Rejected by Dartmouth but admitted into Yale, Princeton, Brown, UPenn, Cornell, Duke, and UCLA???

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Anonymous wrote:This is unhinged. Dartmouth is a great school and there is an element of luck in admissions.

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This reminds me of those posts you see on Facebook about a TV show or something and it will purposely have wrong information in the caption so people comment and I guess it increases monetization for the creator.

But this isn't like that so op it's just an idiot.

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I have relatives who experienced similar. Admitted by Ivies but rejected or WLed by lower ranked schools. I believe the calculation by these schools is that they do not believe the applicant will end up going there if accepted. So they're saving their stats for someone who's more likely to attend.

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Dartmouth is a very good school. Admissions at the highest level is a crap shoot. I don’t understand why this is so shocking to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is this possible when Dartmouth is the least prestigious of these schools?

The same person was rejected by Harvard, Stanford, and Columbia. Is Dartmouth trying to say it is on par with these other schools? LMAO.

Surely someone admitted into Yale and Princeton should be able to get into Dartmouth easily.

Dartmouth is literally not even in the top 100 best schools like seriously.

No - because each school is building it's class with those who have applied and each school has it's own priorities to start. They are not all the same. Every school is turning away thousands of qualified applicants. This student (parent) has ZERO to complain about. Any comparisons with this sort of wealth sounds like sour grapes (and greed).

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Anonymous wrote:How is this possible when Dartmouth is the least prestigious of these schools?

The same person was rejected by Harvard, Stanford, and Columbia. Is Dartmouth trying to say it is on par with these other schools? LMAO.

Surely someone admitted into Yale and Princeton should be able to get into Dartmouth easily.

Dartmouth is literally not even in the top 100 best schools like seriously.

We get it…you have a smart kid.

Nooo. It's not my kid. And it's not just this one kid I know.

I am shocked by kids getting into Princeton/Harvard/Yale and not Dartmouth. Who do they think they are? lmao??

An example Dartmouth waitlisted but gets into Princeton??? And Duke??? (not the person I am talking about, just an example I saw)

https://youtu.be/7MZzPl4Q8C8

OMG - why do you care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is this possible when Dartmouth is the least prestigious of these schools?

The same person was rejected by Harvard, Stanford, and Columbia. Is Dartmouth trying to say it is on par with these other schools? LMAO.

Surely someone admitted into Yale and Princeton should be able to get into Dartmouth easily.

Dartmouth is literally not even in the top 100 best schools like seriously.

Kudos to those that actually tried to provide a thoughtful answer, but I do wonder if threads like this are created for 'fun'. "Let me say something provocative and watch what happens..."

"Is Dartmouth trying to say it is on par with these other schools? LMAO." Uh...ok

I just thought I would find like-minded people here about Dartmouth. Seems I was wrong.

I don't think this school is on par with Harvard, Yale, Princeton or Columbia. Or Stanford. I think people admitted into these schools should have a pretty easy time getting into schools like Dartmouth. Even though it is ivy too. Makes me wonder who even got into Dartmouth if not a student who could get into Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:You people do not even see how thoroughly you have consumed the USNWR kool aid!

Every school is composing an incomng class. They consider multiple factors besides GPA and SAT scores.

For selective admits, there are never any guarantees .

(None of this should be news to OP)

Okay, but explain the logic of a Princeton admit not getting into Dartmouth which isn't a better school that Princeton and Yale! It makes no sense! What is up with this school?

Maybe they recognize that the kids who look like they want to go to Princeton and Yale are different than the ones who want to go to Dartmouth? These schools have very different social structures, let alone very different climates and locations.

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been having a very heavy DEI, gender diversity push lately.

Not true. Class of 2027 is 60% white. 60%. In AMERICA.

It takes effort to be an elite school with 60% white kids. And more boys than girls too.


https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/apply/class-profile-testing

I’m confused. What do you mean by that? 70% of the American population is white. What should Dartmouth’s percentage be?

Do you think that this means 70% of the people in every elite setting should be white?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been having a very heavy DEI, gender diversity push lately.

Not true. Class of 2027 is 60% white. 60%. In AMERICA.

It takes effort to be an elite school with 60% white kids. And more boys than girls too.


https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/apply/class-profile-testing

Have you ever heard of data?

The United States is 61% white. So, calm down .

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth is looking for a specific kind of kid. They're not interested in the STEM bots that shot-gun all the Ivies.

Okay but surely a child with great grades shouldn't have to lose out because of that? How can that be justified during selection?

A kid who applies to all those schools is probably not all that interested in Dartmouth. Why bother accepting someone who isn’t likely to attend at all, when there are many other kids who are just as bright who really want to go there?

But that is what waitlist is for. Its discriminatory to base admissions on who might likely attend

What? That is not true. Schools factor in likelihood of acceptance all the time . It is called yield protection.

(Posters just spout nonsense with such confidence. )

[Anonymous]

Um, OP, you obviously know nothing about Dartmouth. The idea that Dartmouth is less prestigious than UCLA or Cornell is ridiculous (and I say that as a UCLA grad). Dartmouth is about the same as Brown, Penn, and Duke.

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Dartmouth is in the middle of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people do not even see how thoroughly you have consumed the USNWR kool aid!

Every school is composing an incomng class. They consider multiple factors besides GPA and SAT scores.

For selective admits, there are never any guarantees .

(None of this should be news to OP)

Okay, but explain the logic of a Princeton admit not getting into Dartmouth which isn't a better school that Princeton and Yale! It makes no sense! What is up with this school?

Maybe they recognize that the kids who look like they want to go to Princeton and Yale are different than the ones who want to go to Dartmouth? These schools have very different social structures, let alone very different climates and locations.

This is a problem for me.
Privileged kids have the luxury of choosing colleges based on location and social structures.
Hardworking kids choose based on where they get the best FA package. Dartmouth is therefore discriminating against kids who want to compare the offers and choose the best. Its unfair.

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth is looking for a specific kind of kid. They're not interested in the STEM bots that shot-gun all the Ivies.

Okay but surely a child with great grades shouldn't have to lose out because of that? How can that be justified during selection?

A kid who applies to all those schools is probably not all that interested in Dartmouth. Why bother accepting someone who isn’t likely to attend at all, when there are many other kids who are just as bright who really want to go there?

Especially if this kind of derision and condescension came through in the essays. "You'd be lucky to have me" isn't a great way to get a date, and it doesn't work well for colleges, either.

If they're going into the application thinking of Dartmouth as "literally not even in the top 100 schools," then they probably didn't put the same care and attention into it as they did into applying to the other schools. They may have half-assed it, assuming they'd get in anyway because Dartmouth wasn't very "prestigious," and come across as smug or entitled. Or just didn't do enough research on the school, and been vague on "why Dartmouth?"

If the applicant couldn't convincingly demonstrate why Dartmouth would be a good fit for them, then it makes sense Dartmouth would turn them down. That's the point of holistic admissions.

I don't think that is the case because this person is not me. I am the one who is perplexed by the results. I doubt they came across as arrogant in the essays.

They obviously failed to make a convincing case for admission, though, so something must have tipped the balance away from their test scores. They couldn't make the case that they would be a better addition to that year's Dartmouth class than the hundreds of other kids posting the same or very similar numbers.

Call it yield protection, call it Dartmouth getting too big for their britches, whatever, but that's the nature of a holistic admissions system: nothing is guaranteed. Hopefully the kid understands that better than you do.

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth is looking for a specific kind of kid. They're not interested in the STEM bots that shot-gun all the Ivies.

Okay but surely a child with great grades shouldn't have to lose out because of that? How can that be justified during selection?

A kid who applies to all those schools is probably not all that interested in Dartmouth. Why bother accepting someone who isn’t likely to attend at all, when there are many other kids who are just as bright who really want to go there?

But that is what waitlist is for. Its discriminatory to base admissions on who might likely attend

What? That is not true. Schools factor in likelihood of acceptance all the time . It is called yield protection.

(Posters just spout nonsense with such confidence. )

Yes. But you don't have to accept it. Just because schools do it doesn't mean people shouldn't complain. ffs.