Everyone likes to complain about health insurance costs but none of that matters if we don’t have providers!

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

This is beyond stupid on many levels, the least of which is that the military requires young officers to work a certain number of years because it *paid for their education.*

Also, you think some sort of minimum work requirement, where the physician has no choice in his or her schedule, is going to *incentivize* more people to become doctors?

Idiocy abounds.

[Anonymous]

Doctors have way too much negotiating power which is why they can make their own schedules etc. The power imbalance is too great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

NP here, but the docs in my family medicine practice are like this. 2 days in 1 office, 1 day in a second. That seems to be it.

It's not like they are also surgeons, so they can't be doing surgery on a 4th day.

I can't see the practice "giving" everyone a full day for charts. But maybe? That still only comes to 4 days.

I called for a physical last week and they gave me a date more than 6 months later.

How do you know the schedule of every doctor in your practice? It seem like maybe you are looking for things to gripe about.
It's your insurance company that is ruining healthcare FWIW.

Because when I call to say I'd like Dr. Jones, the response is "Dr. Jones is in This Office on Mon & Wed, and in Other Office on Tuesday." Then I asked about Dr. Smith and it was a similar response.

Even Dr. Marshall said to me, "I work the most here at 4 days a week."

I don’t blame them. It’s grueling to have to see 30+ patients per day face to face and then deal with calls, emails, referrals , etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

This is beyond stupid on many levels, the least of which is that the military requires young officers to work a certain number of years because it *paid for their education.*

Also, you think some sort of minimum work requirement, where the physician has no choice in his or her schedule, is going to *incentivize* more people to become doctors?

Idiocy abounds.

Something has to give if the number of people going into the profession is restricted and then those same people decide to quit after 5 years.
Maybe they should make the training free in exchange for a work commitment (similar to the military).

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Anonymous wrote:Well, we all are going to die anyway. Why even bother with healthcare?

That's like saying why bother to eat.

It is a bit disappointing to learn how our food has been poisoned for decades.

If we stopped eating, eventually the doctor shortage would become irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

This is beyond stupid on many levels, the least of which is that the military requires young officers to work a certain number of years because it *paid for their education.*

Also, you think some sort of minimum work requirement, where the physician has no choice in his or her schedule, is going to *incentivize* more people to become doctors?

Idiocy abounds.

Something has to give if the number of people going into the profession is restricted and then those same people decide to quit after 5 years.
Maybe they should make the training free in exchange for a work commitment (similar to the military).

Or maybe we ask ourselves why we’re willing to let conditions to be so bad as dictated by insurance companies, that so many doctors want to quit. As a pp noted, it’s not reasonable to spend less than ten minutes with a patient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doctors have way too much negotiating power which is why they can make their own schedules etc. The power imbalance is too great.

You have got to be kidding me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

NP here, but the docs in my family medicine practice are like this. 2 days in 1 office, 1 day in a second. That seems to be it.

It's not like they are also surgeons, so they can't be doing surgery on a 4th day.

I can't see the practice "giving" everyone a full day for charts. But maybe? That still only comes to 4 days.

I called for a physical last week and they gave me a date more than 6 months later.

How do you know the schedule of every doctor in your practice? It seem like maybe you are looking for things to gripe about.
It's your insurance company that is ruining healthcare FWIW.

Because when I call to say I'd like Dr. Jones, the response is "Dr. Jones is in This Office on Mon & Wed, and in Other Office on Tuesday." Then I asked about Dr. Smith and it was a similar response.

Even Dr. Marshall said to me, "I work the most here at 4 days a week."

So you have no idea what Dr jones is doing the other two days but you assume he’s off? I mean you have no clue. The receptionist doesn’t need to tell you his schedule. You’re ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

This is beyond stupid on many levels, the least of which is that the military requires young officers to work a certain number of years because it *paid for their education.*

Also, you think some sort of minimum work requirement, where the physician has no choice in his or her schedule, is going to *incentivize* more people to become doctors?

Idiocy abounds.

Something has to give if the number of people going into the profession is restricted and then those same people decide to quit after 5 years.
Maybe they should make the training free in exchange for a work commitment (similar to the military).

How about start teaching doctors how to heal?

Bring back the Hippocratic Oath:
FIRST DO NO HARM.

[Anonymous]

If measles makes you sick and there is a way to prevent it, not doing that is doing harm you lumpen prole. Same for polio. You ever have a classmate get that and die? Come back in leg braces? I have. No vax.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

This is beyond stupid on many levels, the least of which is that the military requires young officers to work a certain number of years because it *paid for their education.*

Also, you think some sort of minimum work requirement, where the physician has no choice in his or her schedule, is going to *incentivize* more people to become doctors?

Idiocy abounds.

Something has to give if the number of people going into the profession is restricted and then those same people decide to quit after 5 years.
Maybe they should make the training free in exchange for a work commitment (similar to the military).

How about start teaching doctors how to heal?

Bring back the Hippocratic Oath:
FIRST DO NO HARM.

What’s your focus on the Hippocratic oath in particular? There are oaths taken, they are just updated to reflect current more modern beliefs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

This is beyond stupid on many levels, the least of which is that the military requires young officers to work a certain number of years because it *paid for their education.*

Also, you think some sort of minimum work requirement, where the physician has no choice in his or her schedule, is going to *incentivize* more people to become doctors?

Idiocy abounds.

Something has to give if the number of people going into the profession is restricted and then those same people decide to quit after 5 years.
Maybe they should make the training free in exchange for a work commitment (similar to the military).

How about start teaching doctors how to heal?

Bring back the Hippocratic Oath:
FIRST DO NO HARM.

What’s your focus on the Hippocratic oath in particular? There are oaths taken, they are just updated to reflect current more modern beliefs.

What’s the current oath for med school graduates?

[Anonymous]

I have a friend in her early 20’s who desperately wants to be a doctor like her Dad, a well-known MD, but she could not get into med school despite excellent grades and high test scores. She got her MBA instead and is running the business side of her Dad’s practice. She would make a wonderful doctor, but there aren’t enough slots in US med schools. So, we are importing doctors from other countries. Many of them are very difficult to understand and communicate with - especially for older or hard of hearing patients. It just doesn’t seem right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend in her early 20’s who desperately wants to be a doctor like her Dad, a well-known MD, but she could not get into med school despite excellent grades and high test scores. She got her MBA instead and is running the business side of her Dad’s practice. She would make a wonderful doctor, but there aren’t enough slots in US med schools. So, we are importing doctors from other countries. Many of them are very difficult to understand and communicate with - especially for older or hard of hearing patients. It just doesn’t seem right.

The negatives definitely outweigh the positives when allowing foreigners into our educational institutions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

NP here, but the docs in my family medicine practice are like this. 2 days in 1 office, 1 day in a second. That seems to be it.

It's not like they are also surgeons, so they can't be doing surgery on a 4th day.

I can't see the practice "giving" everyone a full day for charts. But maybe? That still only comes to 4 days.

I called for a physical last week and they gave me a date more than 6 months later.

How do you know the schedule of every doctor in your practice? It seem like maybe you are looking for things to gripe about.
It's your insurance company that is ruining healthcare FWIW.

Because when I call to say I'd like Dr. Jones, the response is "Dr. Jones is in This Office on Mon & Wed, and in Other Office on Tuesday." Then I asked about Dr. Smith and it was a similar response.

Even Dr. Marshall said to me, "I work the most here at 4 days a week."

So you have no idea what Dr jones is doing the other two days but you assume he’s off? I mean you have no clue. The receptionist doesn’t need to tell you his schedule. You’re ridiculous.

Just curious - what is your background?