Christopher Scholtes (man who left 2 year old in hot car in AZ in July 2024) found dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Yep. What a POS.

At least he saved the tax payers money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

You should look at the Arizona murder statute before saying something like this. Second degree murder:

“Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life, the person recklessly engages in conduct that creates a grave risk of death and thereby causes the death of another person, including an unborn child or, as a result of recklessly causing the death of another person, causes the death of an unborn child.“

Leaving a 2-year-old alone in a car in the summer in Arizona when it is 110 degrees outside certainly meets that standard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

There is always more to the story that is suppressed for political reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re not supposed to leave a kid alone in a car in Arizona, it would be nice if somebody told people about this rule ahead of time.

Really?
You’re not supposed to leave your kid alone on a car PERIOD.

[Anonymous]

Is this the dude with the doctor wife who was defending him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Yep. What a POS.

At least he saved the tax payers money.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re not supposed to leave a kid alone in a car in Arizona, it would be nice if somebody told people about this rule ahead of time.

Really?
You’re not supposed to leave your kid alone on a car PERIOD.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

GMAFB with this "not on his mind that it was so hot" when it's July in AZ. You're either a troll or a lunatic.

Per the PP's linked news reports: "Investigators say the day 2-year-old Parker Scholtes died, she spent almost three-and-a-half hours strapped in a car seat in temperatures well over 100 degrees; while her father sat in the living room drinking, playing video games and watching pornography. Text messages from Scholtes’ wife show her reminding him she’d told him many times to stop leaving their children in the car."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

+1. No one is saying what he did was correct but there have been drunk drivers who killed multiple people and murderers who have gotten well under 20-30 years as their sentence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this the dude with the doctor wife who was defending him?

Yes, his wife is an anesthesiologist. From what I’ve read, the husband had an addictive personality and perhaps she was enabling him? Not sure of the dynamics there. I’m wondering if the wife told him she planned to divorce him while he was incarcerated and that was the final straw.

Has anyone read about his first child, now a 17 year old? He had custody of her at one time and she recently filed a lawsuit against them for maltreatment and misappropriation of her SSI payments (she has Type 1 DM). She had previously reported him to CPS but none of her concerns could be validated, apparently. Her mom ( who never married Scholtes) died of cancer a while ago. So sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

+1. No one is saying what he did was correct but there have been drunk drivers who killed multiple people and murderers who have gotten well under 20-30 years as their sentence

I think public outrage might have contributed to the severity of his sentence.

It’s interesting that his MIL initially supported him until she followed social media that was extremely critical of him. Then she turned against him and became estranged from her daughter and grandkids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

+1. No one is saying what he did was correct but there have been drunk drivers who killed multiple people and murderers who have gotten well under 20-30 years as their sentence

He actually was offered a plea deal of 10 years. They declined it. Then discovery happened and it came out he was actually inside for hours watching porn and had a history of doing this with his other kids, one of whom was removed from his custody. That’s when he got the 20-30 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

+1. No one is saying what he did was correct but there have been drunk drivers who killed multiple people and murderers who have gotten well under 20-30 years as their sentence

I think public outrage might have contributed to the severity of his sentence.

It’s interesting that his MIL initially supported him until she followed social media that was extremely critical of him. Then she turned against him and became estranged from her daughter and grandkids.

He baked his daughter in the car! Do you not think that we should hold people who are entirely responsible for the care and safety of another human to a higher standard than just an average person out in the world? Not excusing drunk driving but he had ONE job, to keep her alive. He intentionally left her strapped down to die a tortuous death alone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

+1. No one is saying what he did was correct but there have been drunk drivers who killed multiple people and murderers who have gotten well under 20-30 years as their sentence

I think public outrage might have contributed to the severity of his sentence.

It’s interesting that his MIL initially supported him until she followed social media that was extremely critical of him. Then she turned against him and became estranged from her daughter and grandkids.

He baked his daughter in the car! Do you not think that we should hold people who are entirely responsible for the care and safety of another human to a higher standard than just an average person out in the world? Not excusing drunk driving but he had ONE job, to keep her alive. He intentionally left her strapped down to die a tortuous death alone!

DCUM posters are not big on nuance. In fact, most appear to be utilitarians. From that view, we have a dead body as the outcome in both cases. It doesn't matter how you got there.

[Anonymous]

His case was very different. He left her in the car intentionally on a regular basis. He just got caught this time. He didn’t forget she was there. He knew where she was the whole time.