Questions about Latin

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Anonymous wrote:Latin’s test scores are pretty bad, in general. Many Latin parents will brush this off. Only you can decide if you’re ok with it.

In math, they are lower than three other high schools in DC. Two of those have selective admissions. One has a high attrition rate.

Here are the 4+ 10th grade PARCC scores:

BASIS

ELA 87.5
Math 90.0

Walls

ELA 93.5
Math 56.0

Banneker

ELA 84.09
Math 36.0

Latin

ELA 71.91
Math <=10.0

DCI

ELA 45.26
Math suppressed [27.48 in 9th grade]

And before you say “Latin must have admitted a bunch of dumb kids!” like the PP, know that Latin made a total of two waitlist offers for 10th grade that year.

A few posts up from yours was a discussion of why 10th or 11th grade scores in math are often not reflective of the student population as a whole, since most students are no longer taking math PARCC in those grades. But you list the 10th grade scores anyway. Except for DCI, where you shared the 9th grade scores because 10th grade data is suppressed, likely due to the very same factors that make the other schools' 10th grade scores not very meaningful.

Willful manipulation to make a misleading point, or innumeracy?

But... Why are BASIS and WALLs 10 the grade math scores so much better?

Hard to claim "manipulate" data when this person just posted the same data point for 5 different schools.

It is not the "same" data point at all. At BASIS, all of the 10th graders take the math PARCC. At Walls and Latin, it's just the minority of kids who took algebra as 9th graders, who are the worst-scoring in the school. And even between Walls and Latin, part of what you're looking at is how they select kids into the math class they take in 9th grade -- again, a selection issue. No one is arguing that Walls and BASIS don't have the best scores in the city, but the 10th grade scores are the worst way of looking at this.

This is correct from everything I have heard. BASIS has all the kids take a PARCC test for a math class that the students are well beyond. Latin has students take the test for the class they are in at the moment. The ELA scores are more apples to apples.