She wouldn’t stop having babies.

[Anonymous]

100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

[Anonymous]

100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

In a perfect world the well being of the children (who are now 2 years old and call the foster parents mom and dad) would be the most important consideration. The children have a family already. Ripping them away from the parents they know would be horrible for them. Fraudulently contracting for a surrogate to birth children does not override the consideration of what is best for the children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

In a perfect world the well being of the children (who are now 2 years old and call the foster parents mom and dad) would be the most important consideration. The children have a family already. Ripping them away from the parents they know would be horrible for them. Fraudulently contracting for a surrogate to birth children does not override the consideration of what is best for the children.

Imagine a world where children are ripped from their actual parents and given to whatever people (richest, WHITEST) a judge feels are most "fit." Are you sure YOU would keep your own kids under that system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hate for this woman is pure misogyny. If freedom of choice means anything, it mean that the court system (particularly the criminal justice system) shouldn't be used to punish a woman because we don't like her reproductive choices. There's zero evidence she's an unfit parent.

If she hadn't committed fraud, no one would have noticed.

And the kids would have grown up as litter mates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hate for this woman is pure misogyny. If freedom of choice means anything, it mean that the court system (particularly the criminal justice system) shouldn't be used to punish a woman because we don't like her reproductive choices. There's zero evidence she's an unfit parent.

If she hadn't committed fraud, no one would have noticed.

And the kids would have grown up as litter mates.

littermates

[Anonymous]

I find it strange that he didn't think about his mandatory retirement and these kids until he retired...he seriously didn't think at 50 that consenting to IVF = no retirement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

I disagree. It sounds to me like the foster parents became foster parents to “foster to adopt” and now they have the perfect children - white, healthy, no drug history, no mental health concerns.

Foster parenting should be undertaken with the goal of reunification with the child’s parents - not adoption out of foster care.

These foster parents should go rescue kids who actually need rescuing - from parents who are not fit to parent. I agree these folks are crazy. Crazy doesn’t mean the children are in actual danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

I disagree. It sounds to me like the foster parents became foster parents to “foster to adopt” and now they have the perfect children - white, healthy, no drug history, no mental health concerns.

Foster parenting should be undertaken with the goal of reunification with the child’s parents - not adoption out of foster care.

These foster parents should go rescue kids who actually need rescuing - from parents who are not fit to parent. I agree these folks are crazy. Crazy doesn’t mean the children are in actual danger.

Foster parents don't get to pick the kids. So it's not like that was how they got these kids. Random chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

I disagree. It sounds to me like the foster parents became foster parents to “foster to adopt” and now they have the perfect children - white, healthy, no drug history, no mental health concerns.

Foster parenting should be undertaken with the goal of reunification with the child’s parents - not adoption out of foster care.

These foster parents should go rescue kids who actually need rescuing - from parents who are not fit to parent. I agree these folks are crazy. Crazy doesn’t mean the children are in actual danger.

Fostering is really complicated and one of the most difficult things a person can do. I look down on anyone who looks down on foster parents. You have no idea what these foster parents were thinking when they brought these kids into their home. They have had them in their home for two years based on court decisions, and they seem prepared to send them away forever with a day's notice. Nothing else but caring for the twins were their decisions...but they seem to have taken good care of the kids in a situation that was never permanent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

In a perfect world the well being of the children (who are now 2 years old and call the foster parents mom and dad) would be the most important consideration. The children have a family already. Ripping them away from the parents they know would be horrible for them. Fraudulently contracting for a surrogate to birth children does not override the consideration of what is best for the children.

Imagine a world where children are ripped from their actual parents and given to whatever people (richest, WHITEST) a judge feels are most "fit." Are you sure YOU would keep your own kids under that system?

This woman isn't their actual parent. Their actual parents are the people who took them home from the hospital and have raised them for two years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

In a perfect world the well being of the children (who are now 2 years old and call the foster parents mom and dad) would be the most important consideration. The children have a family already. Ripping them away from the parents they know would be horrible for them. Fraudulently contracting for a surrogate to birth children does not override the consideration of what is best for the children.

Imagine a world where children are ripped from their actual parents and given to whatever people (richest, WHITEST) a judge feels are most "fit." Are you sure YOU would keep your own kids under that system?

This woman isn't their actual parent. Their actual parents are the people who took them home from the hospital and have raised them for two years.

According to surrogacy laws, the older couple ARE the twins legal parents. The foster parents, who are fighting to maintain custody, are FOSTER parents. Who have had them for 2 years while a state goes rogue.

Yes, the lady is a nut. She’s committed crimes. Lots of parents commit crimes and get custody of their kids back. Worse than forgery crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

I disagree. It sounds to me like the foster parents became foster parents to “foster to adopt” and now they have the perfect children - white, healthy, no drug history, no mental health concerns.

Foster parenting should be undertaken with the goal of reunification with the child’s parents - not adoption out of foster care.

These foster parents should go rescue kids who actually need rescuing - from parents who are not fit to parent. I agree these folks are crazy. Crazy doesn’t mean the children are in actual danger.

Fostering is really complicated and one of the most difficult things a person can do. I look down on anyone who looks down on foster parents. You have no idea what these foster parents were thinking when they brought these kids into their home. They have had them in their home for two years based on court decisions, and they seem prepared to send them away forever with a day's notice. Nothing else but caring for the twins were their decisions...but they seem to have taken good care of the kids in a situation that was never permanent.

The foster parents are fighting for custody and have retained their own lawyer to that end (in the article).

If they were pro reunification they wouldn’t be fighting to maintain custody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twins should have stayed with the foster parents so sad

Absolutely not. Children belong with their parents, not the highest bidder.

How are they their parents? No genetic connection and the dad didn’t even want them.

They’re raising their biological siblings. These two children have been deprived of any relationship with their biological siblings for their entire lives because some backwater judge got the ick about an older woman having kids. Think about that for a minute.

They can still have a relationship with their siblings, not sure why that can’t be the case with the foster parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

In a perfect world the well being of the children (who are now 2 years old and call the foster parents mom and dad) would be the most important consideration. The children have a family already. Ripping them away from the parents they know would be horrible for them. Fraudulently contracting for a surrogate to birth children does not override the consideration of what is best for the children.

Saying foster parents are already the family goes against rules and laws. What she did was unethical but they are the legal parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% this woman is mentally unwell.

However, there is exactly ZERO mental health bar for becoming a parent. Lots and lots of mentally ill parents that are parenting today.

In the perfect world these two would wake up and allow the foster parents to adopt while keeping the kids in the siblings lives. But she's still mentally unwell so nothing less than owning the children is acceptable.

I disagree. It sounds to me like the foster parents became foster parents to “foster to adopt” and now they have the perfect children - white, healthy, no drug history, no mental health concerns.

Foster parenting should be undertaken with the goal of reunification with the child’s parents - not adoption out of foster care.

These foster parents should go rescue kids who actually need rescuing - from parents who are not fit to parent. I agree these folks are crazy. Crazy doesn’t mean the children are in actual danger.

Fostering is really complicated and one of the most difficult things a person can do. I look down on anyone who looks down on foster parents. You have no idea what these foster parents were thinking when they brought these kids into their home. They have had them in their home for two years based on court decisions, and they seem prepared to send them away forever with a day's notice. Nothing else but caring for the twins were their decisions...but they seem to have taken good care of the kids in a situation that was never permanent.

The foster parents are fighting for custody and have retained their own lawyer to that end (in the article).

If they were pro reunification they wouldn’t be fighting to maintain custody.

This is pretty common in foster care and shouldn't be allowed as they are not a party to the case.