The giant immersive screens in classrooms

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Anonymous wrote:This morning my 6 yo asked me if she could "watch" a book that she had "watched" in school. We happened to have the actual book at home, but when I read it, she said the "real" book has sound effects.

Is there any chance of getting rid of these giant screens or at least avoiding having kids regularly watch videos under the guise of "reading"?


I would give up a part of my salary to work in a school with projectors and no chromebooks as long as I didn't have a limit on the amount of copies I made. Sorry to the younger teachers but I actually got good results with spelling and reading when I used those 'evil' packets. Not saying that all schooling should be old fashioned, but there's something to be said for the muscle/mind connection. But when the county started limiting our paper, we were forced to switch to screens.


In other words MCPS used the money that could have been used for paper to buy expensive screens that harm children. Stinks of corruption.


Corruption, no. Bad choice? Yes hindsight is 20/20. Many parents who complain about the screens in schools hand their children iPhones the minute they’re bored. Attention spans are at an all time low, so some teachers feel like they can’t keep the children’s attention like they used to.

The whole educational system and parenting practices can use an overhaul (but no, not in the way Trmp is doing it).


I knew someone would come here and blame the parents for MCPS's poor choices.

Teachers use screens because they are there. Take them out of the classroom.


The responsibility is shared, you'd be surprised how much the kids complain when they have to write on paper vs online. If they don't come in already addicted to screens it'd be easier to not use them


Omg do you hear yourself? Kids don't come in to kindergarten used to typing on computers lol that's a habit taught in school. MCPS doesn't even bother teach handwriting.


But most kids come to school having been on iPads since they were 2 years old.
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Anonymous wrote:This morning my 6 yo asked me if she could "watch" a book that she had "watched" in school. We happened to have the actual book at home, but when I read it, she said the "real" book has sound effects.

Is there any chance of getting rid of these giant screens or at least avoiding having kids regularly watch videos under the guise of "reading"?


I would give up a part of my salary to work in a school with projectors and no chromebooks as long as I didn't have a limit on the amount of copies I made. Sorry to the younger teachers but I actually got good results with spelling and reading when I used those 'evil' packets. Not saying that all schooling should be old fashioned, but there's something to be said for the muscle/mind connection. But when the county started limiting our paper, we were forced to switch to screens.


In other words MCPS used the money that could have been used for paper to buy expensive screens that harm children. Stinks of corruption.


Corruption, no. Bad choice? Yes hindsight is 20/20. Many parents who complain about the screens in schools hand their children iPhones the minute they’re bored. Attention spans are at an all time low, so some teachers feel like they can’t keep the children’s attention like they used to.

The whole educational system and parenting practices can use an overhaul (but no, not in the way Trmp is doing it).


I knew someone would come here and blame the parents for MCPS's poor choices.

Teachers use screens because they are there. Take them out of the classroom.


The responsibility is shared, you'd be surprised how much the kids complain when they have to write on paper vs online. If they don't come in already addicted to screens it'd be easier to not use them


Omg do you hear yourself? Kids don't come in to kindergarten used to typing on computers lol that's a habit taught in school. MCPS doesn't even bother teach handwriting.


But most kids come to school having been on iPads since they were 2 years old.


We have babies and toddlers in strollers on iPads at drop off and pick up at my school. Most of the time the tablets have those rubber cases with handles on the sides so kids can grip them.
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Anonymous wrote:This morning my 6 yo asked me if she could "watch" a book that she had "watched" in school. We happened to have the actual book at home, but when I read it, she said the "real" book has sound effects.

Is there any chance of getting rid of these giant screens or at least avoiding having kids regularly watch videos under the guise of "reading"?


I would give up a part of my salary to work in a school with projectors and no chromebooks as long as I didn't have a limit on the amount of copies I made. Sorry to the younger teachers but I actually got good results with spelling and reading when I used those 'evil' packets. Not saying that all schooling should be old fashioned, but there's something to be said for the muscle/mind connection. But when the county started limiting our paper, we were forced to switch to screens.


In other words MCPS used the money that could have been used for paper to buy expensive screens that harm children. Stinks of corruption.


Corruption, no. Bad choice? Yes hindsight is 20/20. Many parents who complain about the screens in schools hand their children iPhones the minute they’re bored. Attention spans are at an all time low, so some teachers feel like they can’t keep the children’s attention like they used to.

The whole educational system and parenting practices can use an overhaul (but no, not in the way Trmp is doing it).


I knew someone would come here and blame the parents for MCPS's poor choices.

Teachers use screens because they are there. Take them out of the classroom.


The responsibility is shared, you'd be surprised how much the kids complain when they have to write on paper vs online. If they don't come in already addicted to screens it'd be easier to not use them


Omg do you hear yourself? Kids don't come in to kindergarten used to typing on computers lol that's a habit taught in school. MCPS doesn't even bother teach handwriting.


But most kids come to school having been on iPads since they were 2 years old.


Therefore it's ok for you to show kids videos instead of reading to them?
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Anonymous wrote:This morning my 6 yo asked me if she could "watch" a book that she had "watched" in school. We happened to have the actual book at home, but when I read it, she said the "real" book has sound effects.

Is there any chance of getting rid of these giant screens or at least avoiding having kids regularly watch videos under the guise of "reading"?


I would give up a part of my salary to work in a school with projectors and no chromebooks as long as I didn't have a limit on the amount of copies I made. Sorry to the younger teachers but I actually got good results with spelling and reading when I used those 'evil' packets. Not saying that all schooling should be old fashioned, but there's something to be said for the muscle/mind connection. But when the county started limiting our paper, we were forced to switch to screens.


In other words MCPS used the money that could have been used for paper to buy expensive screens that harm children. Stinks of corruption.


Corruption, no. Bad choice? Yes hindsight is 20/20. Many parents who complain about the screens in schools hand their children iPhones the minute they’re bored. Attention spans are at an all time low, so some teachers feel like they can’t keep the children’s attention like they used to.

The whole educational system and parenting practices can use an overhaul (but no, not in the way Trmp is doing it).


I knew someone would come here and blame the parents for MCPS's poor choices.

Teachers use screens because they are there. Take them out of the classroom.


The responsibility is shared, you'd be surprised how much the kids complain when they have to write on paper vs online. If they don't come in already addicted to screens it'd be easier to not use them


Omg do you hear yourself? Kids don't come in to kindergarten used to typing on computers lol that's a habit taught in school. MCPS doesn't even bother teach handwriting.


But most kids come to school having been on iPads since they were 2 years old.


We have babies and toddlers in strollers on iPads at drop off and pick up at my school. Most of the time the tablets have those rubber cases with handles on the sides so kids can grip them.


Can't defend giant screens in classrooms so change the subject to bash parents! So smart and original.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I only show a book being read on YouTube when I can’t get a physical copy of the book. I’ve been teaching for years so I’ve accumulated a lot of books but sometimes the school library or other teachers at my school don’t have the book I need.


OP here. My DC says her teachers primarily show videos of books versus reading physical copies.

And frankly, the book we read this morning is cool, but by no means so special that it NEEDED to be taught versus reading the physical books that are available.


Ask them why. It’s probably because they don’t have the physical book. I also do it when the book is tiny. My doc camera is dead so I can’t show the pictures.


There is a media center full of books at the school. There are books. And the books I am hearing about don't seem so special that they can't be substituted with different ones.

I'm stunned you think this is defensible.


I am stunned you can’t understand there might be reasons the teacher does this. Our media center doesn’t have every book I need to read and if it’s seasonal, they are often not available at the public library.

But if you think you’re kid’s teacher is doing it because she’s lazy, be sure to tell her that you would like to either sign an opt out form for tech or offer to buy the books she needs.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I only show a book being read on YouTube when I can’t get a physical copy of the book. I’ve been teaching for years so I’ve accumulated a lot of books but sometimes the school library or other teachers at my school don’t have the book I need.


OP here. My DC says her teachers primarily show videos of books versus reading physical copies.

And frankly, the book we read this morning is cool, but by no means so special that it NEEDED to be taught versus reading the physical books that are available.


Ask them why. It’s probably because they don’t have the physical book. I also do it when the book is tiny. My doc camera is dead so I can’t show the pictures.


There is a media center full of books at the school. There are books. And the books I am hearing about don't seem so special that they can't be substituted with different ones.

I'm stunned you think this is defensible.


I am stunned you can’t understand there might be reasons the teacher does this. Our media center doesn’t have every book I need to read and if it’s seasonal, they are often not available at the public library.

But if you think you’re kid’s teacher is doing it because she’s lazy, be sure to tell her that you would like to either sign an opt out form for tech or offer to buy the books she needs.


You are really digging in on showing videos to kids in classrooms while you are paid to teach

You don't need to have the perfect book for every season. Showing a video of the perfect book is not better than reading a different book. It is far worse.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I only show a book being read on YouTube when I can’t get a physical copy of the book. I’ve been teaching for years so I’ve accumulated a lot of books but sometimes the school library or other teachers at my school don’t have the book I need.


I’m a librarian and this is true for me too. I read the physical book 90% of the time but if I don’t have it and I need to read it, I put it on the screen. I don’t think this is as dramatic an issue as you think it is.

Also, unfortunately I will point out that there are many children out there who will absolutely not listen or pay any attention to a teacher, but will listen to and respect a video. It’s painful. We do what we have to do.
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The MCCPTA passed a resolution asking MCPS to do a better job of balancing screen time in 2023: https://www.thesentinel.com/communities/first-parent-led-digital-balance-resolution-in-the-u-s-passed-in-montgomery-county/article_6a1ba696-a9a4-11ed-b5ae-bf5c1ff75c5f.html

MCPS has summarily ignored it. Which tells you how little power the MCCPTA actually wields.
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I'm a teacher. Generally, if I put something on a screen, it's one of two things.

1) I have something I need to do. For example, I might need to assess a kid, or deal urgently with a behavior.

2) I want to illustrate something very specific. So, for example we're studying poetry with sound effects, and I want them to watch a video where someone does a really good job of reading the sound effects.

3) The video includes something where video is helpful. Often this comes up in social studies or science, where a nonfiction text might want kids to see clips from something we're studying. For example, we were recently learning about conservation of energy, and watched a video that included a clip of a roller coaster that we could pause and talk about the transfer between gravitational potential and kinetic energy at various points.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I only show a book being read on YouTube when I can’t get a physical copy of the book. I’ve been teaching for years so I’ve accumulated a lot of books but sometimes the school library or other teachers at my school don’t have the book I need.


I’m a librarian and this is true for me too. I read the physical book 90% of the time but if I don’t have it and I need to read it, I put it on the screen. I don’t think this is as dramatic an issue as you think it is.

Also, unfortunately I will point out that there are many children out there who will absolutely not listen or pay any attention to a teacher, but will listen to and respect a video. It’s painful. We do what we have to do.


omg, this is insane and suggests we should just defund the schools if you are just going to show videos when kids don't pay attention. you blame parents, but have giant screens in classrooms from day 1 of kindergarten and zero consequences for bad behavior. gmafb.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. Generally, if I put something on a screen, it's one of two things.

1) I have something I need to do. For example, I might need to assess a kid, or deal urgently with a behavior.

2) I want to illustrate something very specific. So, for example we're studying poetry with sound effects, and I want them to watch a video where someone does a really good job of reading the sound effects.

3) The video includes something where video is helpful. Often this comes up in social studies or science, where a nonfiction text might want kids to see clips from something we're studying. For example, we were recently learning about conservation of energy, and watched a video that included a clip of a roller coaster that we could pause and talk about the transfer between gravitational potential and kinetic energy at various points.


These sound like good uses to me. Thanks, teacher PP for the examples!
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Anonymous wrote:This morning my 6 yo asked me if she could "watch" a book that she had "watched" in school. We happened to have the actual book at home, but when I read it, she said the "real" book has sound effects.

Is there any chance of getting rid of these giant screens or at least avoiding having kids regularly watch videos under the guise of "reading"?


May very well have been on her Chromebook, not necessarily the Promethean board. Neither is going away.
Anonymous
My daughter's art teacher (at a very well regarded FCPS elementary) would show the videos that the teacher previously made for YouTube to the class instead of teaching art. Get screens out of schools.
Anonymous
If screens aren't going away, can we at least get a YouTube for schools - where the kids don't have to watch advertisements every time they are shown a video?
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How else can I show the kids banned books?
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