Are Tattoos a Sin?

[Anonymous]

I don't consider them a sin, but most tattoos don't look good and will turn off a lot of potential romantic partners and possibly employers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

I grew up as a strict Pentecostal. I was taught that tattoos were a sin. The teachings were both the Old Testament and New Testament teachings (as an adult I see there was picking and choosing of old testament teachings).

As an adult, I don’t think they are a sin, but I also wouldn’t get one myself.

THey're expensive and painful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH was raised Jewish and was taught tattoos are defilement. Dunno if that's doctrine.

It used to be. I think it may have softened a bit, but a generation or two ago you weren’t allowed to be buried in a Jewish cemetery with a tattoo (there was a funny episode of Curb your enthusiasm with that plot line).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

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I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

This

I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

So what's the point of the OT then, in your opinion, if its all irrelevant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess it depends on if you think nearly anything in the OT is actually relevant.

Or the NT. or that god exists...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

This

I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

This is what gets me about Christians. They disregard all the facts pointing out the flaws and inconsistencies in the Bible, since the only way to overcome the cognitive dissonance is to revert to the "Jesus is love" idea. This is tantamount to saying that Santa is real because "Santa is charitable and generous" and only has one rule: naughty or nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

My gashes in my flesh are not for the dead.

That passage (and much other content) is about idolatry, and stopping practices associated with competing religions. That's where the next line is. "I am your Lord".

Modern tattoos procured by non pagan people aren't pagan rituals.

You know we are in still wandering in the desert, right?


You have to apply a little critical thinking when applying a brief document, aimed at people who lived 2000-5000 years ago, thousands of miles away, to your modern life in your current place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

This

I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

This is what gets me about Christians. They disregard all the facts pointing out the flaws and inconsistencies in the Bible, since the only way to overcome the cognitive dissonance is to revert to the "Jesus is love" idea. This is tantamount to saying that Santa is real because "Santa is charitable and generous" and only has one rule: naughty or nice.

That's not a problem at all. Obviously a different religion has different rules. The problem is when people grab their favorite laws and enforce only those, and only on people that don't like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

This

I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

Or homosexuality, or miscgenation, or feeding the poor, or abortion, or...

[Anonymous]

Of course not. I think they are tacky but not a sin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

This

I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

This is what gets me about Christians. They disregard all the facts pointing out the flaws and inconsistencies in the Bible, since the only way to overcome the cognitive dissonance is to revert to the "Jesus is love" idea. This is tantamount to saying that Santa is real because "Santa is charitable and generous" and only has one rule: naughty or nice.

The gospels are actually quite consistent and the message is much deeper than what you're pretending.

This is what gets me about anti-Christian trolls: they post uneducated nonsense about tattoos that they read in some atheist chat group. Then when that doesn't work, they massively oversimplify the gospels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

This

I love how bible thumpers get tattoos of the cross but don't know the above is in the bible.

Christian here. I knew that was in the Bible.

Reformed Protestant Christians (my tradition) believe that when Jesus Christ came, lived a sinless life fully fulfilling God's entire law to ancient Israel, died, and was raised again that was that for the law. The old covenant between God and his people was finished, completed by Christ himself. Now there's a new covenant. Under that new covenant the ceremonial law (like that verse in Leviticus) and the civil law (all the rules governing the government of Israel) no longer apply. Since the moral law - which is best spelled out in the 10 commandments - existed in the covenants before the old covenant, then it still applies. But the rest of it doesn't.

Before mocking Christians, you should check to see if we've actually...thought about stuff. You do realize entire PhDs exist in theology, right?

NP. This. Jesus brought in a new covenant. He discouraged religious bean counting and emphasized just two OT rules: love God, and love your neighbor. In fact, he said to go beyond loving your neighbor and love your enemy too. He also broke other specific OT rules, for example re consorting with unclean people (tax collectors lol and prostitutes) and specifically said that dietary rules were unnecessary (“it doesn’t matter what goes in your mouth, it matters what comes out of it”). So Christians are adhering to Jesus’ message by not getting fussed about Leviticus’ rules about clothing or tattoos.

Or homosexuality, or miscgenation, or feeding the poor, or abortion, or...

PP here and I'm actually with you on this. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality or abortion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess it depends on if you think nearly anything in the OT is actually relevant.

Or the NT. or that god exists...

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or is that so Old Testament that modern Christians can ink away?

Where in the OT are tattoos even discussed?

Clear as day. Per Leviticus 19:28, “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.

Read this rest of the Bible. This is about branding yourself in devotion to another god. I suppose if your tattoo is to praise Zeus or whatever maybe it’s relevant. Some people praise Jesus in celebration of their Christianity - that’s not what this passage is about