boycotting SOL movement

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Anonymous wrote:SOLs are so ridiculously easy. They are for the lowest common denominator. If a kid can’t pass them they need help.

Posters regurgitate this without knowing what they are talking about. The SOLs aren't easy. Every few years, VDOE adjusts the difficulty up or down and we're in an up period.

My kids admittedly were bpth National Merit Semi-Finalists (one a Finalist) and frankly the SOL's were easy for them. i don't think we gave them a moments notice.

Please have them explain to you how your comment is useless.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

Yes and since they can't demonstrate that via the actual standardized tests, they are trying to manufacture the appearance of decline by getting parents to opt out.

I hate the way schools prep for SOLs and would consider opting out for student anxiety reasons, but trying to gain board seats by encouraging families to opt out of the test is silly.

I don't care for the board and my kids are only in elementary so the SOLs are a pretty non-issue in our house, but I'm 100% with you on the bolded. Not only would it hurt some kids (like those who might be eligible for advanced math based on a pass advanced), but it won't gain a single board seat in a million years.

DP. Fwiw, the opt-out movement only really applies to elementary school. After that, students take them since they are required for graduation. So you are currently in peak optional-SOL time. (It isn't something that has really caught hold, here. No one opts out of the SOLs in grade school around here.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

Yes and since they can't demonstrate that via the actual standardized tests, they are trying to manufacture the appearance of decline by getting parents to opt out.

I hate the way schools prep for SOLs and would consider opting out for student anxiety reasons, but trying to gain board seats by encouraging families to opt out of the test is silly.

I don't care for the board and my kids are only in elementary so the SOLs are a pretty non-issue in our house, but I'm 100% with you on the bolded. Not only would it hurt some kids (like those who might be eligible for advanced math based on a pass advanced), but it won't gain a single board seat in a million years.

DP. Fwiw, the opt-out movement only really applies to elementary school. After that, students take them since they are required for graduation. So you are currently in peak optional-SOL time. (It isn't something that has really caught hold, here. No one opts out of the SOLs in grade school around here.)

PP here. I don't see the point of opting out of the SOLs.

[Anonymous]

Why would you do this. The tests are not perfect, but they provide a standardized benchmark that enables accountability for student learning outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every State has standardized tests to. "measure" learning. If you do not want your kid to take them, you can opt out.

+2

Op - do you have a better way or mote efficient idea on how to conduct a standardized benchmark or how to guage learning...across 95 counties.

I'll wait.

[Anonymous]

This was a thread a week or so ago and best reply was person who pointed out- don’t take SOL or purposefully fail and risk losing accreditation- doesn’t hurt FCPS, just your own housing price.

[Anonymous]

Good way to get your school defunded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good way to get your school defunded

It doesn't work like that anymore. They repealed NCLB years ago and the replacement increases funding for failing schools, not decreases it. It will tank your housing price though, as PP notes.

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There’s no movement

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SOLs are so ridiculously easy. They are for the lowest common denominator. If a kid can’t pass them they need help.

Posters regurgitate this without knowing what they are talking about. The SOLs aren't easy. Every few years, VDOE adjusts the difficulty up or down and we're in an up period.

Yea they are. That’s why most kids can pass them.

Well, yes. They are supposed to measure that kids have learned what they are supposed to learn in the school year. And most kids do. That's good. It doesn't necessarily mean the test is easy - it means the test is accurate.

I don’t think an 80-85% pass rate of a test where you need to get 60% of the questions correct to pass means that the test is “too easy”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SOLs are so ridiculously easy. They are for the lowest common denominator. If a kid can’t pass them they need help.

Posters regurgitate this without knowing what they are talking about. The SOLs aren't easy. Every few years, VDOE adjusts the difficulty up or down and we're in an up period.

Yea they are. That’s why most kids can pass them.

Well, yes. They are supposed to measure that kids have learned what they are supposed to learn in the school year. And most kids do. That's good. It doesn't necessarily mean the test is easy - it means the test is accurate.

It’s literally all multiple choice which is basically a recognition test. Recognitions tests are significant easier than recall tests, where you’d have to write in your own answer or even write an essay. There is no recall involved. It is absolutely meant to be easy. Accurate is totally different. Many people actually feel it’s not accurate. Too many of one question or too many different topics.

This is what really gets me about DCUM the spread of inaccurate information. It is not all multiple-choice, it’s closer to two-thirds of the questions are multiple-choice.

[Anonymous]

Been opting out my DC from SOLs since 2017.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Been opting out my DC from SOLs since 2017.

No you haven’t. They have to pass them in high school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

I don’t know who the “we” here are, but I’m guessing it’s Republicans?

Here’s an idea for you. Run people that are not insane, not Trumpers, not insurrectionists, not book banners, not transphobes… you get the idea. You run centrist candidates that are serious about improving the school system, you will get boatloads of votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

I don’t know who the “we” here are, but I’m guessing it’s Republicans?

Here’s an idea for you. Run people that are not insane, not Trumpers, not insurrectionists, not book banners, not transphobes… you get the idea. You run centrist candidates that are serious about improving the school system, you will get boatloads of votes.

There’s no such thing as a Republican or conservative who doesn’t believe in those things.