Opus Dei

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is just how I feel about Christianity generally.

As an Episcopalian I have about as much in common with these people as I do a a Hassidic Rabbi. This small sect that is about to be outlawed by the Pope doesn't speak for Christianity.

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Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend is Opus Dei and I have known her for forty years and know her and her kids well so I've gotten to know a lot about it. At least in her family, education is highly valued, even for/especially for the girls. Everyone went to a top school and then grad school and continues to work after having kids. The biggest thing is just daily, constant Catholicism. This isn't a Christmas and Easter type religion. It's mass every day, hair shirts, lots of retreats, participating in every single sacrament.

They weren't super into this but I know other OD women who are very into the liturgical year and celebrate every feast day. Check out Kendra Tierney. I believe she's OD or at least her late husband was. She has ten kids.

Yes, Kendra Tierney is an Opus Dei cooperator.

https://catholicallyear.com/blog/what-opus-dei-isn/

Interesting, thanks. What strikes me about these people is that they are just as much cafeteria Catholics as liberal Catholics. Kendra hates Francis and Leo. They basically don't believe in Papal infallibility. They don't follow a lot of the Church's teachings about social justice. Yet they are the True Super Catholics. It's so hypocritical.

They definitely are not the "True Super Catholics" to Catholics.

Of course not, that's what they are to themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend is Opus Dei and I have known her for forty years and know her and her kids well so I've gotten to know a lot about it. At least in her family, education is highly valued, even for/especially for the girls. Everyone went to a top school and then grad school and continues to work after having kids. The biggest thing is just daily, constant Catholicism. This isn't a Christmas and Easter type religion. It's mass every day, hair shirts, lots of retreats, participating in every single sacrament.

They weren't super into this but I know other OD women who are very into the liturgical year and celebrate every feast day. Check out Kendra Tierney. I believe she's OD or at least her late husband was. She has ten kids.

Yes, Kendra Tierney is an Opus Dei cooperator.

https://catholicallyear.com/blog/what-opus-dei-isn/

Interesting, thanks. What strikes me about these people is that they are just as much cafeteria Catholics as liberal Catholics. Kendra hates Francis and Leo. They basically don't believe in Papal infallibility. They don't follow a lot of the Church's teachings about social justice. Yet they are the True Super Catholics. It's so hypocritical.

They definitely are not the "True Super Catholics" to Catholics.

I suspect that they feel good about themselves because they consider themselves to be "True Super Catholics". I'm guessing that they
"basically don't believe in Papal infallibility" because they don't like the current Pope. They suspect he's liberal. (So do I)

If they liked what he said and did, they'd believe he was infallible!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend is Opus Dei and I have known her for forty years and know her and her kids well so I've gotten to know a lot about it. At least in her family, education is highly valued, even for/especially for the girls. Everyone went to a top school and then grad school and continues to work after having kids. The biggest thing is just daily, constant Catholicism. This isn't a Christmas and Easter type religion. It's mass every day, hair shirts, lots of retreats, participating in every single sacrament.

They weren't super into this but I know other OD women who are very into the liturgical year and celebrate every feast day. Check out Kendra Tierney. I believe she's OD or at least her late husband was. She has ten kids.

Yes, Kendra Tierney is an Opus Dei cooperator.

https://catholicallyear.com/blog/what-opus-dei-isn/

Interesting, thanks. What strikes me about these people is that they are just as much cafeteria Catholics as liberal Catholics. Kendra hates Francis and Leo. They basically don't believe in Papal infallibility. They don't follow a lot of the Church's teachings about social justice. Yet they are the True Super Catholics. It's so hypocritical.

They definitely are not the "True Super Catholics" to Catholics.

I suspect that they feel good about themselves because they consider themselves to be "True Super Catholics". I'm guessing that they
"basically don't believe in Papal infallibility" because they don't like the current Pope. They suspect he's liberal. (So do I)

If they liked what he said and did, they'd believe he was infallible!

Which is so absurd because Papal infallibility is like the whole deal! If you don't believe in that than why even bother?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic who knows very little about Opus Dei. I have family member who like to put out an image that their lives are rooted in their Catholic faith but I suspect they are anything but. They are people that are very kind and generous only if there is something in it for them and they are mostly powerful men. I suspect they are involved.
Since the Pope has questioned this organization it makes me want to take a deeper dive into what Opus Dei is all about. Are there any big names (Supreme Court Justices) that identify with this group or is affiliation kept hush?

I think Alito is Opus Dei and Kavanough too. Should be easy enough to find out. You gotta be a guy -- that I know.

Scalia apparently too.

Came here to say that.

Not to make this bleed over into the politics subforum, but this is a problem. When judges, especially Supreme Court judges, have blatant religious influence in their decision making, you wonder why atheists have been so vocal about separating belief from reality in these threads.

If a majority of justices said they were Flying Spaghetti Monster adherents, would you theists here be as supportive? Would you continue to say that their decision making abilities were fine?

I question the ability to make reasonable judgements by anyone who believes myths as facts.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend is Opus Dei and I have known her for forty years and know her and her kids well so I've gotten to know a lot about it. At least in her family, education is highly valued, even for/especially for the girls. Everyone went to a top school and then grad school and continues to work after having kids. The biggest thing is just daily, constant Catholicism. This isn't a Christmas and Easter type religion. It's mass every day, hair shirts, lots of retreats, participating in every single sacrament.

They weren't super into this but I know other OD women who are very into the liturgical year and celebrate every feast day. Check out Kendra Tierney. I believe she's OD or at least her late husband was. She has ten kids.

Yes, Kendra Tierney is an Opus Dei cooperator.

https://catholicallyear.com/blog/what-opus-dei-isn/

Interesting, thanks. What strikes me about these people is that they are just as much cafeteria Catholics as liberal Catholics. Kendra hates Francis and Leo. They basically don't believe in Papal infallibility. They don't follow a lot of the Church's teachings about social justice. Yet they are the True Super Catholics. It's so hypocritical.

They definitely are not the "True Super Catholics" to Catholics.

I suspect that they feel good about themselves because they consider themselves to be "True Super Catholics". I'm guessing that they
"basically don't believe in Papal infallibility" because they don't like the current Pope. They suspect he's liberal. (So do I)

If they liked what he said and did, they'd believe he was infallible!

Which is so absurd because Papal infallibility is like the whole deal! If you don't believe in that than why even bother?

You are very close to cracking open the secret of religion.

“In the beginning Man created God; and in the image of Man created he him. And Man gave unto God a multitude of names, that he might be Lord over the earth when it was suited to man.” - Jethro Tull

"Man created God in his own image." -Ludwig Feuerbach

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend is Opus Dei and I have known her for forty years and know her and her kids well so I've gotten to know a lot about it. At least in her family, education is highly valued, even for/especially for the girls. Everyone went to a top school and then grad school and continues to work after having kids. The biggest thing is just daily, constant Catholicism. This isn't a Christmas and Easter type religion. It's mass every day, hair shirts, lots of retreats, participating in every single sacrament.

They weren't super into this but I know other OD women who are very into the liturgical year and celebrate every feast day. Check out Kendra Tierney. I believe she's OD or at least her late husband was. She has ten kids.

Yes, Kendra Tierney is an Opus Dei cooperator.

https://catholicallyear.com/blog/what-opus-dei-isn/

Interesting, thanks. What strikes me about these people is that they are just as much cafeteria Catholics as liberal Catholics. Kendra hates Francis and Leo. They basically don't believe in Papal infallibility. They don't follow a lot of the Church's teachings about social justice. Yet they are the True Super Catholics. It's so hypocritical.

They definitely are not the "True Super Catholics" to Catholics.

I suspect that they feel good about themselves because they consider themselves to be "True Super Catholics". I'm guessing that they
"basically don't believe in Papal infallibility" because they don't like the current Pope. They suspect he's liberal. (So do I)

If they liked what he said and did, they'd believe he was infallible!

Which is so absurd because Papal infallibility is like the whole deal! If you don't believe in that than why even bother?

There have been precisely two (2) invocations of infallibility: The Assumption and the Immaculate Conception. The Opus Dei status adjustments have nothing to do with infallibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is just how I feel about Christianity generally.

As an Episcopalian I have about as much in common with these people as I do a a Hassidic Rabbi. This small sect that is about to be outlawed by the Pope doesn't speak for Christianity.

Opus Dei is not a “sect;” and it is not being “outlawed.” Aspects of its unique construction as a “personal prelature” under Canon Law are being adjusted so that it operates in a manner more akin to that of other religious orders and Associations of the Faithful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is just how I feel about Christianity generally.

As an Episcopalian I have about as much in common with these people as I do a a Hassidic Rabbi. This small sect that is about to be outlawed by the Pope doesn't speak for Christianity.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is just how I feel about Christianity generally.

As an Episcopalian I have about as much in common with these people as I do a a Hassidic Rabbi. This small sect that is about to be outlawed by the Pope doesn't speak for Christianity.

Opus Dei is not a “sect;” and it is not being “outlawed.” Aspects of its unique construction as a “personal prelature” under Canon Law are being adjusted so that it operates in a manner more akin to that of other religious orders and Associations of the Faithful.

Yes, it is a "sect"
Yes, it is a cult. Any religion that harasses members when they choose to leave is a cult. Any religion that tells its members, especially women, what to wear, how to talk etc is a cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is just how I feel about Christianity generally.

As an Episcopalian I have about as much in common with these people as I do a a Hassidic Rabbi. This small sect that is about to be outlawed by the Pope doesn't speak for Christianity.

Opus Dei is not a “sect;” and it is not being “outlawed.” Aspects of its unique construction as a “personal prelature” under Canon Law are being adjusted so that it operates in a manner more akin to that of other religious orders and Associations of the Faithful.

Cool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic who knows very little about Opus Dei. I have family member who like to put out an image that their lives are rooted in their Catholic faith but I suspect they are anything but. They are people that are very kind and generous only if there is something in it for them and they are mostly powerful men. I suspect they are involved.
Since the Pope has questioned this organization it makes me want to take a deeper dive into what Opus Dei is all about. Are there any big names (Supreme Court Justices) that identify with this group or is affiliation kept hush?

I think Alito is Opus Dei and Kavanough too. Should be easy enough to find out. You gotta be a guy -- that I know.

Scalia apparently too.

Came here to say that.

Not to make this bleed over into the politics subforum, but this is a problem. When judges, especially Supreme Court judges, have blatant religious influence in their decision making, you wonder why atheists have been so vocal about separating belief from reality in these threads.

If a majority of justices said they were Flying Spaghetti Monster adherents, would you theists here be as supportive? Would you continue to say that their decision making abilities were fine?

I question the ability to make reasonable judgements by anyone who believes myths as facts.

Oh FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is just how I feel about Christianity generally.

As an Episcopalian I have about as much in common with these people as I do a a Hassidic Rabbi. This small sect that is about to be outlawed by the Pope doesn't speak for Christianity.

+100, from another Episcopalian.

It probably won't get outlawed though -- they raise a LOT of money.

[Anonymous]

I read this book recently & it's quite interesting. Opus Dei is not just a group of very religious Catholics. It's got a very specific financial structure that allows it to evade responsibility for Opus Dei actions. That's part of what Pope Leo is trying to correct.

Opus: The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy inside the Catholic Church
by Gareth Gore

See also

‘I became like a slave’: why 43 women are suing the secretive Opus Dei Catholic group in Argentina
This article is more than 6 months old
Lured by promises of an education but allegedly trapped in servitude and self-mortification, the former members are suing the ultra-conservative organisation over their ‘exploitation and abuse’

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/apr/14/argentina-human-rights-women-opus-dei-catholic-church-exploitation-abuse-celibacy-trafficking-allegations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read this book recently & it's quite interesting. Opus Dei is not just a group of very religious Catholics. It's got a very specific financial structure that allows it to evade responsibility for Opus Dei actions. That's part of what Pope Leo is trying to correct.

Opus: The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy inside the Catholic Church
by Gareth Gore

See also

‘I became like a slave’: why 43 women are suing the secretive Opus Dei Catholic group in Argentina
This article is more than 6 months old
Lured by promises of an education but allegedly trapped in servitude and self-mortification, the former members are suing the ultra-conservative organisation over their ‘exploitation and abuse’

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/apr/14/argentina-human-rights-women-opus-dei-catholic-church-exploitation-abuse-celibacy-trafficking-allegations

Yeah -- they get turned on by seeing their women suffer. They tell themselves - and the women - that they're doing it for God.