Class Sizess

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Maybe they could issue phones to kids that don't have them so the ones that don't care about school are busy watching tiktok instead of distracting others.

Teachers need to care about all students. The ones who don’t care usually suck up more time and energy from the teacher. It is draining to work with them but you can’t give up. Generally, there is a reason why they are so disinterested. But it takes time to figure out what is going on with them. Small gains sometimes take huge effort. It is not cool for a teacher to ignore any student - at least that is my philosophy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Maybe they could issue phones to kids that don't have them so the ones that don't care about school are busy watching tiktok instead of distracting others.

Teachers need to care about all students. The ones who don’t care usually suck up more time and energy from the teacher. It is draining to work with them but you can’t give up. Generally, there is a reason why they are so disinterested. But it takes time to figure out what is going on with them. Small gains sometimes take huge effort. It is not cool for a teacher to ignore any student - at least that is my philosophy.

Asking teachers to solve massive social problems by just caring more is how we got into this situation to begin with. No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Its both teacher's and students' fault but it is up to teachers to manage their classrooms and uphold expectations and standards. Many kids are behaving poorly as they are not held accountable and the adults don't care.

They took away the necessary tools to enable teachers to do this. It has resulted in a "what are you going to do about it" culture

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw my class sizes for the year (middle school)

29, 32, 32, 32, 33

This is to say: I will not be teaching your kid this year. I’ll be managing behaviors for 50 minutes and hoping information gets transferred at least once a day.

Here’s to a great school year!

My high school classes area 34, 35, 35, 36, 36...but at least Monifa got her million plus.

She lives rent free in your head

No, we pay taxes for the pleasure of having her live in our heads. Now they are being allocated to UMD.

[Anonymous]

If we try to hold the students accountable qe will be bullied by admin for making them look bad, even though they make tgemsekves look bad by being irresponsible bullies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Maybe they could issue phones to kids that don't have them so the ones that don't care about school are busy watching tiktok instead of distracting others.

Teachers need to care about all students. The ones who don’t care usually suck up more time and energy from the teacher. It is draining to work with them but you can’t give up. Generally, there is a reason why they are so disinterested. But it takes time to figure out what is going on with them. Small gains sometimes take huge effort. It is not cool for a teacher to ignore any student - at least that is my philosophy.

Asking teachers to solve massive social problems by just caring more is how we got into this situation to begin with. No.

This is so true. In particular, detracking for equity purposes has noble goals but is failing. Mixing ability groups means none of the kids get enough instruction tailored to their needs. Kids that are disruptive, can't pay attention, and have lower levels of understanding cannot successfully be taught with kids who are usually a year above grade level. And this contributes to the better students not wanting to go to school because it's too easy and sloppy student habits are excused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Maybe they could issue phones to kids that don't have them so the ones that don't care about school are busy watching tiktok instead of distracting others.

Teachers need to care about all students. The ones who don’t care usually suck up more time and energy from the teacher. It is draining to work with them but you can’t give up. Generally, there is a reason why they are so disinterested. But it takes time to figure out what is going on with them. Small gains sometimes take huge effort. It is not cool for a teacher to ignore any student - at least that is my philosophy.

Asking teachers to solve massive social problems by just caring more is how we got into this situation to begin with. No.

This is so true. In particular, detracking for equity purposes has noble goals but is failing. Mixing ability groups means none of the kids get enough instruction tailored to their needs. Kids that are disruptive, can't pay attention, and have lower levels of understanding cannot successfully be taught with kids who are usually a year above grade level. And this contributes to the better students not wanting to go to school because it's too easy and sloppy student habits are excused.

YUP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw my class sizes for the year (middle school)

29, 32, 32, 32, 33

This is to say: I will not be teaching your kid this year. I’ll be managing behaviors for 50 minutes and hoping information gets transferred at least once a day.

Here’s to a great school year!

My high school classes area 34, 35, 35, 36, 36...but at least Monifa got her million plus.

She lives rent free in your head

No, we pay taxes for the pleasure of having her live in our heads. Now they are being allocated to UMD.

You're just admitting she lives rent-free in your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw my class sizes for the year (middle school)

29, 32, 32, 32, 33

This is to say: I will not be teaching your kid this year. I’ll be managing behaviors for 50 minutes and hoping information gets transferred at least once a day.

Here’s to a great school year!

My high school classes area 34, 35, 35, 36, 36...but at least Monifa got her million plus.

She lives rent free in your head

No, we pay taxes for the pleasure of having her live in our heads. Now they are being allocated to UMD.

You're just admitting she lives rent-free in your head.

Why are you here? You contribute nothing. Please be quiet. This thread is about class sizes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw my class sizes for the year (middle school)

29, 32, 32, 32, 33

This is to say: I will not be teaching your kid this year. I’ll be managing behaviors for 50 minutes and hoping information gets transferred at least once a day.

Here’s to a great school year!

My high school classes area 34, 35, 35, 36, 36...but at least Monifa got her million plus.

She lives rent free in your head

No, we pay taxes for the pleasure of having her live in our heads. Now they are being allocated to UMD.

You're just admitting she lives rent-free in your head.

Why are you here? You contribute nothing. Please be quiet. This thread is about class sizes.

They live to defend Monifa's honor. I hope it's a relative given all of the unpaid labor they're willing to do on her behalf. If they're just former co-workers, doing this kind of reputation management and PR for a former co-worker is seriously unhealthy and obsessive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's in line with what they announced in June.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/publicinfo/community/school-year-2023-2024/Community-Message-20240612.html

Yup. Last year my classes were average 28. Other teaches should post here so people know how the one person class size increase from June is actually impacting their kids

Most of my classes growing up here back in the 80s were 35-40.

In the 80's we didn't have full inclusion. Children that were years behind or had major behaviors were put in different classes. It is not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Full inclusion is not what is growing the class size in this county since the 80's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Maybe they could issue phones to kids that don't have them so the ones that don't care about school are busy watching tiktok instead of distracting others.

Teachers need to care about all students. The ones who don’t care usually suck up more time and energy from the teacher. It is draining to work with them but you can’t give up. Generally, there is a reason why they are so disinterested. But it takes time to figure out what is going on with them. Small gains sometimes take huge effort. It is not cool for a teacher to ignore any student - at least that is my philosophy.

Asking teachers to solve massive social problems by just caring more is how we got into this situation to begin with. No.

This is why we need smaller classes. And we need Honors and on-level - not Honors for All. I have students who only show up sporadically but I can’t ignore them when they do show up. Every kid deserves attention - whether they are special education, high-performing, slackers, etc. Smaller classes and strict phone policies would help a lot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's in line with what they announced in June.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/publicinfo/community/school-year-2023-2024/Community-Message-20240612.html

Yup. Last year my classes were average 28. Other teaches should post here so people know how the one person class size increase from June is actually impacting their kids

Most of my classes growing up here back in the 80s were 35-40.

In the 80's we didn't have full inclusion. Children that were years behind or had major behaviors were put in different classes. It is not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Full inclusion is not what is growing the class size in this county since the 80's.

Class sizes have not been growing since the 80s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it will be the teachers fault if they are bouncing off the walls or being distracted on their phones

Maybe they could issue phones to kids that don't have them so the ones that don't care about school are busy watching tiktok instead of distracting others.

Teachers need to care about all students. The ones who don’t care usually suck up more time and energy from the teacher. It is draining to work with them but you can’t give up. Generally, there is a reason why they are so disinterested. But it takes time to figure out what is going on with them. Small gains sometimes take huge effort. It is not cool for a teacher to ignore any student - at least that is my philosophy.

Asking teachers to solve massive social problems by just caring more is how we got into this situation to begin with. No.

This is so true. In particular, detracking for equity purposes has noble goals but is failing. Mixing ability groups means none of the kids get enough instruction tailored to their needs. Kids that are disruptive, can't pay attention, and have lower levels of understanding cannot successfully be taught with kids who are usually a year above grade level. And this contributes to the better students not wanting to go to school because it's too easy and sloppy student habits are excused.

You forgot about the thousand points of light. That will solve this with some extra thoughts and prayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's in line with what they announced in June.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/publicinfo/community/school-year-2023-2024/Community-Message-20240612.html

Yup. Last year my classes were average 28. Other teaches should post here so people know how the one person class size increase from June is actually impacting their kids

Most of my classes growing up here back in the 80s were 35-40.

In the 80's we didn't have full inclusion. Children that were years behind or had major behaviors were put in different classes. It is not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Full inclusion is not what is growing the class size in this county since the 80's.

Class sizes have not been growing since the 80s.

My class sizes here in the 80s were much bigger than today. I think I had 40 kids in my PE class.