How accurate have you found MaiaLearning, Scoir, etc to be in your student's college application experience?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Thanks. My question isn't what the scatterplot reflects but whether colleges use the 7-semester GPA in RD admissions review.

Schools that have an ED1 round and an ED2/RD round (or just an ED round and RD round) always ask for grades for the 7th semester (senior year fall).

What ends up happening is that 9-11th grades are sent by the high school at the time of application. Then the f7th semester is sent when it's available.

So who knows how the colleges reviews things. The 7th semester is ALWAYS received separately. Do they somehow calculate it into the overall GPA? Do they view it as a separate data point? Do they never review it? Who knows.

While it's unclear to us parents, someone knows. Hence my asking the question.

Really, no need to be an a$$.
Nobody on here knows the answer to what you're asking because each admissions office is different. Some may have the bandwidth to recalculate the GPA. Some may "look" at these grades. Some may reference them as a tiebreaker. Some may never really look at them.

[Anonymous]

Our school forced us into the system or no counseling!

I find it shameful and think its used as a tool to dissuade students from their dreams; while helping the purported stats of college acceptance from the office.

Clearly its not accurate and extracurruculars, uniqueness, time spent outside of school, relevance to the cohort and often academic pathways demonstrating interest in a program.

Thats not for one second what Maia can assess for any student and nobody should put this inhibiting bias on any student

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I think schools have some leeway how they use it.

Our school:
- uses 4 years, you can’t limit further. On bat graph I can see per year. Scatterplot is full four years.
- inputs data on their own. Uses final (gpa at graduation). (Our school also has more p/f second semester senior year so GPA doesn’t move much)
- some schools pull out outliers. Ours doesn’t. (Questbridge and athletes are often out of norm)
- data for super selective is never all red or green so it doesn’t tell much. It does help know where ED helps. (Chicago I knew before. Duke I didn’t)

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Anonymous wrote:Our school forced us into the system or no counseling!

I find it shameful and think its used as a tool to dissuade students from their dreams; while helping the purported stats of college acceptance from the office.

Clearly its not accurate and extracurruculars, uniqueness, time spent outside of school, relevance to the cohort and often academic pathways demonstrating interest in a program.

Thats not for one second what Maia can assess for any student and nobody should put this inhibiting bias on any student

That’s fine, but it’s still helpful to know that at a school my kid was interested in, they haven’t taken a single kid with a gpa below a certain number. So now I know the gpa minimum, no matter the special extra curriculars. The part of the scattergram where there are accept/reject/deferral, thats the gpa you can surmise the extras matter. But there’s still a lot to learn from the top and bottom of the scattergram, where no letter of recommendation is going to tip the scales

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have Naviance; it shows 4 years. School doesn't weight. My DC was over the average GPA for his ED school, but apparently that's meaningless since he ED'd Chicago and I've since discovered they accept 100% of ED applicants.

Are you public or private?

[Anonymous]

It’s helpful to get a sense for safeties and targets.

The reaches will vary based on so many personal factors.

[Anonymous]

I found Scoir to be not at all helpful because not all kids put in their information, including final results. And yes, we know this because we know kids from previous classes whose information isn’t there.

Also the school manipulates it (will only show schools that had at least 5 acceptances, I think) so many schools show nothing. At all. Looks like no one ever applied there. Beyond frustrating.

Finally, even in a best case scenario these tools don’t help because admissions keeps changing every year and (as PPs have said) it doesn’t show the other “stuff” that helps kids get in (athlete, patent, faculty kid, famous parent,etc).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have Naviance; it shows 4 years. School doesn't weight. My DC was over the average GPA for his ED school, but apparently that's meaningless since he ED'd Chicago and I've since discovered they accept 100% of ED applicants.

Are you public or private?

Magnet (public) school

[Anonymous]

W school. For my DC, it has been accurate for the 11 schools DC has heard from so far: Admitted to all matches and safeties, denied from two reaches, deferred from another reach.

[Anonymous]

The number of years displayed for historical data has nothing to do with the platform but what your school chooses for you to see. Your school sets how many years of historical data you and your students can see. They often times limit the amount of data shown so it’s most relevant and/or there is enough data for students identity to remain anonymous.

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Ours was surprisingly accurate for DD’s reach. Schoolinks (similar program to Naviance) predicted she’d get in, but we were skeptical as she applied as a competitive major and previous recent admits were for less competitive majors. It likely helped that she applied ED.

While it’s not localized data, I would try CollegeVine’s predictor tool. You can input a lot more in terms of extracurricular activities, etc.