Tulane bans HS from ED for 1 year after student backs out

[Anonymous]

Good for Tulane for being direct and explaining why they are no longer taking students from a particular high school. It's very straightforward. And presumably the high school in question and the families that attend that school will no longer engage in such unethical behavior. That's much more fair and effective than the soft bans. A lot of competitive high schools suffer from soft bans due to unethical behavior by prior applicants. Your naviance data will tell you exactly which universities hate your school. Tulane is being straightforward, which is better all around. There are nearly 30,000 high schools in the US. The vast majority play by the rules. I don't think there's anything wrong with naming and shaming the high schools that engage in this kind of unethical behavior. These aren't permanent bans - just incentives to get their act together.

[Anonymous]

There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

So why not apply to the better school in ED? If you got in EA, you’d get in ED. Why apply ED to not your first choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

Why would college counselors send transcripts and other documents from the HS to any other college then the ED choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

I'm sure this is happening. ED comes out in December. You can apply to every EA and RA school by then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We know someone that was accepted ED to a top 20 school but backed out when accepted to a service academy. Told the school his parents were getting a divorce and could no longer afford it, but given the excruciating process of getting admission to a service academy, I’m assuming the divorce was just the excuse.

No repercussions against his HS, that I’m aware of.

Oh, this will be allowed. The Service Academies do not offer ED or EA or SCEA. It's RD for everyone. Our DC went through the West Point application process - which a very long and demanding process. But also applied ED to a T20 private university. The ED admission came before the West Point decision. So DC followed the rules, and removed the West Point app, and attends the private university. However, there was an understanding that you can prioritize a Service Academy appointment over an ED acceptance. Absolutely no university is suing anyone for choosing West Point or Annapolis or the Air Force Academy. Especially if there is a change in financial circumstances - such as a divorce - which is very legitimate reason to defer from an ED commitment for any student. In the example above, nobody did anything wrong.

[Anonymous]

Bunch of boot lickers in this thread. Colleges take advantage of you all the time; might as well squeeze what you can out of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or you could be like my sister in law who spent every last dollar they made and now because BIL was laid off their kids will get a full ride. Didn’t save a dollar and were rewarded.

I don't think a lot of top students are coming from families like this. Paying for college is the least of their problems.

When I get financial aid, I deserve it.

When THEY get financial aid, it’s gaming the system.

Imagine being such a sociopath that when a family member gets laid off, your first thought is “great, now they get a free ride on tuition.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

Why would college counselors send transcripts and other documents from the HS to any other college then the ED choice?

Banning the school as a whole makes a lot more sense if the problem is the counselors, that means it’s an institutional problem with violating the ED agreement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know someone that was accepted ED to a top 20 school but backed out when accepted to a service academy. Told the school his parents were getting a divorce and could no longer afford it, but given the excruciating process of getting admission to a service academy, I’m assuming the divorce was just the excuse.

No repercussions against his HS, that I’m aware of.

Oh, this will be allowed. The Service Academies do not offer ED or EA or SCEA. It's RD for everyone. Our DC went through the West Point application process - which a very long and demanding process. But also applied ED to a T20 private university. The ED admission came before the West Point decision. So DC followed the rules, and removed the West Point app, and attends the private university. However, there was an understanding that you can prioritize a Service Academy appointment over an ED acceptance. Absolutely no university is suing anyone for choosing West Point or Annapolis or the Air Force Academy. Especially if there is a change in financial circumstances - such as a divorce - which is very legitimate reason to defer from an ED commitment for any student. In the example above, nobody did anything wrong.

AI says otherwise:

Yes, a service academy will likely rescind an offer of admission if it discovers a student broke a binding Early Decision (ED) agreement with another college. This is considered a serious breach of ethics and integrity that service academies expect from candidates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bunch of boot lickers in this thread. Colleges take advantage of you all the time; might as well squeeze what you can out of them.

What an inane take. “Colleges take advantage of you all the time” lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those schools should switch to common app. Common app doesn’t allow more than one ED.

I love ED and hope it lasts at least long enough for my second child! It’s a great option for kids not wanting to play the field. DD had a very realistic first choice and wanted an answer as soon as possible. It was great.

Oh, Common App is very easy to get around. You apply apply EA via the Common App and then just switch your "Decision Round" to ED in the school's portal. As you long as you can get a school counselor to sign the form, there is zero limit to the number of schools you can apply ED to.

Well that’s on the counselor then. I highly doubt a public school counselor such as our would allow it. Regardless, we used ED as intended and it worked beautifully for us. I’m so tired of upper middle class whiners claiming that ED won’t let them shop merit aid. Boo-effing-hoo. Kids with true need do fine in ED. Use the NPC and apply places you can afford. You’ll live.

Oh you’re a gem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The counselor, student, and parents signed a binding agreement.

Not legally binding

Unethical

I agree that it is unethical. The ED system is also unethical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

Why would college counselors send transcripts and other documents from the HS to any other college then the ED choice?

UVA EA is the same deadline as other schools’ ED. So transcripts go to all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

Why would college counselors send transcripts and other documents from the HS to any other college then the ED choice?

Because November 1 is also the EA deadline and it’s perfectly acceptable to apply ED to one schools and EA (or early rolling) to a bunch of others. Counselors sending transcripts to EA/rolling schools is the system working as intended.