Change to policy re: moving out of boundary?

[Anonymous]

To the question of how many people rent IB for a short period of time - I personally know a family who moved IB for Janney while they were renovating their home EOTP. They enrolled their child in K. Their young child was able to enroll through preference of sibling enrolled.
They lived IB for 3 months - but attended Janney for 8 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

You know, if they’re willing to take the risk, I don’t begrudge anyone doing what they have to give their kids the best opportunities possible. It’s SO much more important for those kids to get out of their neighborhood schools than 99% of DCUM kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

Why do you not feel the same about Group #2?

[Anonymous]

I’m someone who used a grandparent’s address to get my child into a specific school. I’m in bounds for one overcrowded ward 3 school and I wanted my child to attend a different ward 3 school to be with their cousins. Both schools feed to the same middle school, so this was just an issue for elementary. I know some people have strong opinions on this, but I’m unconvinced I hurt anyone here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

Why do you not feel the same about Group #2?

Not PP, but Group 3 is lower income brown people that feel entitled. Group 2 are UMC and feel the appropriate level of shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

Why do you not feel the same about Group #2?

Not PP, but Group 3 is lower income brown people that feel entitled. Group 2 are UMC and feel the appropriate level of shame.

Or, group #3 lives in Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

Why do you not feel the same about Group #2?

Not PP, but Group 3 is lower income brown people that feel entitled. Group 2 are UMC and feel the appropriate level of shame.

Or, group #3 lives in Maryland.

That’s not the hypothetical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

Why do you not feel the same about Group #2?

Not PP, but Group 3 is lower income brown people that feel entitled. Group 2 are UMC and feel the appropriate level of shame.

Yikessssss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it could be a first step towards changing the policy in the future. dcum has pointed out online that the written policy was presumably well-intentioned but potentially a loophole for “moving” into the JR pyramid for 1 month and then claiming the policy supports that etc. now people will think twice about gaming the system. it would be cruel to suddenly say all students now attending under this provision cannot remain at their current e.g. elementary school next year.

I would be curious to know how many people actually try this, though -- moving IB for a school for a super short time just to enroll, and then returning to their OOB house. Especially if for less than a year.

I think people talk a big game on DCUM, and certainly some of this stuff happens (people using investment property addresses or grandparent addresses to claim IB status, moving temporarily to get an IB spot, etc.) but I really wonder how widespread it is. We have had bad lottery luck and had people in our neighborhood suggest doing stuff like this to get a spot in a better school, but notably none of the people recommending this strategy do it themselves. So I'm skeptical

There are three buckets of people that use this policy:

1. Housing unstable families that genuinely are moving within the city multiple times in a year.
2. DCUM types that are subletting for the purpose of school enrollment.
3. Multi generational DC residents who have a parent, aunt, or cousin who still owns the family house in NW their family bought 40 years ago.

It’s talked about a lot on DCUM, but it’s actually done a LOT by real DC folks who can’t afford to live where they grew up, or who went through DCPS themselves and know what schools they want to send their kids to (and which to avoid).

That group #3 drives me crazy. They feel entitled, but they have no right.

Why do you not feel the same about Group #2?

I don't like that either.

[Anonymous]

Group 4. Probably the largest group. Renters (or initially renters). Genuinely moving but relatively nearby. Not necessarily housing unstable. Not moving multiple times per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Group 4. Probably the largest group. Renters (or initially renters). Genuinely moving but relatively nearby. Not necessarily housing unstable. Not moving multiple times per year.

Yup. I'm a member of Group 4.

We rented a nice apartment for 10 years where we had our babies and where they started school. We kinda made an impulse purchase of a home that was close by but was in-boundary to the next school over. We decided to stay with our elementary school and have had no problems reenrolling each year. The middle school is the same so that's not an issue but it would suck if they did enforce this for what would be my youngest child's 5th grade year.

[Anonymous]

Yep, renters. There isn’t a lot of rental or less expensive housing stock, especially as kids get older and need more space and privacy. So you squeeze into a smaller space until you can’t. It might not be possible to find anything in particular bounds to rent or buy that both fits your needs and is in your budget, but does that mean your kids should have less stability in their education?

[Anonymous]

IB is IB, regardless how you get there. I see no problem with someone who owns a place OOB deciding to move to a rental so they can be IB. As long as they actually live in the IB place, how does that matter? And for the handful of people who use a relative's address to keep their kids in a better school, good luck to them. I wouldn't judge.