New work habits marks on MS/HS report cards

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

If mine is getting Bs or Cs and has poor work habits, I definitely want to know that — so I can help DC learn better study habits before college.

A B or a C inherently means your child doesn’t have good study habits. You don’t need an additional comment to tell you that. Just look at the letter grade for God’s sake.

Not so. In some cases, Bs and Cs could arise from an illness or from an undiagnosed learning disability or from something else. Many things might lead to a B or C.

[Anonymous]

Since when is a B a bad grade?

[Anonymous]

Teachers, please just autofill anything. This is beyond stupid. I have 2 in HS. One has an IEP in gen ed classes and one is in AP classes.

I don’t need a report card to tell me their work habits and don’t even look at the report card or comments anymore with SIS and all of the other communication.

This sounds a lot like elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We were told about it at last week's TWD. It takes 2 minutes to auto fill down "S" for satisfactory and change the 3-5 kids to "N" (U? Whatever unsatisfactory is) who have a dozen missing assignments or who I have to redirect 14 times a period. I think it adds approximately 0 value though. If a kid is getting an "N", I've already communicated home about behaviors or recorded missing assignments in SIS.

I was surprised to learn it was new for some middle schools though. When I taught middle school it was always required.

Are you saying 2 minutes to complete for 150 students? Still 2 minutes too much, still worthless and doesn’t count the additional time to answer the questions the scoring will likely prompt from students and teachers.

Makes me wonder if it’s worth keeping at the ES level.

That all depends if they transfer over to a gradebook with real grades. This is all they had in the younger grades but it was subjective. I think anything subjective should go. It should be gone in 6th grade is the teachers have actual grades, like they do in MS and HS. They did at our school and posted on Schoology. They we don’t need this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were told about it at last week's TWD. It takes 2 minutes to auto fill down "S" for satisfactory and change the 3-5 kids to "N" (U? Whatever unsatisfactory is) who have a dozen missing assignments or who I have to redirect 14 times a period. I think it adds approximately 0 value though. If a kid is getting an "N", I've already communicated home about behaviors or recorded missing assignments in SIS.

I was surprised to learn it was new for some middle schools though. When I taught middle school it was always required.

Are you saying 2 minutes to complete for 150 students? Still 2 minutes too much, still worthless and doesn’t count the additional time to answer the questions the scoring will likely prompt from students and teachers.

Makes me wonder if it’s worth keeping at the ES level.

That all depends if they transfer over to a gradebook with real grades. This is all they had in the younger grades but it was subjective. I think anything subjective should go. It should be gone in 6th grade is the teachers have actual grades, like they do in MS and HS. They did at our school and posted on Schoology. They we don’t need this.

I assume the 6th graders taking algebra have to have a “real grade”. Does that show up differently from the other grades on their quarterly progress report?

I taught ES grade levels and would have preferred to have a percentage based grading system:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers, please just autofill anything. This is beyond stupid. I have 2 in HS. One has an IEP in gen ed classes and one is in AP classes.

I don’t need a report card to tell me their work habits and don’t even look at the report card or comments anymore with SIS and all of the other communication.

This sounds a lot like elementary school.

+100 Elementary school was too subjective. We don’t need teachers assigning random comments that may or may not even be true.

[Anonymous]

Did anybody’s teacher even make comments?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

You couldn't be more wrong and naive if you tried

An A corresponds to good work habits period.

[Anonymous]

What does “CO” stand for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

If mine is getting Bs or Cs and has poor work habits, I definitely want to know that — so I can help DC learn better study habits before college.

A B or a C inherently means your child doesn’t have good study habits. You don’t need an additional comment to tell you that. Just look at the letter grade for God’s sake.

Not so. In some cases, Bs and Cs could arise from an illness or from an undiagnosed learning disability or from something else. Many things might lead to a B or C.

Illness? Seriously? Once your child makes up the work the grade should go back to baseline. If your baseline is a C, my guess is the work habits aren’t there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does “CO” stand for?

Work Habits CO Consistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits IN Inconsistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits SO Sometimes demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning

...is how they show up to teachers. But CO is great, IN is poor, and SO is moderate, yet they couldn't find a way to put them in that order in our gradebook so I'm guessing a bunch of teachers messed it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does “CO” stand for?

Work Habits CO Consistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits IN Inconsistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits SO Sometimes demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning

...is how they show up to teachers. But CO is great, IN is poor, and SO is moderate, yet they couldn't find a way to put them in that order in our gradebook so I'm guessing a bunch of teachers messed it up.

Wait, so IN is the worst? I assumed it was the middle. My boys have all As and all COs or INs, no SOs.

Do these show up on college transcripts? I assume and hope no.

[Anonymous]

We questioned the difference between IN and SO at my school, and no administrator knew the answer. We were all kind of flying blind here considering we were told about this less than a week before our grades were due.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does “CO” stand for?

Work Habits CO Consistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits IN Inconsistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits SO Sometimes demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning

...is how they show up to teachers. But CO is great, IN is poor, and SO is moderate, yet they couldn't find a way to put them in that order in our gradebook so I'm guessing a bunch of teachers messed it up.

Wait, so IN is the worst? I assumed it was the middle. My boys have all As and all COs or INs, no SOs.

Do these show up on college transcripts? I assume and hope no.

They won't show up on transcripts.

Your kids' teacher may have assumed the same as you. Assume anything other than CO means they talk too much or don't use class time efficiently. Beyond that it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anybody’s teacher even make comments?

One teacher made a generic comment; it was the same language teacher with the same generic comment that they made last year. Nothing new. We actually laughed at it.

The effort scores were all CO except for PE, that was an SO. We jokingly told our kid that they need to up their game in PE.