Any point in filling out the Federal Impact Aid Survey?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's one of the few ways parents can get back at FCPS by hitting them in the pocket.

By hitting them in the pocket, you’re just reducing the amount of resources made available to your own student. So by getting back at FCPS you’re hurting your own student.

Let’s rephrase the question..how is filling out this form going to help my student? Maybe you can convince me. Give specifics on how it will help HS students.

From where I sit I’m not sure how I am going to hurt my students. FCPS going to cut course offerings - check they’ve already done that (no Latin at our FCPS high school now, Multivariable is no longer a DE class). FCPS is going to ask me to fund “extras” - check they’ve already done that ($400 state conference bill is sitting on my desk right now) and at least I can control how those are funds are spent. I spend a lot of money on outside tutors so that my kids are well educated and prepared for life.

I can only hope that lack of federal funding will cause FCPS to really look at what they are spending their money on and get back to the basics.

They need to get out of the social engineering business and focus on educating kids. I don’t need the endless FCPS lawyer bills, independent investigations, surveys, studies, etc. And who do they hire for these surveys? They are always slanted and not objective at all.

Maybe your kid's school wouldn't have had to cut those course offerings if everyone had filled out the form.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stopped filling it out when FCPS had this scandal related to “privilege bingo” and being from a military family was considered a privilege. Anyone who works with the military knows that it’s not a cake walk. Some military families can barely afford groceries.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/privilege-bingo-in-fairfax-co-class-meets-controversy-after-it-includes-being-a-military-kid/2942443/?amp=1

By filling out this form, you are not taking away money from military employees.

Understood. I don’t support federal money based on military service going to the FCPS buffoons to teach stupid lessons on privilege that insult our military families.

Lol, imagine being SO mad at somebody saying you might have some.privilege.
Yes military life can be insanely hard. But, military also gets housing paid for, can retire and get pensions after just 20 years of service and then go on to get a whole other paycheck, can often afford to ahve trailing spouses, etc etc etc.
Imagine being SO mad that you would take away funding from kids.

Man, the world we are living in...the politics, the divisiveness, it's just gone too far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's one of the few ways parents can get back at FCPS by hitting them in the pocket.

By hitting them in the pocket, you’re just reducing the amount of resources made available to your own student. So by getting back at FCPS you’re hurting your own student.

Or you're annoying school admin who call you up or stop you when you're picking up your kids.

I've had several conversations where they said i was required to fill them out.

Not sure what contract i signed where I agreed to fill out these BS forms.

When FCPS doesn't have data breaches I might consider filling one out.until then screw FCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one of the few ways parents can get back at FCPS by hitting them in the pocket.

By hitting them in the pocket, you’re just reducing the amount of resources made available to your own student. So by getting back at FCPS you’re hurting your own student.

Let’s rephrase the question..how is filling out this form going to help my student? Maybe you can convince me. Give specifics on how it will help HS students.

From where I sit I’m not sure how I am going to hurt my students. FCPS going to cut course offerings - check they’ve already done that (no Latin at our FCPS high school now, Multivariable is no longer a DE class). FCPS is going to ask me to fund “extras” - check they’ve already done that ($400 state conference bill is sitting on my desk right now) and at least I can control how those are funds are spent. I spend a lot of money on outside tutors so that my kids are well educated and prepared for life.

I can only hope that lack of federal funding will cause FCPS to really look at what they are spending their money on and get back to the basics.

They need to get out of the social engineering business and focus on educating kids. I don’t need the endless FCPS lawyer bills, independent investigations, surveys, studies, etc. And who do they hire for these surveys? They are always slanted and not objective at all.

In years past, FCPS received c. $3M in impact aid from the federal government. This is $3M that FCPS then has available to educate your child. If it does not get the $3M from the feds it either (1) cuts services like Latin offered to your child or (2) raises your taxes so it can offer services. In the meantime, other school districts in the country without petulant parents are filing to get their impact aid, which then makes you wonder why schools in “flyover” states can have nice buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one of the few ways parents can get back at FCPS by hitting them in the pocket.

By hitting them in the pocket, you’re just reducing the amount of resources made available to your own student. So by getting back at FCPS you’re hurting your own student.

Let’s rephrase the question..how is filling out this form going to help my student? Maybe you can convince me. Give specifics on how it will help HS students.

From where I sit I’m not sure how I am going to hurt my students. FCPS going to cut course offerings - check they’ve already done that (no Latin at our FCPS high school now, Multivariable is no longer a DE class). FCPS is going to ask me to fund “extras” - check they’ve already done that ($400 state conference bill is sitting on my desk right now) and at least I can control how those are funds are spent. I spend a lot of money on outside tutors so that my kids are well educated and prepared for life.

I can only hope that lack of federal funding will cause FCPS to really look at what they are spending their money on and get back to the basics.

They need to get out of the social engineering business and focus on educating kids. I don’t need the endless FCPS lawyer bills, independent investigations, surveys, studies, etc. And who do they hire for these surveys? They are always slanted and not objective at all.

In years past, FCPS received c. $3M in impact aid from the federal government. This is $3M that FCPS then has available to educate your child. If it does not get the $3M from the feds it either (1) cuts services like Latin offered to your child or (2) raises your taxes so it can offer services. In the meantime, other school districts in the country without petulant parents are filing to get their impact aid, which then makes you wonder why schools in “flyover” states can have nice buildings.

$3,000,000/181000 students = $16.57 per student.

FCPS cost per student $20,940.

What an impact, so many new school buildings!

[Anonymous]

Is this the first year it asked about Federal worker parents? This is my third year filling it out and I don't remember seeing that in previous years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's one of the few ways parents can get back at FCPS by hitting them in the pocket.

By hitting them in the pocket, you’re just reducing the amount of resources made available to your own student. So by getting back at FCPS you’re hurting your own student.

Let’s rephrase the question..how is filling out this form going to help my student? Maybe you can convince me. Give specifics on how it will help HS students.

From where I sit I’m not sure how I am going to hurt my students. FCPS going to cut course offerings - check they’ve already done that (no Latin at our FCPS high school now, Multivariable is no longer a DE class). FCPS is going to ask me to fund “extras” - check they’ve already done that ($400 state conference bill is sitting on my desk right now) and at least I can control how those are funds are spent. I spend a lot of money on outside tutors so that my kids are well educated and prepared for life.

I can only hope that lack of federal funding will cause FCPS to really look at what they are spending their money on and get back to the basics.

They need to get out of the social engineering business and focus on educating kids. I don’t need the endless FCPS lawyer bills, independent investigations, surveys, studies, etc. And who do they hire for these surveys? They are always slanted and not objective at all.

In years past, FCPS received c. $3M in impact aid from the federal government. This is $3M that FCPS then has available to educate your child. If it does not get the $3M from the feds it either (1) cuts services like Latin offered to your child or (2) raises your taxes so it can offer services. In the meantime, other school districts in the country without petulant parents are filing to get their impact aid, which then makes you wonder why schools in “flyover” states can have nice buildings.

That's the point of the question, FCPS has made it clear that they prioritize having the boy in the girls locker room over Federal funding, so why bother with the forms? They aren't getting the money.

As for the privacy issue, they are just asking where you work, I always put the HQ address, they don't check.

[Anonymous]

It’s crazy that you guys are complaining so much about a form that is essentially requires a checkbox, the name of the government, organization, and your signature. I mean the whole thing it is filled out in about 10 seconds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy that you guys are complaining so much about a form that is essentially requires a checkbox, the name of the government, organization, and your signature. I mean the whole thing it is filled out in about 10 seconds.

Yep.
The internet is the downfall of our society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this the first year it asked about Federal worker parents? This is my third year filling it out and I don't remember seeing that in previous years.

No, it's always asked about civilian employees who work on federal property. It's not asking for all civilians be reported; only those who work in one of the specified locations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please fill them out. The school district gets money for all children of active duty them trying military and federal government workers. It’s free money. It is not impacted by the shut down. It’s important please fill them out.

Except FCPS does not direct that money to the schools with military connected atudents as intended.

It goes into the general fund, away from the military connected students.

FCPS is wasting money on political lawsuits and unnecessary rezoning/consultants right now. That is where their priorities lie, not with students.

If the impact aide money went directly into the classrooms, or proportionally to the schools with military connected students, that would be one thing. But why would anyone fill out the form when the money is just going to go to things completely unrelated to military connected kids or the students at large?

General fund money goes to all the schools. General fund money funds those schools where the military and fed students are attending. You sound like the crazy people who don't pay taxes because some of it is spent on things you don't personally use.

This money does not go where it is intended to go.

It is intended to go to the school system that is funding resources for all these extra military kids without getting tax money to support them. Military are exempt from things like the car tax while deployed here. It is not special money earmarked for only the military kids. It is meant to offset the extra expenses being incurred that are already not being supported.

Mind-boggling how so many parents don’t understand this. I know a military connected parent who refuses to fill out these things because of the transgender bathroom issue. But has three kids all in speech therapy.

[Anonymous]

If it's not legally required for my child to attend school, then I'm not filling it out. They don't need to know where I work. F them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard for me to understand why this form has become so political. Previous posters have made good points about why everyone should complete the form, but it's hard to convince those who have drank the MAGA kool-aid.

Also, it's not to make up for lost revenue from personal property or income tax. Here's a description:

Impact Aid is a Federal education program that reimburses school districts for the lost revenue and additional costs associated with the presence of nontaxable Federal property. Because most public school districts are funded largely through local taxes and fees, and because Federal land is exempt from taxation, as are many of the businesses and facilities located on that land, districts containing Federal property are at a financial disadvantage in funding their schools.

Based on the above explanation, then where anyone works is irrelevant. FCPS can certainly figure out where federal property is within its borders without thousands of parents filling out a form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please fill them out. The school district gets money for all children of active duty them trying military and federal government workers. It’s free money. It is not impacted by the shut down. It’s important please fill them out.

But we aren’t in the military or any of the situations on the form so why do I have to fill it out every year? Nothing applies to us, same for thousands of others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's hard for me to understand why this form has become so political. Previous posters have made good points about why everyone should complete the form, but it's hard to convince those who have drank the MAGA kool-aid.

Also, it's not to make up for lost revenue from personal property or income tax. Here's a description:

Impact Aid is a Federal education program that reimburses school districts for the lost revenue and additional costs associated with the presence of nontaxable Federal property. Because most public school districts are funded largely through local taxes and fees, and because Federal land is exempt from taxation, as are many of the businesses and facilities located on that land, districts containing Federal property are at a financial disadvantage in funding their schools.

Additionally, it helps to fund those students who live in base housing which generates no local property tax. FCPS runs and Belvoir Elementary and Belvoir-based students attend several MS and HS in the county.

If FCPS were smart, then they would have DOD turn any local on-base schooling over to DODEA, which exists solely to operate schools on military bases (some DoDEA sites are CONUS, and many more are OCONUS).

This both would be better for FCPS (alleged cost savings) and also better for the military students. DoDEA understands the needs of military kids much better and is much more supportive of those families needs.