Seems that Government won't reopen in October (before his Asia)

[Anonymous]

They’ll find a way to pay the feds currently working, but the shutdown itself is going to outlast the turkey leftovers for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't reopen it ever.
That has always been the plan

When Nov comes if they were to lose the House he'd be in trouble.

He is building a bunker a new one in the old one's place and the government is never reopeing and he is never leaving office.

Wake up people military are coming to suburbia all over this country. Russia will be boots on the ground soon as well.

Nope I am not wrong this is all not hard to see. He has literally said he's staying.

Are you high?

I think that post is a little extreme but Trump has said he will “run for a third term” and as recently as today Bannon said, on camera, that Trump would be president again in 2028. Pretty disturbing stuff.

Ballroom is done in 2029…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have an off ramp for this? I don't think so, and I am beginning to feel some despair. Called the offices of Sens. Kaine and Warner this morning and they don't even have anyone working their phone lines - just voicemail. That's some constituent services!

The off ramp is when the Rs feel enough pressure from ACA premiums, TSA issues, no SNAP benefits, etc., and decide to negotiate. It sucks, but the Ds can’t give in.

No.

The off ramp is the Ds voting for the clean budget bill.

Then they can negotiate all this other crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He won't reopen it ever.
That has always been the plan

When Nov comes if they were to lose the House he'd be in trouble.

He is building a bunker a new one in the old one's place and the government is never reopeing and he is never leaving office.

Wake up people military are coming to suburbia all over this country. Russia will be boots on the ground soon as well.

Nope I am not wrong this is all not hard to see. He has literally said he's staying.

Shame on the dams.

Just vote on the clean budget bill like they are elected to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think someone will blink before Thanksgiving.

I hope it won't be the Democrats.

The democrats are in the wrong on this one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't reopen it ever.
That has always been the plan

When Nov comes if they were to lose the House he'd be in trouble.

He is building a bunker a new one in the old one's place and the government is never reopeing and he is never leaving office.

Wake up people military are coming to suburbia all over this country. Russia will be boots on the ground soon as well.

Nope I am not wrong this is all not hard to see. He has literally said he's staying.

Shame on the dams.

Just vote on the clean budget bill like they are elected to do.

Doesnt the “clean CR” end in 3 weeks?

[Anonymous]

The clean CR ends in November 21 - my guess is that there will be a one year CR in place before then, and the Rs will do it with or without the Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't reopen it ever.
That has always been the plan

When Nov comes if they were to lose the House he'd be in trouble.

He is building a bunker a new one in the old one's place and the government is never reopeing and he is never leaving office.

Wake up people military are coming to suburbia all over this country. Russia will be boots on the ground soon as well.

Nope I am not wrong this is all not hard to see. He has literally said he's staying.

Shame on the dams.

Just vote on the clean budget bill like they are elected to do.

The Republicans aren’t even coming to work - the most basic thing they were elected to do! They own the government and are fully responsible for not negotiating enough to get the government to reopen again. They have failed at governance every time they take power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't reopen it ever.
That has always been the plan

When Nov comes if they were to lose the House he'd be in trouble.

He is building a bunker a new one in the old one's place and the government is never reopeing and he is never leaving office.

Wake up people military are coming to suburbia all over this country. Russia will be boots on the ground soon as well.

Nope I am not wrong this is all not hard to see. He has literally said he's staying.

Shame on the dams.

Just vote on the clean budget bill like they are elected to do.

LOL congress was elected to pass a budget, fool. That’s not what they’re voting on! The House isn’t even in session to work on a budget.

[Anonymous]

Thanksgiving is when the rubber hits the road and flights/airports collapse.

Here’s the thing: Trump is unilaterally impounding money. He’s not spending money that was already legally appropriated if he dislikes the city, state, agency, or program.

They just backclawed already-distributed money from state bank accounts.

Hence, the Democrats need to wait out the Republicans and have a real mechanism to distribute Congressionally appropriated money. If that means Thanksgiving is ruined, oh well. Americans and corporations voted for this.

[Anonymous]

As Doug Burgum just mentioned…

“What all of us are doing at the Cabinet is taking a hard look at like, ‘Wow, maybe we don’t need all of these resources. Maybe we're actually able to run with a lot less resources“

A huge part of the shutdown plays right into the hands of people like Burgum and Vought. The public isn’t feeling it yet and they likely won’t notice the full effects of fed layoffs for a while. Vought and Co. are setting up for a massive bloodletting of federal employees. These guys aren’t planning 10k layoffs, they’re planning 400k and I’m not joking at all. The previous RIFs were a practice run at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have an off ramp for this? I don't think so, and I am beginning to feel some despair. Called the offices of Sens. Kaine and Warner this morning and they don't even have anyone working their phone lines - just voicemail. That's some constituent services!

The off ramp is when the Rs feel enough pressure from ACA premiums, TSA issues, no SNAP benefits, etc., and decide to negotiate. It sucks, but the Ds can’t give in.

No.

The off ramp is the Ds voting for the clean budget bill.

Then they can negotiate all this other crap.

Why do you believe the Republicans would actually negotiate this other stuff once the CR is passed? It's not stuff they want, so there's literally no incentive for them to do so. It's like the biggest "trust me, bro" ever.

[Anonymous]

Just allow everyone who is eligible for a VERA during this administration to retire right now, and I guarantee you'll see a bunch of people leave!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As Doug Burgum just mentioned…

“What all of us are doing at the Cabinet is taking a hard look at like, ‘Wow, maybe we don’t need all of these resources. Maybe we're actually able to run with a lot less resources“

A huge part of the shutdown plays right into the hands of people like Burgum and Vought. The public isn’t feeling it yet and they likely won’t notice the full effects of fed layoffs for a while. Vought and Co. are setting up for a massive bloodletting of federal employees. These guys aren’t planning 10k layoffs, they’re planning 400k and I’m not joking at all. The previous RIFs were a practice run at best.

I doubt it. My agency was already cut to the bone and industry does not want us to lose more people or we will slow them down even more. I think they may do some RIFs but more systematic/symbolic and not at the scale you are proposing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As Doug Burgum just mentioned…

“What all of us are doing at the Cabinet is taking a hard look at like, ‘Wow, maybe we don’t need all of these resources. Maybe we're actually able to run with a lot less resources“

A huge part of the shutdown plays right into the hands of people like Burgum and Vought. The public isn’t feeling it yet and they likely won’t notice the full effects of fed layoffs for a while. Vought and Co. are setting up for a massive bloodletting of federal employees. These guys aren’t planning 10k layoffs, they’re planning 400k and I’m not joking at all. The previous RIFs were a practice run at best.

I hope they let go of all the air traffic controllers. Have AI do it all immediately and let's see what happens.