Cub scout vs girl scout

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I forgot to mention that DH does not care about scouting, and he is on call working most of the time. It will be 95% me volunteering/participating as a parent to take DD to scouting. Maybe it is easier for me to enroll DD in girl scout.

If you yourself do not like camping, then definitely do Girl Scouts. Because parents need to accompany the kids on camping trips until 6th grade. And that is a big focus in Cub Scouts.

+1 !

I'm sorry to say this makes it an easy decision for me, lol. My daughter would enjoy, but it's not my thing and DH flat out refuses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I forgot to mention that DH does not care about scouting, and he is on call working most of the time. It will be 95% me volunteering/participating as a parent to take DD to scouting. Maybe it is easier for me to enroll DD in girl scout.

That's a consideration. It might be different in coed packs/troops, but as a single mom I've found Scouts BSA to be low-key unfriendly to me as the parent of a boy in a single-sex Cub Scout pack. Every other adult volunteer is a man, and there's this big focus on boy's empowerment and these being "male spaces." As the parent of a boy, I don't object to all-boy spaces but my son's pack starts to feel a little MRA-lite after a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

You sure about that? Scroll down to their mission:

https://www.scouting.org/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would base the decision on your DD's interests. Does she enjoy camping and the outdoors or she is more of an indoors girl? Cub Scouts for former, Girl Scouts for latter. Some GS troops do a little camping, but many do none at all. My DD loved Cub Scouts, and is with a few of the same girls as she moved up to Scouts. The outdoors focus was best suited to her interests and temperament. And it is inspiring her to watch the older girls make Eagle.

I completely disagree!

Our GS troop held most fair-weather meetings outdoors, or, involved activities that were held outdoors (painting, crafting, games, singing and dancing, etc) our GS troop outings also were mostly outdoors. We camped, went sledding, went swimming, apple picking, pumpkin patch, lavender garden, hiking in woods, touch a truck, countless other things, all outdoors.

I would call this "outdoors lite," at best. Are they doing weekend- and week-long camping and high adventure trips? Going white water rafting and rock climbing? Learning how to kayak and sail? Doing easy hikes or challenging hikes carrying all their gear on their backs? Learning first aid and survival skills? Scouts BSA is for serious outdoor enthusiasts. The early focus is camping skills. If that doesn't seem like a good fit for your DD, GS is better.

This sounds more like Scouts then Cub Scouts.. 5'year old are not backpacking fur a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I forgot to mention that DH does not care about scouting, and he is on call working most of the time. It will be 95% me volunteering/participating as a parent to take DD to scouting. Maybe it is easier for me to enroll DD in girl scout.

That's a consideration. It might be different in coed packs/troops, but as a single mom I've found Scouts BSA to be low-key unfriendly to me as the parent of a boy in a single-sex Cub Scout pack. Every other adult volunteer is a man, and there's this big focus on boy's empowerment and these being "male spaces." As the parent of a boy, I don't object to all-boy spaces but my son's pack starts to feel a little MRA-lite after a while.

Yeah, I didn't know how to frame this but there's a sharp divide online between the parents of girls on DCUM who hype up Scouting as a signficantly better, more outdoorsy, more "real deal" scouting option than GSUSA and talk about how great it is to encourage people to sign their daughters up, and the dads you see on Facebook who are seethingly furious that "feminazis" made Boy Scouts admit girls and stole this sacred male space to dilute it and contribute to the Wussification of the American Male (TM).

My guess (we did not choose Scouts in this debate) is that most dads in the immediate DC area aren't really those same guys, but as kids get older and attend functions further afield, I would not want my daughter being viewed as some kind of scapegoat for whatever fantasies about victimization are playing on a loop in these guys' heads.

[Anonymous]

I would visit both and let her decide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

Acknowledging its increased popularity with girls (who make up more than 14% of its current membership), the organization is officially changing its name to Scouting America in February 2025.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

Acknowledging its increased popularity with girls (who make up more than 14% of its current membership), the organization is officially changing its name to Scouting America in February 2025.

Yet it still references Boy Scouts of America and BCA all over its “Scouting” page. So which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

Acknowledging its increased popularity with girls (who make up more than 14% of its current membership), the organization is officially changing its name to Scouting America in February 2025.

Yet it still references Boy Scouts of America and BCA all over its “Scouting” page. So which is it?

BSA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would base the decision on your DD's interests. Does she enjoy camping and the outdoors or she is more of an indoors girl? Cub Scouts for former, Girl Scouts for latter. Some GS troops do a little camping, but many do none at all. My DD loved Cub Scouts, and is with a few of the same girls as she moved up to Scouts. The outdoors focus was best suited to her interests and temperament. And it is inspiring her to watch the older girls make Eagle.

I completely disagree!

Our GS troop held most fair-weather meetings outdoors, or, involved activities that were held outdoors (painting, crafting, games, singing and dancing, etc) our GS troop outings also were mostly outdoors. We camped, went sledding, went swimming, apple picking, pumpkin patch, lavender garden, hiking in woods, touch a truck, countless other things, all outdoors.

I would call this "outdoors lite," at best. Are they doing weekend- and week-long camping and high adventure trips? Going white water rafting and rock climbing? Learning how to kayak and sail? Doing easy hikes or challenging hikes carrying all their gear on their backs? Learning first aid and survival skills? Scouts BSA is for serious outdoor enthusiasts. The early focus is camping skills. If that doesn't seem like a good fit for your DD, GS is better.

This sounds more like Scouts then Cub Scouts.. 5'year old are not backpacking fur a week.

The more intense camping trips start in 6th but there are a lot of them in ES. Those focus on developing the basic skills needed to embark on more challenging ones in middle school and beyond. And yes, a parent needs to attend in ES, which will rule it out for some families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

Acknowledging its increased popularity with girls (who make up more than 14% of its current membership), the organization is officially changing its name to Scouting America in February 2025.

Yet it still references Boy Scouts of America and BCA all over its “Scouting” page. So which is it?

All branding will change in February 2025.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

Is it not called BOY Scouts?

It's actually not. Not anymore.

Acknowledging its increased popularity with girls (who make up more than 14% of its current membership), the organization is officially changing its name to Scouting America in February 2025.

Yet it still references Boy Scouts of America and BCA all over its “Scouting” page. So which is it?

All branding will change in February 2025.

We’ll see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow! I didn’t realize the “GS/CS War” was a thing!

We chose GS because we wanted DD to feel a sense of community with her female classmates, and to be led by women. We liked that it was women-led with the girl’s input. I felt more “female empowerment” with these things in mind than the, what we found to be, false sense of “female empowerment” from being a girl doing “boy things” that men organized.

"Boy things"? Lmao.

I put it in quotations for a reason and I’m sure you can figure out what I mean. Don’t be obtuse.

Putting it in quotes doesn't obviate the fact that you stated girls shouldn't be doing "men-led, boy things." Our troops are led by women, by the way, and to my daughter they are just "outdoors things," not the domain of boys. That's the point!