Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

[Anonymous]

Is she at a school slated for rezoning?

Yes, turn her in.

She lives in Maryland or DC? 100% turn her in.

She lives outside of Fairfax County? Turn her in.

She lives inside of Fairfax County, and the high school is not on the rezoning block? Do what you are most comfortable with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Definitely don't turn her in. FCPS needs more enrollment.

No, FCPS does NOT nedd more enrollment, particularly from someone not paying county taxes, the car tax, personal property taxes or Virginia taxes.

Our school is getting rezoned and a new split feeder created, in part because of people not zoned for our school falsifying addresses and lying to attend out high school.

FCPS does not need any more enrollment when these people cheating the system are part of the reason why we are getting rezoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting ethical quandary, OP. I have a friend in PG county who homeschools rather than putting his kids in their local public. Apparently it's that bad where he lives.

So instead of focusing on the parent evildoer, I would focus on the children's welfare. Perhaps it's best for the kids if they stay where they are.

But you can, and should, document all the harassment this person has perpetrated, hopefully with the help of the other victims, and file a formal complaint.

No.

This person is not paying Virginia, county, property or car taxes.

She is causing kids who actually live in the county to get rezoned from her neighborhood schools. Think of those FCPS kids first and foremost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This is more wide spread than I thought. Two random moms told me this year that they live far outside of FcpS but still bring their kids in. There is a lot of fraud. Where do you turn it in?

Your principal

In writing

This residency fraud is contributing to schools such as WSHS getting rezoned.

FCPS nedds to do a county wide residency check before rezoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know why you need two factor authentication for everything now? Because of people like this mom.

You know why you have to show up with an armful of documents to enroll your kid? Because of people like this mom.

It is stealing and it is wrong and we all pay for it through the taxes for the school, through the people who have to manage all this paperwork and authentication of documents.

There’s right and there is wrong. This isn’t a Jean Valjean situation. She’s taking advantage. It disgusts me how many people don’t care. Letting everything go is how you end up with a crap, every man for himself society.

Turn her in OP.

I suspect that many who ars saying mind your own business are also committing residency fraud.

It is pretty wide spread at our high school, and is contributing to it getting rezoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am going against the grain and saying yes this is extreme for low level bullying. It punishes her children who, if FCPS intervenes, will have to leave their schools. Things like this are not for you or I to handle- I do not think good karma comes to you from lashing out for retribution. If she’s caught, she’s caught, but I wouldn’t want the burden of knowing that I engineered it for petty reasons.

Their schools are in Maryland, not FCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS likely will not care. I would still report her. She will find out it is you though, as you will be brought to court to testify.

If I'm being honest, when I taught at a school with lots of out of district students, admin looked more closely at the residency of troublemaking kids. If they were not a problem, people turned the other way. I'm good with that. They're just trying to get a good education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know why you need two factor authentication for everything now? Because of people like this mom.

You know why you have to show up with an armful of documents to enroll your kid? Because of people like this mom.

It is stealing and it is wrong and we all pay for it through the taxes for the school, through the people who have to manage all this paperwork and authentication of documents.

There’s right and there is wrong. This isn’t a Jean Valjean situation. She’s taking advantage. It disgusts me how many people don’t care. Letting everything go is how you end up with a crap, every man for himself society.

Turn her in OP.

I suspect that many who ars saying mind your own business are also committing residency fraud.

It is pretty wide spread at our high school, and is contributing to it getting rezoned.

I agree; residency fraud is likely more widespread than believed.

A couple of years ago, a friend who was renting her house went to register her child for kindergarten and the school secretary asked, "how do you know "the Smiths" because their child goes here and they live at your address." She found out her landlord was using her address to send her children (or maybe grandchildren) to our elementary school. While trick-or-treating one year, an older neighbor a street over told us he only lives in our neighborhood so he can send his grandkids to our school pyramid. We're one of the HS that will likely be rezoned. They need to do residency checks before rezoing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know why you need two factor authentication for everything now? Because of people like this mom.

You know why you have to show up with an armful of documents to enroll your kid? Because of people like this mom.

It is stealing and it is wrong and we all pay for it through the taxes for the school, through the people who have to manage all this paperwork and authentication of documents.

There’s right and there is wrong. This isn’t a Jean Valjean situation. She’s taking advantage. It disgusts me how many people don’t care. Letting everything go is how you end up with a crap, every man for himself society.

Turn her in OP.

I suspect that many who ars saying mind your own business are also committing residency fraud.

It is pretty wide spread at our high school, and is contributing to it getting rezoned.

I agree; residency fraud is likely more widespread than believed.

A couple of years ago, a friend who was renting her house went to register her child for kindergarten and the school secretary asked, "how do you know "the Smiths" because their child goes here and they live at your address." She found out her landlord was using her address to send her children (or maybe grandchildren) to our elementary school. While trick-or-treating one year, an older neighbor a street over told us he only lives in our neighborhood so he can send his grandkids to our school pyramid. We're one of the HS that will likely be rezoned. They need to do residency checks before rezoing.

If the grandchildren live with him, that is okay. Maybe, if he does daycare that is also okay? If not, it's not legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS likely will not care. I would still report her. She will find out it is you though, as you will be brought to court to testify.

If I'm being honest, when I taught at a school with lots of out of district students, admin looked more closely at the residency of troublemaking kids. If they were not a problem, people turned the other way. I'm good with that. They're just trying to get a good education.

Especially if they have an IEP and they are pulling resources from the school.

But this is happening everywhere. The attendance office in FCPS can’t possibly investigate them all and would need 20 more people to make a dent in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS likely will not care. I would still report her. She will find out it is you though, as you will be brought to court to testify.

If I'm being honest, when I taught at a school with lots of out of district students, admin looked more closely at the residency of troublemaking kids. If they were not a problem, people turned the other way. I'm good with that. They're just trying to get a good education.

Especially if they have an IEP and they are pulling resources from the school.

But this is happening everywhere. The attendance office in FCPS can’t possibly investigate them all and would need 20 more people to make a dent in it.

No. It is not that hard to check their documentation if it is red flagged by someone.

Teachers may also suggest that a student might need to be checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Turn her in. Whether or not you like her is irrelevant. I wish people would be more vigilant about this. Classes are hugely overcrowded and it's not Fairfax residents' responsibility to provide education for kids who live out of district unless there's some kind of approved alternate placement. If someone wants their kids to attend FCPS they need to move to Fairfax or pay the tuition.
That said, FCPS won't do anything about it. Reid has made it clear she doesn't care about residency fraud.

I agree she should be turned in for breaking the rules, but I’m not sure how it would help with this. If a school loses 30 students for any reason, they lose a staffing position and a teacher gets destaffed, they don’t just get smaller classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turn her in. Whether or not you like her is irrelevant. I wish people would be more vigilant about this. Classes are hugely overcrowded and it's not Fairfax residents' responsibility to provide education for kids who live out of district unless there's some kind of approved alternate placement. If someone wants their kids to attend FCPS they need to move to Fairfax or pay the tuition.
That said, FCPS won't do anything about it. Reid has made it clear she doesn't care about residency fraud.

I agree she should be turned in for breaking the rules, but I’m not sure how it would help with this. If a school loses 30 students for any reason, they lose a staffing position and a teacher gets destaffed, they don’t just get smaller classes.

I'm not rooting for anyone to loose their jobs. However if FCPS is already over budget and having to cut positions, isn't it better for the teachers to be moved this way rather than them having to cut services?

[Anonymous]

There's a 500 page thread here about rezoning, which FCPS is pursuing in part because some schools are overcrowded. It's probably hard to know this with certainty, but it seems quite likely some of that overcrowding in some places is due to residency fraud.

Absolutely this should be reported. Non-residents taking up space in schools paid for by county residents directly harms FCPS students by contributing to overcrowding.

[Anonymous]

REPORT IT ASAP, IT'S A CRIME don't let anyone talk you out of it!