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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you say that math instruction is that bad in DCPS. Based on what? A weak curriculum or something?

Are you for real? Have you looked at the math scores at all for majority of DCPS elementary schools?

I won’t even go into how awful it is for majority if middle and high schools, many if which has like 90% plus below grade level. Single percentages on grade level.

The schools with greater UMC populations do much better, as always. It’s not about the instruction at our kid’s school, which we think is great. And once you get to a decent middle, they will accelerate.

LOL! You are so naive and obviously have a younger kid. Get back to us in a few years.

The acceleration at middle schools EOTP is actually not advance and just standard. The kids do so poorly that to them advance is in name only.

I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Some EOTP middle schools do offer math acceleration, which I define as Algebra I and Geometry being available before 9th grade and kids scoring at least a 3 on CAPE. They're not just teaching Eureka Math 8th Grade content and calling it accelerated.

Let's try to support our statements with data. You might like to review the OSSE Middle School Advanced Math CAPE spreadsheet. https://app.box.com/s/y0vrq1g8u6p98pd12qdk6g007r8q366p There, one can see that EOTP schools had kids at the Approaching/Meeting/Exceeding level for Algebra I in middle school. This includes Wells, CHML, Hart, Johnson, Stuart-Hobson, McKinley Middle, DC Prep schools, Two Rivers, and others. The Geometry data is harder to research because of the small numbers being suppressed, but it's clear that it's offered at several schools. And as it's a new thing for some schools, it may increase in the future.

You can ignore all data above because approaching and a 3 is NOT grade level.

It is so exhausting the low standards in this town.

4 is the floor and grade level. Now tell me how many 5 kids and we are talking..

Well, in our system since Geometry is officially 10th grade math, I believe an 8th grader taking it would be considered above grade level even if they only scored a 3 on the CAPE. Grade level would be a 4 on the 8th Grade Math CAPE.

But anyway, you can see the data at the link I posted above. I'm honestly not sure I'm reading it correctly, and it's hard to say precisely how many kids score a 5 because the smaller numbers are suppressed and many schools just aren't big enough to have numbers over 10 or the data is suppressed according to the rules. But I can see that at Wells middle school, 60 percent of the kids taking Algebra I scored a 4, and 8 percent scored a 5. At MacFarland, 74 percent of Algebra I test-takers scored a 4 and 12 percent scored a 5. At Stuart-Hobson, 59 percent scored a 4 and 10.7 percent scored a 5. So that is some examples of EOTP middle schools with kids passing the CAPE above their grade level.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to disparage EOTP middle schools and their students with such a broad brush.

The numbers are suppressed because so few kids, if any are scoring a 5. It is not that DCPS middle schools are small. We are talking about DCPS and you are in total denial if you think the middle schools EOTP are not doing terrible in math.

But you do you and send your kid to whatever school.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you say that math instruction is that bad in DCPS. Based on what? A weak curriculum or something?

Are you for real? Have you looked at the math scores at all for majority of DCPS elementary schools?

I won’t even go into how awful it is for majority if middle and high schools, many if which has like 90% plus below grade level. Single percentages on grade level.

The schools with greater UMC populations do much better, as always. It’s not about the instruction at our kid’s school, which we think is great. And once you get to a decent middle, they will accelerate.

LOL! You are so naive and obviously have a younger kid. Get back to us in a few years.

The acceleration at middle schools EOTP is actually not advance and just standard. The kids do so poorly that to them advance is in name only.

I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Some EOTP middle schools do offer math acceleration, which I define as Algebra I and Geometry being available before 9th grade and kids scoring at least a 3 on CAPE. They're not just teaching Eureka Math 8th Grade content and calling it accelerated.

Let's try to support our statements with data. You might like to review the OSSE Middle School Advanced Math CAPE spreadsheet. https://app.box.com/s/y0vrq1g8u6p98pd12qdk6g007r8q366p There, one can see that EOTP schools had kids at the Approaching/Meeting/Exceeding level for Algebra I in middle school. This includes Wells, CHML, Hart, Johnson, Stuart-Hobson, McKinley Middle, DC Prep schools, Two Rivers, and others. The Geometry data is harder to research because of the small numbers being suppressed, but it's clear that it's offered at several schools. And as it's a new thing for some schools, it may increase in the future.

You can ignore all data above because approaching and a 3 is NOT grade level.

It is so exhausting the low standards in this town.

4 is the floor and grade level. Now tell me how many 5 kids and we are talking..

Well, in our system since Geometry is officially 10th grade math, I believe an 8th grader taking it would be considered above grade level even if they only scored a 3 on the CAPE. Grade level would be a 4 on the 8th Grade Math CAPE.

But anyway, you can see the data at the link I posted above. I'm honestly not sure I'm reading it correctly, and it's hard to say precisely how many kids score a 5 because the smaller numbers are suppressed and many schools just aren't big enough to have numbers over 10 or the data is suppressed according to the rules. But I can see that at Wells middle school, 60 percent of the kids taking Algebra I scored a 4, and 8 percent scored a 5. At MacFarland, 74 percent of Algebra I test-takers scored a 4 and 12 percent scored a 5. At Stuart-Hobson, 59 percent scored a 4 and 10.7 percent scored a 5. So that is some examples of EOTP middle schools with kids passing the CAPE above their grade level.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to disparage EOTP middle schools and their students with such a broad brush.

The numbers are suppressed because so few kids, if any are scoring a 5. It is not that DCPS middle schools are small. We are talking about DCPS and you are in total denial if you think the middle schools EOTP are not doing terrible in math.

But you do you and send your kid to whatever school.

No. Some of the cells say n less than 10. Some of the cells say "DS" which means Data Suppressed, and that's when there's 10 or more but the data needs to be held back for some other reason. Which you would know if you looked at the spreadsheet and the definitions.

I do think that overall DCPS schools EOTP aren't doing well in math. But I'm trying to respond to your specific allegation that EOTP middle schools call grade level math accelerated. It's simply untrue, as the spreadsheet shows.