FVU aka BRAVE with friends

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no. Sounds like fun but they are not pros. You going to take measurements too creep

Kids (or parents) choose ECNL and MLSN because they want to play at the highest level. These are not eight year olds. If you are going to learn to compete, you need to learn to compete. DC United doesn't choose their Academy from daddy and board ball

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if VYS and BRYC have been working together at all at younger age groups? I understand the ECNL club will always take the best kids available to them, but to me the benefit for kids would be if the top kids from member clubs were able to have some training sessions together, or maybe play in a tournament together as teammates or opponents. FVU is big enough now they could host their own tournament for U11 and U12.

If more kids stay at their home club at U11 and 12 and don’t lose out out ECNL opportunities, then it’s a big benefit for both the kids and the partner clubs. Too many kids move now when they are so young just trying to position themselves to try out for ECNL at U13.

It’s naive to think that way. The fact is, FVU will take the best kid regardless of which club they come from—it doesn’t matter if they’re in the Onion or not. Don’t be surprised if they pick a kid from MYS, LS, ARL, or SYC over someone from your club.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if VYS and BRYC have been working together at all at younger age groups? I understand the ECNL club will always take the best kids available to them, but to me the benefit for kids would be if the top kids from member clubs were able to have some training sessions together, or maybe play in a tournament together as teammates or opponents. FVU is big enough now they could host their own tournament for U11 and U12.

If more kids stay at their home club at U11 and 12 and don’t lose out out ECNL opportunities, then it’s a big benefit for both the kids and the partner clubs. Too many kids move now when they are so young just trying to position themselves to try out for ECNL at U13.

It’s naive to think that way. The fact is, FVU will take the best kid regardless of which club they come from—it doesn’t matter if they’re in the Onion or not. Don’t be surprised if they pick a kid from MYS, LS, ARL, or SYC over someone from your club.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if VYS and BRYC have been working together at all at younger age groups? I understand the ECNL club will always take the best kids available to them, but to me the benefit for kids would be if the top kids from member clubs were able to have some training sessions together, or maybe play in a tournament together as teammates or opponents. FVU is big enough now they could host their own tournament for U11 and U12.

If more kids stay at their home club at U11 and 12 and don’t lose out out ECNL opportunities, then it’s a big benefit for both the kids and the partner clubs. Too many kids move now when they are so young just trying to position themselves to try out for ECNL at U13.

It’s naive to think that way. The fact is, FVU will take the best kid regardless of which club they come from—it doesn’t matter if they’re in the Onion or not. Don’t be surprised if they pick a kid from MYS, LS, ARL, or SYC over someone from your club.

OP here. I agree with you Union and any other team will take the best kids so any partnership does nothing at older age groups. I was just saying that any benefit to all this really starts at the early ages of travel soccer - and ironically ends at U13

[Anonymous]

Two years ago, BRAVE did sessions with U11 and U12 players from Vienna and BRYC throughout the year who were interested in trying out for ECNL. This year, FVU did the same for the member clubs. The sessions were with FVU coaches. Assuming this continues, there is a benefit to players at member clubs (better to be “known” than trying to stand out in a crowded ID session) and FVU (creating relationships with players).

Maybe there’s no hope for the boys side, but at least they’re trying to broaden the player pool. And it’s certainly better than the stickiness of single clubs (ahem Arlington).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no. Sounds like fun but they are not pros. You going to take measurements too creep

Nope just tire of kids who have been on top teams since u8 getting the golden path and kids getting missed or overlooked due to club politics. More an issue at some of those ahem... bigger clubs

I agree that this is an issue. Our club has 4 teams from u9-u11. The kids on the top u11 team have been with the club since they were u8. The training the kids on the top team receive is a ton better than the kids on the bottom team. The top team practices away from everyone else, plays in separate leagues, has big tournament invites, winter training when no one else has training, fitness training and film review...I could go on, but most kid who could be placed on those teams, would be great soccer players too...not so much on the bottom teams. Then, when they add kids to the top team, it's usually from outside the club so they don't make anyone jealous inside the club.

They say they have open tryouts, but the top teams is picked after the 1st 15 minute scrimmage... and that top team is all the current players on the top team.

So, I agree having an opportunity for a club neutral team selection is a good thing. It helps to break out of club politics and stagnant team compositions that are hard to get into from lower teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two years ago, BRAVE did sessions with U11 and U12 players from Vienna and BRYC throughout the year who were interested in trying out for ECNL. This year, FVU did the same for the member clubs. The sessions were with FVU coaches. Assuming this continues, there is a benefit to players at member clubs (better to be “known” than trying to stand out in a crowded ID session) and FVU (creating relationships with players).

Maybe there’s no hope for the boys side, but at least they’re trying to broaden the player pool. And it’s certainly better than the stickiness of single clubs (ahem Arlington).

Can you share a little more about frequency, type of training,etc. The FVU website talks about u12 youth union but no details. With the “30 teams” I’ll be curious if they only invite a few kids from each team. A lot more complexity to coordinate than 2-3 clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:.or an ingenious way to get field access.

this is the way. New gf enters. Exit ex jilted girlfriend who cant stop wont stop making FVU threads.


Let it go Mclean…. Let it go…

It’s probably mostly the FVU families, Maclean is happy to be out.

McLean is looking smarter by the day.

I feel sorry for the FVU kids. They deserve better.

Wouldn’t this technically be giving them better? If done correctly of course. Villarreal joins, the 2010s are good. Gives them the opportunity to play at a higher level. Add in the best 2010 FVU boys and it gives them a better opportunity. The lower level players from that team move down, while upsetting for them it gives them the correct level of competition. Villarreal 2010 second team is decent as well, they now play RL, gives them a better opportunity. This goes back to being done correctly of course but it should give players a better competition level at the appropriate level.

It’s the whole “being done correctly” part that makes it a non-starter.

The Villarreal 2010s have nothing to do with the FVU 2010s. There is nobody from Villarreal interested in the coaching downgrade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two years ago, BRAVE did sessions with U11 and U12 players from Vienna and BRYC throughout the year who were interested in trying out for ECNL. This year, FVU did the same for the member clubs. The sessions were with FVU coaches. Assuming this continues, there is a benefit to players at member clubs (better to be “known” than trying to stand out in a crowded ID session) and FVU (creating relationships with players).

Maybe there’s no hope for the boys side, but at least they’re trying to broaden the player pool. And it’s certainly better than the stickiness of single clubs (ahem Arlington).

FVU tryouts are done by now. I personally would rather be with a single club rather than a “union”. This union could fall apart by end of next year, but the single will remain

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no. Sounds like fun but they are not pros. You going to take measurements too creep

Nope just tire of kids who have been on top teams since u8 getting the golden path and kids getting missed or overlooked due to club politics. More an issue at some of those ahem... bigger clubs

I agree that this is an issue. Our club has 4 teams from u9-u11. The kids on the top u11 team have been with the club since they were u8. The training the kids on the top team receive is a ton better than the kids on the bottom team. The top team practices away from everyone else, plays in separate leagues, has big tournament invites, winter training when no one else has training, fitness training and film review...I could go on, but most kid who could be placed on those teams, would be great soccer players too...not so much on the bottom teams. Then, when they add kids to the top team, it's usually from outside the club so they don't make anyone jealous inside the club.

They say they have open tryouts, but the top teams is picked after the 1st 15 minute scrimmage... and that top team is all the current players on the top team.

So, I agree having an opportunity for a club neutral team selection is a good thing. It helps to break out of club politics and stagnant team compositions that are hard to get into from lower teams.

Hi fellow arlington 2nd team. Doesn't get better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if VYS and BRYC have been working together at all at younger age groups? I understand the ECNL club will always take the best kids available to them, but to me the benefit for kids would be if the top kids from member clubs were able to have some training sessions together, or maybe play in a tournament together as teammates or opponents. FVU is big enough now they could host their own tournament for U11 and U12.

If more kids stay at their home club at U11 and 12 and don’t lose out out ECNL opportunities, then it’s a big benefit for both the kids and the partner clubs. Too many kids move now when they are so young just trying to position themselves to try out for ECNL at U13.

It’s naive to think that way. The fact is, FVU will take the best kid regardless of which club they come from—it doesn’t matter if they’re in the Onion or not. Don’t be surprised if they pick a kid from MYS, LS, ARL, or SYC over someone from your club.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if VYS and BRYC have been working together at all at younger age groups? I understand the ECNL club will always take the best kids available to them, but to me the benefit for kids would be if the top kids from member clubs were able to have some training sessions together, or maybe play in a tournament together as teammates or opponents. FVU is big enough now they could host their own tournament for U11 and U12.

If more kids stay at their home club at U11 and 12 and don’t lose out out ECNL opportunities, then it’s a big benefit for both the kids and the partner clubs. Too many kids move now when they are so young just trying to position themselves to try out for ECNL at U13.

It’s naive to think that way. The fact is, FVU will take the best kid regardless of which club they come from—it doesn’t matter if they’re in the Onion or not. Don’t be surprised if they pick a kid from MYS, LS, ARL, or SYC over someone from your club.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you…

Now you tell me.

I just bought a great plot of swampland in Florida and the little I had left I sent to a Nigerian Prince who needed some cash to free up his funds.

Give me your contact because I'm expecting the Nigerian Prince to send me a big payoff for helping him and once I get my money, I really would love to buy that bridge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two years ago, BRAVE did sessions with U11 and U12 players from Vienna and BRYC throughout the year who were interested in trying out for ECNL. This year, FVU did the same for the member clubs. The sessions were with FVU coaches. Assuming this continues, there is a benefit to players at member clubs (better to be “known” than trying to stand out in a crowded ID session) and FVU (creating relationships with players).

Maybe there’s no hope for the boys side, but at least they’re trying to broaden the player pool. And it’s certainly better than the stickiness of single clubs (ahem Arlington).

FVU tryouts are done by now. I personally would rather be with a single club rather than a “union”. This union could fall apart by end of next year, but the single will remain

It does not matter. Every year you can take your kids to tryouts anywhere. If the kid a baller it will be picked by a club, ECNL, MLSN or other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two years ago, BRAVE did sessions with U11 and U12 players from Vienna and BRYC throughout the year who were interested in trying out for ECNL. This year, FVU did the same for the member clubs. The sessions were with FVU coaches. Assuming this continues, there is a benefit to players at member clubs (better to be “known” than trying to stand out in a crowded ID session) and FVU (creating relationships with players).

Maybe there’s no hope for the boys side, but at least they’re trying to broaden the player pool. And it’s certainly better than the stickiness of single clubs (ahem Arlington).

FVU tryouts are done by now. I personally would rather be with a single club rather than a “union”. This union could fall apart by end of next year, but the single will remain

ITS NOT OVER UNTIL THEY GET THEIR 25 PLAYERS PER TEAM! U13-U18

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Two years ago, BRAVE did sessions with U11 and U12 players from Vienna and BRYC throughout the year who were interested in trying out for ECNL. This year, FVU did the same for the member clubs. The sessions were with FVU coaches. Assuming this continues, there is a benefit to players at member clubs (better to be “known” than trying to stand out in a crowded ID session) and FVU (creating relationships with players).

Maybe there’s no hope for the boys side, but at least they’re trying to broaden the player pool. And it’s certainly better than the stickiness of single clubs (ahem Arlington).

FVU tryouts are done by now. I personally would rather be with a single club rather than a “union”. This union could fall apart by end of next year, but the single will remain

ITS NOT OVER UNTIL THEY GET THEIR 25 PLAYERS PER TEAM! U13-U18

$4,000 per year