College of the Holy Cross?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

The point is, going to BC is no more like going to school in Boston than going to Solano CC is like going to school in SF

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

Being able to take an Amtrak train from Worcester to Boston isn’t some huge benefit. Maybe you do that once a month, tops. It’s like saying Brown has a train stop, what’s your point?

It’s exactly like saying Providence is part of Boston. It’s not. Nor is Hartford. Yes, you can get to Boston in an hour and have a nice Saturday. But Worcester being the second largest city of New England means lots of internship opportunities there. Worcester county has a lot of older towns and countryside, so you can also go pumpkin picking or fall foliage sighting in the fall — just 15 minutes from Worcester.

Worcester looks like Dresden in 1945, it sucks for a young person. There are not many desirable internship opportunities there. Please don’t lie about this. It’s a depressed rust belt town.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My niece was lured to HC by a full ride and the promise of a 3-2 program where she could transfer to a top engineering program after three years. I tried to talk her out of it as she had better options for engineering school, but she was stubborn and really thought she wanted a small, catholic school experience. The 3-2 program turned out to be a bait-and-switch; very few students actually transfered to the engineering school and there were like 50 of them competing for 2-3 spots. I don't know why anyone would take this over a four-year, guaranteed enginering program.

She transfered out after one year. HC was VERY small, little to no diversity, little to no opportunities for clubs, ativities, etc. Plus Wooster is a miserable town. She ended up at a much larger, highly-ranked state school and is so happy there. Totally different experience for sure which goes to show that kids don't always know what they want at 18.

This has nothing to do with Holy Cross. Nobody should plan on a 3-2 engineering program. If you go to school in Worcester, just a few minutes from downtown, diversity is not a legit complaint. Anyhow, free ride poster, you sound…ungrateful for the free ride.

HC is 66% white. That’s who a student goes to class with every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

The point is, going to BC is no more like going to school in Boston than going to Solano CC is like going to school in SF

Meant Holy Cross

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

The point is, going to BC is no more like going to school in Boston than going to Solano CC is like going to school in SF

Meant Holy Cross

BC works too. It’s not really in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:Better academically than Boston college or Villanova, historically

“Historically” being the key word. HC has not kept up its old reputation. But if kid is looking for a good small school in Boston, then sure.

Depends on how you define “in” Boston. But I don’t count Worcester as in Boston.

Worcester is the second largest city in all of New England folks.

yeah, but it is an hour from Boston

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

The point is, going to BC is no more like going to school in Boston than going to Solano CC is like going to school in SF

I don't know about San Francisco but it is VERY easy to get from BC into Boston. It is on the Green Line and there are buses - and it is very close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When we visited Holy Cross it seemed very vanilla, like there was absolutely nothing distinctive or interesting about them. Their admissions presentation could have been interchanged with 1,000 other schools, and they made great pains to make it clear they weren’t really catholic. The whole thing was totally uninspiring.

Villanova felt like the only of these three schools really willing to acknowledge and lean into their catholic values in their educational approach.

We are not Catholic but kid wanted a values based education (in the sense that education is about preparing to serve your community). Holy Cross did not seem to offer that at all or at least far less than even many of the public schools we visited.

Interesting. This was our experience, too, although I thought we just got stuck with the "wrong" tour guide -- wrong for us, I mean, since we were interested in hearing about the Catholic experience on campus and our tour guide was an atheist. It's still on our list, though; I think 'Nova's going to be even more slammed this year with the Pope-effect.

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Anonymous wrote:Better academically than Boston college or Villanova, historically

“Historically” being the key word. HC has not kept up its old reputation. But if kid is looking for a good small school in Boston, then sure.

Depends on how you define “in” Boston. But I don’t count Worcester as in Boston.

Worcester is the second largest city in all of New England folks.

yeah, but it is an hour from Boston

I think that’s the point, isn’t it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

The point is, going to BC is no more like going to school in Boston than going to Solano CC is like going to school in SF

Meant Holy Cross

BC works too. It’s not really in the city.

PP: I chuckled at this because I’ve thought this as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just the one pp who barges in on any Boston area college thread to school every one on Boston city limits? So we can only talk about BU and NEU? We all know the group of colleges others are referring to without pulling out the zip code map.
BTW, HC has a T stop which is nice.

The point is, going to BC is no more like going to school in Boston than going to Solano CC is like going to school in SF

I don't know about San Francisco but it is VERY easy to get from BC into Boston. It is on the Green Line and there are buses - and it is very close.

It takes awhile and the Campus has a lot of concrete and asphalt for the suburbs. It’s like saying a CUNY in Canarsie is in NYC. It’s only technically true (and two of BC’s campuses aren’t even within the city limits). BC runs on a franchise model with a campus in Newton and Brighton

[Anonymous]

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Villanova felt like the only of these three schools really willing to acknowledge and lean into their catholic values in their educational approach.

When we visited Villanova, the feeling I got was "we want rich kids" - which may or may not be a Catholic value.

The presentation was in their gleaming new basketball arena, then you walk through the campus which has a ton of construction in progress, then we talked to one of the Fathers who emphasized how expensive the school was...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And just to help out posters: Boston area schools are BC, Tufts, Brandeis, Wellesley, Bentley, Babson, Olin, Northeastern, BU, Harvard, MiT.

Worcester has WPI, Holy Cross, Clark, Assumption, and UMass Med…

All this is true but Worcester is still awful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Villanova felt like the only of these three schools really willing to acknowledge and lean into their catholic values in their educational approach.

When we visited Villanova, the feeling I got was "we want rich kids" - which may or may not be a Catholic value.

The presentation was in their gleaming new basketball arena, then you walk through the campus which has a ton of construction in progress, then we talked to one of the Fathers who emphasized how expensive the school was...

That’s not a Catholic value at all but is definitely a value of some Catholic schools. Jesus himself wasn’t a fan of rich people, something about a camel and the eye of a needle if I’m remembering right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When we visited Holy Cross it seemed very vanilla, like there was absolutely nothing distinctive or interesting about them. Their admissions presentation could have been interchanged with 1,000 other schools, and they made great pains to make it clear they weren’t really catholic. The whole thing was totally uninspiring.

Villanova felt like the only of these three schools really willing to acknowledge and lean into their catholic values in their educational approach.

We are not Catholic but kid wanted a values based education (in the sense that education is about preparing to serve your community). Holy Cross did not seem to offer that at all or at least far less than even many of the public schools we visited.

Interesting. We visited both too and Holy Cross focused on the Jesuit mission much more IMO. Have you read the recent statements by the new HC President? Maybe you had a bad tour guide. Definitely happens.

Both are great schools and as much as people like to distinguish, BC Villanova and HC are very similar and cater to same cohort.