Harvard Crimson Feeder Schools Exist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Andover.

Yes, kids there are very smart. No, of course they aren’t the only smart kids out there.

However, Andover is extremely rigorous. It’s basically a junior college. The preparation for college is therefore excellent.

Of course, there are also legacies and such, but don’t discount the importance of excellent preparation.

Andover selects students the same way as harvard. it is not a surprise that they send a lot of students there.

Wealthy legacies.
Top athletes in country club sports with decent academics.
Extremely intelligent students with no other hooks.

Combine that with the long history and relationship between the two as well as the geographic preference and it's not a surprise.

Yes, Andover provides great preparation for college but it's not really much better than the prep at any of the Big 3 in the DC area.

Look at the course of study at Andover and tell me any school in this area can touch it:

https://d2e3a5v56wj8r4.cloudfront.net/files/CourseOfStudy.pdf

Andover also has a renowned American Art museum and archeology museum. Students can study at those museums and do extensive research projects there.

Sorry — there’s just no comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your odds aren't any better at these schools if you're not a faculty kid, legacy, athlete, or URM. Only exception might by in-state publics like Boston Latin and Lexington, but even then, you're competing against a lot of faculty/legacy kids. Just look at when GDS had crazy Harvard stats last year, but it turned out most were legacy. I know very smart folks who went to Andover and they ended up at schools like Barnard, Dartmouth, Bates, BC, etc. that they applied ED. The competition is fierce because 75% of the kids would have no trouble with Ivy academics and everyone is applying to the same colleges.

Dartmouth is now a letdown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your odds aren't any better at these schools if you're not a faculty kid, legacy, athlete, or URM. Only exception might by in-state publics like Boston Latin and Lexington, but even then, you're competing against a lot of faculty/legacy kids. Just look at when GDS had crazy Harvard stats last year, but it turned out most were legacy. I know very smart folks who went to Andover and they ended up at schools like Barnard, Dartmouth, Bates, BC, etc. that they applied ED. The competition is fierce because 75% of the kids would have no trouble with Ivy academics and everyone is applying to the same colleges.

Dartmouth is now a letdown?

Didn’t mean it as a letdown, just showing it’s not easy to get HYPS and people go to a wide range of schools - actually quite a few end up at UMass Amherst every year at Andover nowadays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. If ever Harvard wanted to practice what it preaches, it might think about drawing on the talent of the other 99.97% of high schools out there.

[b]The most hypocritical institution in the world.[twitter]

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/diversity-and-access

Not true. Iam one of the public high school valectorians who got into Harvard. there were a lot of us. The reason the Ivies also pick the best of the private school students is because they are far better prepared for the rigors of Harvard than the public school kids. And, yes, it's true. The private kids ran circles around me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s with all of the Ivy bashing recently?

New RWNJ talking point released?

After the abolishment of affirmative action, there is no long any quid in the quid pro quo to leave the elite institutions alone for their elitist practices.
No one really complained about legacy until they got rid of affirmative action, it was always a problem but as long as they gave preferences to preferred racial groups.
No one really complained about donors or athletes or donors until they got rid of racial preferences.
Racial preferences acting as a moral shield from criticism for things like legacy, donors preferences, athletic preferences, etc.

But Harvard still has legacy

[Anonymous]

Somebody said Andover only had 4 Harvard admits last year when it’s been usually over 10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your odds aren't any better at these schools if you're not a faculty kid, legacy, athlete, or URM. Only exception might by in-state publics like Boston Latin and Lexington, but even then, you're competing against a lot of faculty/legacy kids. Just look at when GDS had crazy Harvard stats last year, but it turned out most were legacy. I know very smart folks who went to Andover and they ended up at schools like Barnard, Dartmouth, Bates, BC, etc. that they applied ED. The competition is fierce because 75% of the kids would have no trouble with Ivy academics and everyone is applying to the same colleges.

Dartmouth is now a letdown?

Didn’t mean it as a letdown, just showing it’s not easy to get HYPS and people go to a wide range of schools - actually quite a few end up at UMass Amherst every year at Andover nowadays.

7 out of a class of 300.

14 went to Yale
12 went to Harvard
9 went to Princeton

11.6% of the class to those 3 schools alone.

But sure — Andover’s college matriculation is weak these days.

Andover hasn’t sent everyone to the Ivy League in probably 40 years. But I challenge you to show me any high school that has stronger matriculation.

https://www.andover.edu/files/Profile20222023.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somebody said Andover only had 4 Harvard admits last year when it’s been usually over 10.

It’s so stupid when people post things that are so demonstrably false:

https://www.andover.edu/files/Profile20222023.pdf

12 kids went to Harvard. Presumably more were admitted.

[Anonymous]

Blair and McLean on there too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to say "Crimson"? It's Harvard. Do you also say Yale Dark Blue?

The Crimson is the name of the newspaper that published the article. The equivalent would be to say Yale Daily News.

But the OP is not talking about feeder schools to the newspaper. They're talking about Harvard College. It's bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to say "Crimson"? It's Harvard. Do you also say Yale Dark Blue?

The Crimson is the name of the newspaper that published the article. The equivalent would be to say Yale Daily News.

But the OP is not talking about feeder schools to the newspaper. They're talking about Harvard College. It's bizarre.

Do you really not get it?

The source of the info is the Crimson. They just missed a punctuation mark in the title.

It would’ve been clearer if they had written, “Harvard Crimson: Feeder Schools Exist.”

[Anonymous]

I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling is going on in here!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does a public school Range and Latin spend $34,000 per student?

It’s Cambridge Ringe and Latin and it is the public high school across the street from Harvard’s campus. It is full of Harvard professors’ kids, who are often very smart and do get an admissions bump from their parent’s employer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does a public school Range and Latin spend $34,000 per student?

It’s Cambridge Ringe and Latin and it is the public high school across the street from Harvard’s campus. It is full of Harvard professors’ kids, who are often very smart and do get an admissions bump from their
parent’s employer.

Thanks for providing zero information relevant to the question!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Andover.

Yes, kids there are very smart. No, of course they aren’t the only smart kids out there.

However, Andover is extremely rigorous. It’s basically a junior college. The preparation for college is therefore excellent.

Of course, there are also legacies and such, but don’t discount the importance of excellent preparation.

Andover selects students the same way as harvard. it is not a surprise that they send a lot of students there.

Wealthy legacies.
Top athletes in country club sports with decent academics.
Extremely intelligent students with no other hooks.

Combine that with the long history and relationship between the two as well as the geographic preference and it's not a surprise.

Yes, Andover provides great preparation for college but it's not really much better than the prep at any of the Big 3 in the DC area.

Look at the course of study at Andover and tell me any school in this area can touch it:

https://d2e3a5v56wj8r4.cloudfront.net/files/CourseOfStudy.pdf

Andover also has a renowned American Art museum and archeology museum. Students can study at those museums and do extensive research projects there.

Sorry — there’s just no comparison.

Andover has trimesters with electives so students get more choice on specific subtopic of English and Social Studies. That's nice and fun but not better than studying texts and countries selected by the administration and shared across the whole grade.
It's not like each student takes all 20 English electives.


DC has the Smithsonian museums!