Assisted living vs in home care

[Anonymous]

Assisted living is WAY cheaper unless someone is being exploited. I know someone doing essentially memory care at home, nearly 24/7 aides. It’s a huge amount of work just to manage everyone, and with a reasonable wage and overtime, the cost is astronomical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here trying to decide between Independent Living and very few hours of home care. Their home is paid off so it seems much more affordable if they just need few hours of care. Basically things that I do when I'm over there, but on a schedule.

Are there not home carers that have, say 2-3 places to go on a given day and don't expect all their salary from one client? Surely agencies schedule that up the same way they would house cleaning services and the like?

Yeah, but probably 2 places a day. There’s going to be a minimum stretch of hours to make it worth the travel etc.

[Anonymous]

If you try assisted living and he has memory issues, they will force you into a higher level of care.

My grandmas assisted living is so cheap- $2100 in another state (still big city though). There are so many more social opportunities versus in home care where you’re by yourself all day.

[Anonymous]

Yes, there are costs beyond the room or apartment. I suggest calling around to get a sense of those additional costs that ALs like to keep hidden until you are there in person.

There is a cost for giving toileting reminders

For showers and the number per week

For medicines based on how many given

For prescriptions, which is laid to a different company.
And so in.

The costs increase every year. CEOs getting rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here trying to decide between Independent Living and very few hours of home care. Their home is paid off so it seems much more affordable if they just need few hours of care. Basically things that I do when I'm over there, but on a schedule.

Are there not home carers that have, say 2-3 places to go on a given day and don't expect all their salary from one client? Surely agencies schedule that up the same way they would house cleaning services and the like?

I would suggest independent living at a place that has continued care. It's social and it's much easier to move them at this stage, than later on. Most people do not want a few hours of work a day. They aren't paid for commuting between jobs and you get more down time when you are at the same place each day. They are paid terribly. You cannot expect the person to be on, do a bunch of tasks for a few hours, drive to another place and be working the whole time and then move on again for a wage that isn't livable.

Re: housecleaning services. A lot of those women are taken advantage of exploited and they do in their bodies working that hard all day and inhaling toxic chemicals.

Do you want to exploit someone? If you want the person to stay you need to be think of them as human beings, not work-horses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here trying to decide between Independent Living and very few hours of home care. Their home is paid off so it seems much more affordable if they just need few hours of care. Basically things that I do when I'm over there, but on a schedule.

Are there not home carers that have, say 2-3 places to go on a given day and don't expect all their salary from one client? Surely agencies schedule that up the same way they would house cleaning services and the like?

I would suggest independent living at a place that has continued care. It's social and it's much easier to move them at this stage, than later on. Most people do not want a few hours of work a day. They aren't paid for commuting between jobs and you get more down time when you are at the same place each day. They are paid terribly. You cannot expect the person to be on, do a bunch of tasks for a few hours, drive to another place and be working the whole time and then move on again for a wage that isn't livable.

Re: housecleaning services. A lot of those women are taken advantage of exploited and they do in their bodies working that hard all day and inhaling toxic chemicals.

Do you want to exploit someone? If you want the person to stay you need to be think of them as human beings, not work-horses.

Thank you for your answer. I don't want to exploit anyone and I'm happy to pay a competitive rate for a few hours. But as someone said upthread-- it's the CEOs that are exploiting, and making 2nd yacht money. We are not part of that.

[Anonymous]

Home care is better for everyone if parent can live separately and have hired caregivers. Not always realistic but it’s the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Home care is better for everyone if parent can live separately and have hired caregivers. Not always realistic but it’s the best.

That was not our experience. The initial move to residential was dramatic and took adjustment, but after the adjustment parent was much happier among peers enjoying social activities.Aging at home is so isolating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Assisted living is WAY cheaper unless someone is being exploited. I know someone doing essentially memory care at home, nearly 24/7 aides. It’s a huge amount of work just to manage everyone, and with a reasonable wage and overtime, the cost is astronomical.

Yes, it’s like having run a nursing home full-timeout out of their house without access to actual nurses or doctors. And double/triple the cost compared to facilities. Not worth it once they need a lot of care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Home care is better for everyone if parent can live separately and have hired caregivers. Not always realistic but it’s the best.

But eventually the parent will need full time hands on care …if they make it that far.

[Anonymous]

I don't agree Home Care is best. My parents enjoyed more social interaction. Just the act of walking down the hall for meals, in one day they would have more social interaction than they would have in a week staying in their own home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree Home Care is best. My parents enjoyed more social interaction. Just the act of walking down the hall for meals, in one day they would have more social interaction than they would have in a week staying in their own home.

THIS!! Eating meals with others who aren't paid or related to you is good for well-being and it gives your mind exercise having to use those social skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Home care is better for everyone if parent can live separately and have hired caregivers. Not always realistic but it’s the best.

No it is not. A facility where the parent gets more interactions is typically a better experience

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assisted living is WAY cheaper unless someone is being exploited. I know someone doing essentially memory care at home, nearly 24/7 aides. It’s a huge amount of work just to manage everyone, and with a reasonable wage and overtime, the cost is astronomical.

Yes, it’s like having run a nursing home full-timeout out of their house without access to actual nurses or doctors. And double/triple the cost compared to facilities. Not worth it once they need a lot of care.

Yes, in a facility if someone doesn't show up, they call in someone else and/or a supervisor helps out. On your own, that person will by you or a family member taking day off work to be the caregiver and/or call around for one (good luck with that).

I've only dealt with getting care for 2-4 weeks for a family member (two times) and it was constant dealing with--someone didnt' show up. And these were the best ranked places in that area. If someone decides not to work that day, you are screwed--they cannot have someone cover two people when you are in different places

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you try assisted living and he has memory issues, they will force you into a higher level of care.

My grandmas assisted living is so cheap- $2100 in another state (still big city though). There are so many more social opportunities versus in home care where you’re by yourself all day.

She must’ve had a huge by in.