Williams/Amherst over a HYP.

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Just read an article the other day about Harvard, Yale, and MIT losing their prospective students to Amherst College.

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I would stay out of it. Offer to take him to him to another visit if he wants?

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Any of these options are great. Let him do what he wants. I don’t agree with the fact that ED not helpful at Williams and Amherst. I know people say that but it’s not true at our school, esp when lots of students interested

[Anonymous]

NARP?

[Anonymous]

Williams head of admission specifically said that there is no difference in acceptance rate for unhooked candidates between Ed and rd at the info session we attended last summer. Of course, not much of an advantage to apply early at Princeton either but it isn’t binding.

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Anonymous wrote:Your counselor is right. Follow the advice and you'll get into all 3, and can then compare and contrast.

Binding ED is for the desperate with lower stats.

My 36 ACT 4.96W DD applied early to a WASP because 15 other kids were applying, and it was her first choice. The college normally accepts 0-1 student per year, and, with a good number of other high stats kids applying, she felt she needed to maximize her chances. Sure enough, she was the only one out of the 15 who was admitted. She was certain it was her #1 though, didn't like most of the Ivy(+) schools she visited nearly as much. ED can be good strategy, but only for kids who have a clear first choice. It's important not to have regrets, either way.

At our private, this is the way. If you know there will be a stampede in RD, try for ED. For WASP, they will take 1-3 in most years from our school. 10-20 apply. I understand that, by the numbers, ED is not more helpful for the unhooked. From the college side, they'll still take the same number of kids. From the student side, they're not taking the same kids. So if you have a kid with top GPA and great but not extraordinary ECs (or vice versa) and the RD herd from your HS has kids with top both sides, get in front of that.

I dont think HYP are the same. They'll each take 0 or they'll take 6 from our high school. They really dont care. They pick whom they like.

WASP from our HS also has top kids who do SCEA to HYP, get deferred and then spray the top 20 and college a lot of them. They can only go for one. I *think* WASP knows this and like the ED kids from top privates who they know they won't lose to HYP in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NARP?

NARP, non-athlete regular person, is a derogatory term used by athletes to refer to non-athletes at prestigious NE LACs such as Middlebury and Amherst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people must be joking. Good lord.

They aren't. The strategy games kids have to play, whether they have a perfect resume of a flawed one, is truly terrible. If you miss on ED, you may fall very far from your mark.

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Anonymous wrote:NARP?

NARP, non-athlete regular person, is a derogatory term used by athletes to refer to non-athletes at prestigious NE LACs such as Middlebury and Amherst.

That's terrible. Why are these athletes derogatory of people who are not playing college sports?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NARP?

NARP, non-athlete regular person, is a derogatory term used by athletes to refer to non-athletes at prestigious NE LACs such as Middlebury and Amherst.

That's terrible. Why are these athletes derogatory of people who are not playing college sports?

My kid refers to himself as a narp, considers it factual not derogatory.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High school counselor encouraging a SCEA to HYP. Mostly P

Kid is leaning ED Williams or Amherst. But not decided.

I worry those two schools are awfully small for a non-athlete boy, but otherwise don’t care. I do care about FA, but NPC work for all

In the next two weeks, do I try to fit in another visit to Williams or Amherst? Or HYP? We’ve been to all these in last couple of years. It’s possible he thinks he doesn’t have a chance at HYP, which he does. But obviously long shot for all. And so are Williams and Amherst.

Or do I just let it play out without stepping in at all. Seems like a big decision, esp the ED.

Yes -- do another visit, and see if he can stay over with a student (maybe a recent grad from his school?) and sit in on classes/ club meetings etc.

My kid thought really wanted to go to Amherst. Didn't ED but was accepted RD. At the accepted student event, kid decided they didn't like the vibe, esp. with all the student athletes.

I was really surprised that kid ended up picking someplace else, and was glad we didn't ED (as we'd heard that ED doesn't help for unhooked applicants at Amherst).

The above highlighted comment posted by another is repeated ad nauseum on every college forum website.

LACs are small schools and some, such as Williams & Amherst, are composed of a very significant percentage of male athletes who tend to bond & socialize with their teammates. Making a small school smaller is fine for lax bros, but not so nice for NARPS (non-athlete regular person as they are referred to at Middlebury & other elite NE LACs).

The gender ratios at top SLACs are better balanced than at most top schools and non-athletes have no trouble finding their people.

Then the NARPS should stop publicizing their complaints on internet forums and fall in line with the official college position.

There are always some kids who don't enjoy their experience. But, the few (and in particular the kid from Colby yearning for a purely intellectual environment free of jock and alcohol) are not the norm. Don't try to normalize what isn't normal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NARP?

NARP, non-athlete regular person, is a derogatory term used by athletes to refer to non-athletes at prestigious NE LACs such as Middlebury and Amherst.

That's terrible. Why are these athletes derogatory of people who are not playing college sports?

My kid refers to himself as a narp, considers it factual not derogatory.

Agreed, one of my kids best friends (frosh roommate) refers to herself as a NARP. It's just a term for a different group of kids.