First days of school

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


Building on this since I can't edit the original post, it was also great because as a highly data driven teacher, it calculates how long each student is out of the classroom so I can collect that data and use it when communicating with parents to justify a student's performance. "Yes Mrs. Jones I understand you are upset with your child having a D in my class but the data indicates they have spent the equivalent of 3 whole class periods in the hallway and bathroom this marking period."


Why can't that same data be captured on a sign in sign out sheet/clipboard in the classroom?


And who would analyze that handwritten data, enter it into a system and keep it updated daily? Are you volunteering?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


But what about kid #16 who really needs to go … like now.

They’re SOL. These policies are absurd. You can’t go during the first 10 minutes or last 10 minutes of any class; you can’t go if too many other people already have passes; you can’t go in a bathroom if there’s already a certain number of people in it (even in between classes, so that’s not necessarily an option); the electronic pass is only good for 10 minutes, even if you’re coming from a portable, so even if you’re carrying a traditional pass, if the electronic one expires before you get back to class, you’re in trouble; you can’t go to the bathroom during classroom instruction more than 4 times per quarter (or was it semester?). I was in the health room at the beginning of lunch and there was a steady stream of kids asking the nurse if they could use the health room’s bathroom. They’re allowed to, but even during lunch, they had to sign in in multiple places and only one person can use it at a time.

On top of all this, at one of my kids’ schools, if you’re late to class, you can’t enter the classroom until 20 minutes into class. Kids who are still out in the halls when a period starts will all be shepherded into a waiting area (I can’t remember if it was the cafeteria or gym or auditorium), where they will have to wait until they all can enter their classrooms en masse 20 minutes late. The purpose is to minimize disruptions, but it also maximizes missed instructional time. My dc has to go back and forth between the third floor of the main building and the portables multiple times per day.

Hopefully the enforcement of these policies will become lax very quickly.


At WJ, the school is so large and overcrowded, kids absolutely cannot get through a bathroom in the 5 minute passing period.

So if my daughter has to use bathroom and is three minutes late, are you saying she now has to wait 20 minutes to enter class? What if there is an exam?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


You understand that Larlx's bladder doesn't simply lock just because 15 other students have a pass. This is the F ing answer by the school district? Pediatricians be prepared for another shitty year.


I’ve had to take both my high schoolers to ped for dehydration-induced dizziness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


But what about kid #16 who really needs to go … like now.


Like they told us in the military PPPPPP

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

In this case fairly literally.


That’s such BS! I have a condition where I can’t always predict when I will need a bathroom even with plenty of prior planning. What about kids with IBD or IBS? Or a kid who just ate something that didn’t agree with them or suddenly becomes nauseated. My son with GI issues has graduated MCPS but I was assured that a student would not be denied access to a bathroom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


But what about kid #16 who really needs to go … like now.

They’re SOL. These policies are absurd. You can’t go during the first 10 minutes or last 10 minutes of any class; you can’t go if too many other people already have passes; you can’t go in a bathroom if there’s already a certain number of people in it (even in between classes, so that’s not necessarily an option); the electronic pass is only good for 10 minutes, even if you’re coming from a portable, so even if you’re carrying a traditional pass, if the electronic one expires before you get back to class, you’re in trouble; you can’t go to the bathroom during classroom instruction more than 4 times per quarter (or was it semester?). I was in the health room at the beginning of lunch and there was a steady stream of kids asking the nurse if they could use the health room’s bathroom. They’re allowed to, but even during lunch, they had to sign in in multiple places and only one person can use it at a time.

On top of all this, at one of my kids’ schools, if you’re late to class, you can’t enter the classroom until 20 minutes into class. Kids who are still out in the halls when a period starts will all be shepherded into a waiting area (I can’t remember if it was the cafeteria or gym or auditorium), where they will have to wait until they all can enter their classrooms en masse 20 minutes late. The purpose is to minimize disruptions, but it also maximizes missed instructional time. My dc has to go back and forth between the third floor of the main building and the portables multiple times per day.

Hopefully the enforcement of these policies will become lax very quickly.


At WJ, the school is so large and overcrowded, kids absolutely cannot get through a bathroom in the 5 minute passing period.

So if my daughter has to use bathroom and is three minutes late, are you saying she now has to wait 20 minutes to enter class? What if there is an exam?

The 20 minute thing is only a policy at one of my kids’ schools. Hopefully, it’s an aberration. If I had a test I wasn’t prepared for, I would definitely make sure I was late to class that day.
Anonymous
If kids are being denied access to the bathroom, parents need to mobilize to change the policy. I understand if admin have had issues with vaping and disruptive behaviors on the halls, but you can’t deny access to bathrooms to kids who need them. It’s not fair to punish kids who follow the rules because of the actions of a minority. My healthy son told me last year sometimes he has to wander just to find an unlocked bathroom. Fortunately, he hasn’t had a bathroom emergency. MCPS needs to find a solution that respects the needs and rights of all students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


Building on this since I can't edit the original post, it was also great because as a highly data driven teacher, it calculates how long each student is out of the classroom so I can collect that data and use it when communicating with parents to justify a student's performance. "Yes Mrs. Jones I understand you are upset with your child having a D in my class but the data indicates they have spent the equivalent of 3 whole class periods in the hallway and bathroom this marking period."


Why can't that same data be captured on a sign in sign out sheet/clipboard in the classroom?


And who would analyze that handwritten data, enter it into a system and keep it updated daily? Are you volunteering?


There could be many volunteers if it means students don't have to plan their pee and poop breaks
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If kids are being denied access to the bathroom, parents need to mobilize to change the policy. I understand if admin have had issues with vaping and disruptive behaviors on the halls, but you can’t deny access to bathrooms to kids who need them. It’s not fair to punish kids who follow the rules because of the actions of a minority. My healthy son told me last year sometimes he has to wander just to find an unlocked bathroom. Fortunately, he hasn’t had a bathroom emergency. MCPS needs to find a solution that respects the needs and rights of all students.


It's a HUMAN RIGHT!!!
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1267263.page
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If kids are being denied access to the bathroom, parents need to mobilize to change the policy. I understand if admin have had issues with vaping and disruptive behaviors on the halls, but you can’t deny access to bathrooms to kids who need them. It’s not fair to punish kids who follow the rules because of the actions of a minority. My healthy son told me last year sometimes he has to wander just to find an unlocked bathroom. Fortunately, he hasn’t had a bathroom emergency. MCPS needs to find a solution that respects the needs and rights of all students.


Which group this time?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


But what about kid #16 who really needs to go … like now.

They’re SOL. These policies are absurd. You can’t go during the first 10 minutes or last 10 minutes of any class; you can’t go if too many other people already have passes; you can’t go in a bathroom if there’s already a certain number of people in it (even in between classes, so that’s not necessarily an option); the electronic pass is only good for 10 minutes, even if you’re coming from a portable, so even if you’re carrying a traditional pass, if the electronic one expires before you get back to class, you’re in trouble; you can’t go to the bathroom during classroom instruction more than 4 times per quarter (or was it semester?). I was in the health room at the beginning of lunch and there was a steady stream of kids asking the nurse if they could use the health room’s bathroom. They’re allowed to, but even during lunch, they had to sign in in multiple places and only one person can use it at a time.

On top of all this, at one of my kids’ schools, if you’re late to class, you can’t enter the classroom until 20 minutes into class. Kids who are still out in the halls when a period starts will all be shepherded into a waiting area (I can’t remember if it was the cafeteria or gym or auditorium), where they will have to wait until they all can enter their classrooms en masse 20 minutes late. The purpose is to minimize disruptions, but it also maximizes missed instructional time. My dc has to go back and forth between the third floor of the main building and the portables multiple times per day.

Hopefully the enforcement of these policies will become lax very quickly.


At WJ, the school is so large and overcrowded, kids absolutely cannot get through a bathroom in the 5 minute passing period.

So if my daughter has to use bathroom and is three minutes late, are you saying she now has to wait 20 minutes to enter class? What if there is an exam?


You'll find that all problems stem.from the fact that the schools are too big. If you have a problem not caused by the size of the school, its caused by the size of the district.

When we moved here i was shocked to see voters haven't made this an issue.
Your school system dictates your property values.
Anonymous
Divide up the county. NW, NE, SW, SE
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My middle schooler came back pretty depressed. Huge classes, teachers who didn’t seem interesting. I hope this was just a first day thing and he finds some educators who make this year a good one.


It is just ridiculous. 35+??!
Anonymous
Yes, 35 students in MS Spanish class.

MS enjoyed meeting the teachers and friends
Anonymous
Last 1st day of school! Mixed feelings about that ofc.

Why is Poolesville High School STILL under construction - it will be 4 years now! No other school would have taken so long.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:E hall pass is amazing from a school perspective as we can now limit how many students are in the hallway building wide. Set the cap at 15 and it locks anyone else from submitting a pass when that number is reached. I used it in a different school system and it was very successful.

The only downside from a teacher's perspective is that you will have to temporarily stop instruction to approve the pass but that's no different than having to stop to write a hand written pass.


Building on this since I can't edit the original post, it was also great because as a highly data driven teacher, it calculates how long each student is out of the classroom so I can collect that data and use it when communicating with parents to justify a student's performance. "Yes Mrs. Jones I understand you are upset with your child having a D in my class but the data indicates they have spent the equivalent of 3 whole class periods in the hallway and bathroom this marking period."


Why can't that same data be captured on a sign in sign out sheet/clipboard in the classroom?


And who would analyze that handwritten data, enter it into a system and keep it updated daily? Are you volunteering?


There could be many volunteers if it means students don't have to plan their pee and poop breaks


Well, start a PTA committee of volunteers and sign yourself up at your school. Report back on how that goes!
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