i think this is a gross exaggeration. See national merit scholars by school. Majority are not at top 20 |
| Our private college counselor said the cut off for the sat scores was 1540/35 not 1500 or even 1530. |
NMS is not nearly as important as SAT score. Everyone can just look at own school's naviance to verify this. |
Since the NMSF index is state-based, you have scores much lower than an SAT equivalent 1560 to qualify for a majority of states. 1570+ on the SAT is a "rare" score. |
Also test prep, superscoring, multiple sitting have much smaller boost for 1570+. It's just hard. |
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An analysis of the SFFA v Harvard data indicates that an applicant to Harvard who had a 1570+ SAT had a 15% (Asian) to 25% (non-hispanic white) chance of admission.
Post SFFA Asians and Whites have a 25%-30% chance. That's how hard it is to get a 1570, even superscored. |
Those percent chances don’t seem as high as I’d expect for a 1570. That said, it appears that places like Caltech, UPenn, and John’s Hopkins get (attract) the really high scorers. |
How about a Hispanic who scored a 1570? |
They are applying to multiple T20s, not just Harvard. It's the accumulated probablity over multiple schools that counts. A harvard reject may get admitted to several other T20s. Even for Harvard, the chance increased from 3-4% to 15-25%. |
These numbers are made up. How does USC have 55% of students scoring 1530 or higher when their median is 1480? |
| DD got a 1550 superscore. We added two Ivies to her list but kept it the same otherwise (mostly large publics, some listed here). Hoping the 1550 helps get some merit money. |
50th percentile is 1520 (https://oir.usc.edu/common-data-set-archive/common-data-set-2024-2025/) |
Only 30% of USC students submitted the SAT score. Of the 30% that submitted, 55% of them scored 1530 or higher. This is why it is so important to see what percent of students actually submitted. |
| this is why these mid 50 ranges are pretty garbage/not representative of the actual student body for a lot of test optional schools. |
+1 My 1600 kid graduated from a school that is often maligned on DCUM and is doing great now. |