderately high IQ, and ASD/ADHD/dyscalculia/dysgraphia/low processing speed. We kept him in public, because that's where he was getting the best accommodations and double time on exams. And we supplemented with expensive one-on-one tutoring in middle and high school (and before that, I taught him after school every day of elementary). That was the best use of our money. He didn't do the P/SAT, but scored a 35 out of 36 on his ACT with intensive prep. He was able to do a dozen AP courses and is now doing well in college.

But none of that would have been possible if:
1. He didn't have an academic bent in the first place, in addition to the relatively high IQ. That's something he was born with.
2. We hadn't essentially tutored him all his life and prioritized his learning.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got a 1090 or something like that on the PSAT. Lowest among her peers. We were worried too. But she managed to get a 1450 on the SAT with some help. Your DC can improve too.

Sad that they compared. Our kids and their friends didn’t do that.

I can hear you judging from here. Most kids ask each other. Some, including my son, do not. But I know he's an outlier. He also has autism and is asocial.

The type who ask for other students scores are the ones who lie. Their parents too.

My son’s friend group all share grades and test scores. They were all sending screen shots of their psat scores as they came in. It’s weird to me, but they don’t seem to be scarring each other for life. They have just always been like that and they think it’s normal.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got a 1090 or something like that on the PSAT. Lowest among her peers. We were worried too. But she managed to get a 1450 on the SAT with some help. Your DC can improve too.

Sad that they compared. Our kids and their friends didn’t do that.

I can hear you judging from here. Most kids ask each other. Some, including my son, do not. But I know he's an outlier. He also has autism and is asocial.

The type who ask for other students scores are the ones who lie. Their parents too.

You really need help. No one's lying. There is no incentive to lie. Maybe just start accepting that in the reality in which you live, there is a wide range of real scores, and real people who share real info about their lives. This should not be shocking to a person with a healthy mindset.

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It sounds like the PSAT was a bit hard this year. My 10th grader at TJ got 1370 and that was the highest score among friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Perfect timing. Start SAT classes (or even Khan Academy) second semester of sophomore year. Then have them take the SATs as much as possible. Practice makes perfect! My kid started test prep second semester junior year and I truly think it was a year too late.

When did he take the real test(s)? Senior year?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got a 1090 or something like that on the PSAT. Lowest among her peers. We were worried too. But she managed to get a 1450 on the SAT with some help. Your DC can improve too.

Sad that they compared. Our kids and their friends didn’t do that.

My 10th grader learned the scores were out when his friends were writing their scores on Snapchat. He then told me his scores and the scores his closest friends got. I found it a little odd, but I think it’s also nice how much they share with each other. Support.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11th grader was bummed by his score too. He scored out of line with all his previous standards testing, including past PSATs. He has dyslexia. Sometimes you have a slightly off day.

Dyslexia is a very difficult learning disability to overcome. I hope you’re not expecting too much. Same with OP. Parents sometimes think their child is brilliant when the child is a very good student but not brilliant, not in the top 10%. Be happy for how well they are doing.

NP. You might be shocked to learn that kids can have a learning disability and still be brilliant. Ever hear of 2E kids? Your post drips with condescension.

No it’s not condescending. My son has a learning disability. Testing shows that he is way above grade level with one on one testing. His test scores and IQ results would put him in the 95%tile for his grade. But he can’t do well in the classroom. He can’t do well with independent homework. He is not twice exceptional.

Having dyslexia is a roadblock that most kids are lucky enough not to have. To acknowledge that your child has to work so much harder than others has to be taken into consideration.

Mine has an IQ of 135 and severe dyslexia. We did 4X/week 45min/day tutoring for two years and now he tests above average on SOL, MAP, and whatever else the state of virginia throws at him. It was costly but worked.

Dyslexia doesn’t make anyone a failure. It just sucks that your son had to work so much harder than other kids who are his equals in intelligence.

Your son is a success story but there are kids with learning disabilities that can’t break through that wall and do as well as they could if not for the disability.

Im the poster that you are quoting. I was born poor. We paid 200K for middle school years to have this outcome. If it were me...no. This would not have happened. The public school did not help in ES. I would not have helped in MS. $$$ helped.

I’m the PP with the senior who went test optional. I’m revising your post a little. Money, test prep, buy in from your kid and his work ethic helped.

We also pulled for private school but one that is not as expensive. My kid also had ADHD. We decided to not hyper focus on testing.

There is no doubt about it, he learned real writing instruction in private school that was missing in public and a more traditional and rigorous math program. I agree with you on that. But he still never took the SATs and has no regrets.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the PSAT was a bit hard this year. My 10th grader at TJ got 1370 and that was the highest score among friends.

Thanks for sharing, my ASD/ADHD kid that teachers have underestimated every year (6th grade math teacher said he should repeat 6th grade math bc of slow progressing speed). TJ would have been a wonderful school for him, he’s such a “scientist” brain but couldn’t consider bc of the workload. Anyway, 10th grade now and got 1350 on PSAT. He’s in algebra 2 this year so hasn’t learned all the math section yet, hopefully that will help next year.