What would be a decent GPA for a freshman at TJ?

[Anonymous]

Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

[Anonymous]

There’s a big distinction between a high-achieving student who normally gets A's, but gets a single C, Versus. a misplaced student who mostly struggles with C's in basic TJ classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This post is false, insulting, and cruel. My guess is a teenager is trolling this thread. If not a teenage troll, the adult PP appears to have severe mental illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This is true if you don’t have $180k laying around to spend ($45k x 4 year, even as in state, $30k tuition plus $15k room and board).
At GMU $12k per year and you can stay home with parents.
They both will still employed when graduate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This is true if you don’t have $180k laying around to spend ($45k x 4 year, even as in state, $30k tuition plus $15k room and board).
At GMU $12k per year and you can stay home with parents.
They both will still employed when graduate.

UVA has extremely generous financial aid for students from low income families. The catch is that you actually have to be admitted. UVA has a 17% acceptance rate, George Mason has an 89% acceptance rate.

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/rank/c...rate/state/virginia/

Tuition assistance for Virginia households.
UVA will cover the cost of tuition, fees, room, and board for in-state undergraduates with family income of less than $50K.

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UVA provides tuition grants of $2,000 to Virginia families with income less than $150,000.

Manageable loans. UVA is committed to limiting need-based loans for students with financial need, so they graduate with less debt.

https://www.virginia.edu/life/affordinguva/#:...than%20%24150%2C000.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have an incoming freshman (he’s a merit kid from a feeder, not lottery), if he came home with a C on his report card freshman year he would be headed straight back to our base school. I wouldn’t wait for the end of the year. Our family has high educational expectations. C’s might “earn degrees”, but not in this house.

I’m not worried about his grades and expect him to have all As or close to it freshman year. It gets harder each year, so C’s freshman year is a horrible start. As a parent, you should be able to see very early on if your child is thriving or just surviving at the school. If the year starts out with lower grades on the first few tests/quizzes/assignments, that is the time to make adjustments to study habits and extracurricular time commitments (don’t wait until the kids GPA is already ruined).

Funny. This is clearly a troll post, with obvious giveaway clues that make it easy to spot as fake.

DP
Two time TJ parent here and unless the expectations dropped dramatically Cs are no bueno.
You slipped through the cracks or are not academically dedicated enough to handle TJ

If you got straight A's with 1 C and that C was in math, I would consider going back to base. If you got more than 1 C your freshman year, then go back to base, you are not going to get anything out of the TJ experience and you would be a star back at your base school.

B's happen and there is always a population of kids that graduate TJ with a bunch of Bs. But Cs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an incoming freshman (he’s a merit kid from a feeder, not lottery), if he came home with a C on his report card freshman year he would be headed straight back to our base school. I wouldn’t wait for the end of the year. Our family has high educational expectations. C’s might “earn degrees”, but not in this house.

I’m not worried about his grades and expect him to have all As or close to it freshman year. It gets harder each year, so C’s freshman year is a horrible start. As a parent, you should be able to see very early on if your child is thriving or just surviving at the school. If the year starts out with lower grades on the first few tests/quizzes/assignments, that is the time to make adjustments to study habits and extracurricular time commitments (don’t wait until the kids GPA is already ruined).

Funny. This is clearly a troll post, with obvious giveaway clues that make it easy to spot as fake.

Not a troll, I have high standards for education for my children. It would also be super concerning for a child who has scored all As in middle school advanced classes to suddenly have a C on his report card. I know not all parents are as concerned with GPA, but most parents of TJ students are concerned. TJ isn’t an average high school, a C would be a 2.0, students get kicked out of they don’t have a 3.0 GPA, so clearly C’s are not what the school is expecting of the students.

Do you even have a TJ student?

DP. You are correct that families of TJ students are typically very concerned about grades and that incoming freshman have As in middle school. You are incorrect about grades at TJ though. GPAs at TJ are lower than base high schools. All As are unrealistic and even Cs happen.

Don't be that parent.

DP

If your kid is getting Cs (plural),get them the hell out of there. TJ will crush their confidence, let them flourish at base school

[Anonymous]

DC got a bunch of A minus. Is A minus still considered straight A?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an incoming freshman (he’s a merit kid from a feeder, not lottery), if he came home with a C on his report card freshman year he would be headed straight back to our base school. I wouldn’t wait for the end of the year. Our family has high educational expectations. C’s might “earn degrees”, but not in this house.

I’m not worried about his grades and expect him to have all As or close to it freshman year. It gets harder each year, so C’s freshman year is a horrible start. As a parent, you should be able to see very early on if your child is thriving or just surviving at the school. If the year starts out with lower grades on the first few tests/quizzes/assignments, that is the time to make adjustments to study habits and extracurricular time commitments (don’t wait until the kids GPA is already ruined).

Funny. This is clearly a troll post, with obvious giveaway clues that make it easy to spot as fake.

Not a troll, I have high standards for education for my children. It would also be super concerning for a child who has scored all As in middle school advanced classes to suddenly have a C on his report card. I know not all parents are as concerned with GPA, but most parents of TJ students are concerned. TJ isn’t an average high school, a C would be a 2.0, students get kicked out of they don’t have a 3.0 GPA, so clearly C’s are not what the school is expecting of the students.

Do you even have a TJ student?

Do YOU have a TJ student? Way to drive them to craziness.

My original post stated that I have an incoming freshman. He’s extremely intelligent and I have high expectations. Having a C would mean he wasn’t trying at all in the class. I’m sure he will have to work harder in some classes at TJ, but that’s why he wanted to go. Elementary/middle has been extremely boring and too easy, he needs a challenge.

I don’t know why any parent of an intelligent high achieving child who got into TJ would be ok with C’s when their child could have much higher grades at the base school, thus having better options for colleges.

I have a kid at TJ and a C does NOT mean they are not trying. Especially in math. It might mean they are unprepared for TJ.

Every kid there was bored in elementary and middle school and a lot of them still get C's despite trying their best.

My kid had Cs in the first half of Algebra 2 and I got him some tutoring and he pulled A's the second half and managed to end up with a B but he was definitely heading for a C and not for a lack of trying. A lot of kids are getting Cs in that class.

The woke crowd is going to burn me for saying this but if you have an incoming freshman, have them watch (with intent) some videos on statistics and algebra 2 or get them tutoring. If they aren't into math and doing math counts and AMC 8/10 in middle school, this stuff is going to be a bit of a leap from what they are used to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an incoming freshman (he’s a merit kid from a feeder, not lottery), if he came home with a C on his report card freshman year he would be headed straight back to our base school. I wouldn’t wait for the end of the year. Our family has high educational expectations. C’s might “earn degrees”, but not in this house.

I’m not worried about his grades and expect him to have all As or close to it freshman year. It gets harder each year, so C’s freshman year is a horrible start. As a parent, you should be able to see very early on if your child is thriving or just surviving at the school. If the year starts out with lower grades on the first few tests/quizzes/assignments, that is the time to make adjustments to study habits and extracurricular time commitments (don’t wait until the kids GPA is already ruined).

Funny. This is clearly a troll post, with obvious giveaway clues that make it easy to spot as fake.

Not a troll, I have high standards for education for my children. It would also be super concerning for a child who has scored all As in middle school advanced classes to suddenly have a C on his report card. I know not all parents are as concerned with GPA, but most parents of TJ students are concerned. TJ isn’t an average high school, a C would be a 2.0, students get kicked out of they don’t have a 3.0 GPA, so clearly C’s are not what the school is expecting of the students.

Do you even have a TJ student?

The math is next level.

If your kid doesn't do AMC 8/10 math counts or anything like that, it's going to take a lot of effort to catch up but it can absolutely be done.

Do YOU have a TJ student? Way to drive them to craziness.

My original post stated that I have an incoming freshman. He’s extremely intelligent and I have high expectations. Having a C would mean he wasn’t trying at all in the class. I’m sure he will have to work harder in some classes at TJ, but that’s why he wanted to go. Elementary/middle has been extremely boring and too easy, he needs a challenge.

I don’t know why any parent of an intelligent high achieving child who got into TJ would be ok with C’s when their child could have much higher grades at the base school, thus having better options for colleges.

LOL well you'll be hiring a tutor or 2 pretty quickly then. You have no idea how impossible grading is at TJ. I half think that some of the problems my student was asked to solve weren't actually solved by the teacher before assigning it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This was true under Bonitatibus. I have heard that Mukai does not want to go to extraordinary effort to retain kids that are not well prepared for TJ and would rather pick up kids in the froshmore process. This is just hearsay upon hearsay but it is consistent with what I have seen of Mukai.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This post is false, insulting, and cruel. My guess is a teenager is trolling this thread. If not a teenage troll, the adult PP appears to have severe mental illness.

DP.

How is the PP post false insulting and cruel.

Multiple Cs and mostly B's at Tj would likely be straight A's with maybe a b or two at base schools. That will get you into a better school than mostly B's with a few Cs from TJ.
A student with multiple C's will not really be getting the full benefit of TJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an incoming freshman (he’s a merit kid from a feeder, not lottery), if he came home with a C on his report card freshman year he would be headed straight back to our base school. I wouldn’t wait for the end of the year. Our family has high educational expectations. C’s might “earn degrees”, but not in this house.

I’m not worried about his grades and expect him to have all As or close to it freshman year. It gets harder each year, so C’s freshman year is a horrible start. As a parent, you should be able to see very early on if your child is thriving or just surviving at the school. If the year starts out with lower grades on the first few tests/quizzes/assignments, that is the time to make adjustments to study habits and extracurricular time commitments (don’t wait until the kids GPA is already ruined).

Funny. This is clearly a troll post, with obvious giveaway clues that make it easy to spot as fake.

Not a troll, I have high standards for education for my children. It would also be super concerning for a child who has scored all As in middle school advanced classes to suddenly have a C on his report card. I know not all parents are as concerned with GPA, but most parents of TJ students are concerned. TJ isn’t an average high school, a C would be a 2.0, students get kicked out of they don’t have a 3.0 GPA, so clearly C’s are not what the school is expecting of the students.

Do you even have a TJ student?

Do YOU have a TJ student? Way to drive them to craziness.

My original post stated that I have an incoming freshman. He’s extremely intelligent and I have high expectations. Having a C would mean he wasn’t trying at all in the class. I’m sure he will have to work harder in some classes at TJ, but that’s why he wanted to go. Elementary/middle has been extremely boring and too easy, he needs a challenge.

I don’t know why any parent of an intelligent high achieving child who got into TJ would be ok with C’s when their child could have much higher grades at the base school, thus having better options for colleges.

I have a kid at TJ and a C does NOT mean they are not trying. Especially in math. It might mean they are unprepared for TJ.

Every kid there was bored in elementary and middle school and a lot of them still get C's despite trying their best.

My kid had Cs in the first half of Algebra 2 and I got him some tutoring and he pulled A's the second half and managed to end up with a B but he was definitely heading for a C and not for a lack of trying. A lot of kids are getting Cs in that class.

The woke crowd is going to burn me for saying this but if you have an incoming freshman, have them watch (with intent) some videos on statistics and algebra 2 or get them tutoring. If they aren't into math and doing math counts and AMC 8/10 in middle school, this stuff is going to be a bit of a leap from what they are used to.

I was talking about my particular kid. If he gets C’s it is only for lack of doing homework or trying. He already had As in Honors Algebra I, Honors Geometry, and Honors Algebra II with very minimal effort. I wouldn’t expect him to all the sudden have a hard time grasping concepts at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This was true under Bonitatibus. I have heard that Mukai does not want to go to extraordinary effort to retain kids that are not well prepared for TJ and would rather pick up kids in the froshmore process. This is just hearsay upon hearsay but it is consistent with what I have seen of Mukai.

I applaud Mukai, if so.

While the admissions downgrade was social-engineering driven by DEI radicals, such as SB chair Karl Frisch and the prior SB, Bonitatibus was an enthusiastic cheerleader the whole way through.

The damage to the prestige and value of the TJ experience cannot be disputed: there a fewer than half as many merit scholars and test scores are down, while those returning to base has gone way up.

Mukai is simply implementing some damage control in the wake of DEIA-driven admissions changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low grades in Freshman year ( 1-2 C, majority Bs ) are a sign.

Move back to base school.

The counselors main goal is to keep u at TJ - attrition looks bad for them.

They think going to GMU is just as good as going to UVa.

This was true under Bonitatibus. I have heard that Mukai does not want to go to extraordinary effort to retain kids that are not well prepared for TJ and would rather pick up kids in the froshmore process. This is just hearsay upon hearsay but it is consistent with what I have seen of Mukai.

I applaud Mukai, if so.

While the admissions downgrade was social-engineering driven by DEI radicals, such as SB chair Karl Frisch and the prior SB, Bonitatibus was an enthusiastic cheerleader the whole way through.

The damage to the prestige and value of the TJ experience cannot be disputed: there a fewer than half as many merit scholars and test scores are down, while those returning to base has gone way up.

Mukai is simply implementing some damage control in the wake of DEIA-driven admissions changes.

Fwiw, the "half as many merit scholars" isn't a reflection of TJ or the changed admissions. Instead, the prior year had an extra large number. That was the fluke.