Which HS has the best crew program?

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Suure jann
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Anonymous wrote:Why did you say of "of NOVA public's of course?"

There are many excellent crew teams in Maryland, notably the Whitman crew team.


The MD schools don’t matter because they compete in some other league; not the league here.


“Here” being the northern Virginia HS crew subforum? You are funny.
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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Then don’t worry about a high school program and have him join Potomac or TBC. The club teams (and summer club in particular) will give him the opportunities that matter to Ivy recruiting. And obviously his erg 2k time + body type
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Then don’t worry about a high school program and have him join Potomac or TBC. The club teams (and summer club in particular) will give him the opportunities that matter to Ivy recruiting. And obviously his erg 2k time + body type


Put another way, the VA HS teams are only relevant if they are legitimately good teams nationally. Ivy schools don't care much about public school state titles, since clearly private schools dominate much of crew.

You should look at the VA HS state times and compare to Stotesbury winning times...seems like if these teams don't even participate in these large, HS regattas that they aren't serious programs in the scheme of things.
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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Then don’t worry about a high school program and have him join Potomac or TBC. The club teams (and summer club in particular) will give him the opportunities that matter to Ivy recruiting. And obviously his erg 2k time + body type


Put another way, the VA HS teams are only relevant if they are legitimately good teams nationally. Ivy schools don't care much about public school state titles, since clearly private schools dominate much of crew.

You should look at the VA HS state times and compare to Stotesbury winning times...seems like if these teams don't even participate in these large, HS regattas that they aren't serious programs in the scheme of things.


There is no such thing as a 'public school state title' - the regional scholastic championship (WMIRA) is open to public and private schools. Maclean is possibly the strongest NOVA crew at the moment - they were Stotesbury Cup semi-finalists this year. TBC and DC National are both nationally recognized club programs and offer the best opportunities beyond high school crews. However, club programs are excluded from state and scholastic events and gear their season towards Youth Nationals and row through the summer. Ivy recruiting is hugely competitive. He will need stellar academics, a sub 6.20 2k erg score and know that half the recruits are going to be internationals, so maybe 10 spots per elite program up for grabs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Then don’t worry about a high school program and have him join Potomac or TBC. The club teams (and summer club in particular) will give him the opportunities that matter to Ivy recruiting. And obviously his erg 2k time + body type


Put another way, the VA HS teams are only relevant if they are legitimately good teams nationally. Ivy schools don't care much about public school state titles, since clearly private schools dominate much of crew.

You should look at the VA HS state times and compare to Stotesbury winning times...seems like if these teams don't even participate in these large, HS regattas that they aren't serious programs in the scheme of things.


There is no such thing as a 'public school state title' - the regional scholastic championship (WMIRA) is open to public and private schools. Maclean is possibly the strongest NOVA crew at the moment - they were Stotesbury Cup semi-finalists this year. TBC and DC National are both nationally recognized club programs and offer the best opportunities beyond high school crews. However, club programs are excluded from state and scholastic events and gear their season towards Youth Nationals and row through the summer. Ivy recruiting is hugely competitive. He will need stellar academics, a sub 6.20 2k erg score and know that half the recruits are going to be internationals, so maybe 10 spots per elite program up for grabs.


10 is a lot compared to many sports
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DC National is top for girls.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Then don’t worry about a high school program and have him join Potomac or TBC. The club teams (and summer club in particular) will give him the opportunities that matter to Ivy recruiting. And obviously his erg 2k time + body type


Put another way, the VA HS teams are only relevant if they are legitimately good teams nationally. Ivy schools don't care much about public school state titles, since clearly private schools dominate much of crew.

You should look at the VA HS state times and compare to Stotesbury winning times...seems like if these teams don't even participate in these large, HS regattas that they aren't serious programs in the scheme of things.


Dc area public high schools are very competitive at Stotes
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Lake Braddock? Are they still recovering from a poor head coach choice?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield has won the Virginia state championship on the girls side the last few years.

The best FCPS girls program is probably Woodson.


How is that possible? According to Langley crew: https://www.langleycrew.com/

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2024 State Champions

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/langley-high-school-crew-rows-into-its-30th-season/article_1c04a5b4-cf35-11ed-8da3-af8d17fb899f.html

Langley crew has captured state championships every year since 2012


Are those Langley championships for the varsity 8 boats?

According to the Wakefield Crew Boosters website “Wakefield has built a legacy of success. In 2024, the girls first varsity 8 won the state championships for the 4th year in a row,”


No, Langley isn’t fielding Varsity 8 boats. The best boys programs in recent years among NoVa publics have been McLean, West Springfield, and Wakefield.


Thanks! This is the info I have been looking for.


Now get your unathletic kid on one of these teams so he can get that coveted ivy hook


He is quite athletic, thanks. Has the right body type too.

But yes, the Ivy hook is indeed the goal here, thanks.


Then don’t worry about a high school program and have him join Potomac or TBC. The club teams (and summer club in particular) will give him the opportunities that matter to Ivy recruiting. And obviously his erg 2k time + body type


Put another way, the VA HS teams are only relevant if they are legitimately good teams nationally. Ivy schools don't care much about public school state titles, since clearly private schools dominate much of crew.

You should look at the VA HS state times and compare to Stotesbury winning times...seems like if these teams don't even participate in these large, HS regattas that they aren't serious programs in the scheme of things.


In the DC area, crew has traditionally been a public school sport (going on eight decades), one that was dominated by Northern Virginia schools until relatively recently. And there is a long legacy of national and international titles. You may argue today that East Coast private schools have leapfrogged over the public schools in this area. Maybe. I don’t know. But we can still be proud of the crew tradition here in the DC region.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Deerfield Academy has the fastest HS boats in the country.

And they just announced ah-mazing financial aid for middle class families. Much more robust than local privates.

The trick is getting in.

Buy an erg and hope that your kids likes to suffer. Crew is one of the toughest sports.
I don’t think you can become good enough if the only motivation is to get recruited in college.
Parent of two recruited rowers.
Anonymous
Send him to Gonzaga to row and have him do a club team in the summers.
Anonymous
Crew programs today make me sad. I am a former D1 varsity rower and also attended a top NE private school program (Junior Olympic level). I never experienced the discouraging and frankly dangerous level of intensity that 13-14 YO student rowers face today.

My middle school and HS aged kids are perfect for crew as far as body type and have love of it, but the intensity of 6 days per week practices (including at 5am before school and on Saturdays). 2 hour long erg sessions 4x a week. Mandatory 6 day per week winter training. Mandatory erg relays. Mandatory spring break travel training. Even for freshman and novice rowers at the 13-14 YO range in PUBLIC school. It’s wayyyyy too much. And I say that as a former D1 varsity rower. This is deeply concerning and setting these kids up for serious lifelong injury to knees and lower back. One of my kids stopped going to practice because they kept seeing team mates vomiting after training and upset them. This isn’t normal. Who normalized this?
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Anonymous wrote:Crew programs today make me sad. I am a former D1 varsity rower and also attended a top NE private school program (Junior Olympic level). I never experienced the discouraging and frankly dangerous level of intensity that 13-14 YO student rowers face today.

My middle school and HS aged kids are perfect for crew as far as body type and have love of it, but the intensity of 6 days per week practices (including at 5am before school and on Saturdays). 2 hour long erg sessions 4x a week. Mandatory 6 day per week winter training. Mandatory erg relays. Mandatory spring break travel training. Even for freshman and novice rowers at the 13-14 YO range in PUBLIC school. It’s wayyyyy too much. And I say that as a former D1 varsity rower. This is deeply concerning and setting these kids up for serious lifelong injury to knees and lower back. One of my kids stopped going to practice because they kept seeing team mates vomiting after training and upset them. This isn’t normal. Who normalized this?


Tiger moms
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Anonymous wrote:Crew programs today make me sad. I am a former D1 varsity rower and also attended a top NE private school program (Junior Olympic level). I never experienced the discouraging and frankly dangerous level of intensity that 13-14 YO student rowers face today.

My middle school and HS aged kids are perfect for crew as far as body type and have love of it, but the intensity of 6 days per week practices (including at 5am before school and on Saturdays). 2 hour long erg sessions 4x a week. Mandatory 6 day per week winter training. Mandatory erg relays. Mandatory spring break travel training. Even for freshman and novice rowers at the 13-14 YO range in PUBLIC school. It’s wayyyyy too much. And I say that as a former D1 varsity rower. This is deeply concerning and setting these kids up for serious lifelong injury to knees and lower back. One of my kids stopped going to practice because they kept seeing team mates vomiting after training and upset them. This isn’t normal. Who normalized this?


I was a coxswain at a DMV area public in the 90s that was, at the time, one of the best area programs. We had 6 day per week practices, mandatory spring break travel. Winter training erg sessions couldn't be mandatory because of state athletic association rules (still can't). The most intense kids would absolutely train until they puked, though mostly puking was reserved for VASRAs and byond.
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