APS Laptop use in HS

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

This is how the world is now! Don't you use a computer all day at work? They will be expected to of this in college, at work, internships, etc.

Learning and mastering new skills and knowledge is a different task than creating a work product for a corporate environment.

They will have much better retention and understanding if they are not staring at a screen, there are many studies about that, especially with the emphasis of learning and memorization for your handwriting.

In college, there are many professors that band laptops, because they know it tracks from the lecture and retention.

I agree the giving presentations is a valuable skill, and you can make the presentation material on a laptop for page layout, and better displays. But it should be them speaking in person in front of the crowd, not making a video that the class will play on their own, with chances to retake and without the pressure of in person.

Is your kid in APS now?

You don’t think they will get into the “big 3” for HS? You could look at parochial schools. Admissions is easier.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

This is how the world is now! Don't you use a computer all day at work? They will be expected to of this in college, at work, internships, etc.

Learning and mastering new skills and knowledge is a different task than creating a work product for a corporate environment.

They will have much better retention and understanding if they are not staring at a screen, there are many studies about that, especially with the emphasis of learning and memorization for your handwriting.

In college, there are many professors that band laptops, because they know it tracks from the lecture and retention.

I agree the giving presentations is a valuable skill, and you can make the presentation material on a laptop for page layout, and better displays. But it should be them speaking in person in front of the crowd, not making a video that the class will play on their own, with chances to retake and without the pressure of in person.

Is your kid in APS now?

You don’t think they will get into the “big 3” for HS? You could look at parochial schools. Admissions is easier.

I have no idea what is considered big 3, that’s a moving target, but anyways, my oldest is at STA and does fine, but we did supplement a lot over the APS middle school. My younger child may go to APS for high school hence my concern for laptop overuse.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

Yeah, I work in hard sciences and program in Python, R, and LabView.

I actually don’t do much on phones and don’t use wordprocessors as much anymore except when writing a paper

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

I appreciate your wry observation though . I never said big tech!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

Yeah, I work in hard sciences and program in Python, R, and LabView.

I actually don’t do much on phones and don’t use wordprocessors as much anymore except when writing a paper

…or interact with humans much?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

Yeah, I work in hard sciences and program in Python, R, and LabView.

I actually don’t do much on phones and don’t use wordprocessors as much anymore except when writing a paper

…or interact with humans much?

Well, not on my phone, I never use social media except this website

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

Yeah, I work in hard sciences and program in Python, R, and LabView.

I actually don’t do much on phones and don’t use wordprocessors as much anymore except when writing a paper

…or interact with humans much?

So I see that we have now been distracted from the topic at hand, laptop use in high school and what is appropriate, and instead descended to ad hominem attacks.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

Yeah, I work in hard sciences and program in Python, R, and LabView.

I actually don’t do much on phones and don’t use wordprocessors as much anymore except when writing a paper

…or interact with humans much?

So I see that we have now been distracted from the topic at hand, laptop use in high school and what is appropriate, and instead descended to ad hominem attacks.

The topic is how APS uses laptops in high school. It’s not a platform for clueless, insufferable non-APS parents to pontificate about phone and laptop use.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing about the video presentations. What my kid is able to produce now, especially the foreign language ones for their exchange school, is so much more advanced than when I did in the early 90s. Creating video presentations for educational purposes is not a 2020's phenomena. It's just a lot easier and better since you don't have to find the one friend with a recording device (or check it out from the school).

Exactly. Our junior high video presentations for various classes in the mid 90s were okay but nothing compared with the advanced capabilities of today.

To the one PPP, video and multimedia as a part of learning core subjects have been commonplace in public schools since the 80s if not before. They are not a waste of time.

And this is exactly why public schools produce kids who are unable to write. They should be writing analysis and essays not tweaking multimedia.

These are not mutually exclusive skills. Videos don't replace writing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.

I use Siri dictation. I must’ve paused too long and it got confused.

I will confess I probably have never typed an apostrophe DCUM. I EXPECT MY AUTOCORRECT TO DO ALL THAT WORK, I MEAN, I’M TYPING ON A PHONE HALF THE TIME OR DICTATING.

And I don’t know why I went all caps, but I don’t feel like retyping it, technology!

You say that you’re “in tech”?

Yeah, I work in hard sciences and program in Python, R, and LabView.

I actually don’t do much on phones and don’t use wordprocessors as much anymore except when writing a paper

…or interact with humans much?

So I see that we have now been distracted from the topic at hand, laptop use in high school and what is appropriate, and instead descended to ad hominem attacks.

The topic is how APS uses laptops in high school. It’s not a platform for clueless, insufferable non-APS parents to pontificate about phone and laptop use.

I think there are bots in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing about the video presentations. What my kid is able to produce now, especially the foreign language ones for their exchange school, is so much more advanced than when I did in the early 90s. Creating video presentations for educational purposes is not a 2020's phenomena. It's just a lot easier and better since you don't have to find the one friend with a recording device (or check it out from the school).

Exactly. Our junior high video presentations for various classes in the mid 90s were okay but nothing compared with the advanced capabilities of today.

To the one PPP, video and multimedia as a part of learning core subjects have been commonplace in public schools since the 80s if not before. They are not a waste of time.

And this is exactly why public schools produce kids who are unable to write. They should be writing analysis and essays not tweaking multimedia.

These are not mutually exclusive skills. Videos don't replace writing.

Great, so they are done occasionally. On those days, they can require laptops. I think 1 a year is about the right quantity unless its an AV class.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't every school district use laptops in HS? I'd work on a system to help your DS remember it.

Agree with this.
Your kid is going to have to learn how to manage it at some point. The earlier he begins, the more practice he gets, the more he develops his skills. The world is not going to accommodate his every weakness forever.

With phones banned, he may need to communicate with people via email once in a while.

How is that better? It's more disruptive to have to go into email.

That isn't the point of OP's inquiry. OP is concerned about them losing their laptop.