hope for 42+ women: CCRM lone tree vs NYU langone

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Anonymous wrote:NYU turns down people big they don't think they can take them on or get them pregnant. On one hand it's nice - because they aren't taking your money for nothing but it's really to make sure their stats are high.

I see it as a positive but people could argue that it's not fair. I appreciate the honesty.

I know that RMA New Jersey's age cutoff point on IVF is 45 and CCRM lone tree is 52. And I was told that there is no age cutoff for IVF at NYU by the front desk.

Age alone isn't a reason a clinic wouldn't take you or be honest about not being confident of helping.

That's not true, most clinics have a 42 age cut off for using own eggs. They don't want bad stats. At 43 the live birth rate is less than 5%

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Anonymous wrote:OP, how did your appointments go?

Jennifer Blakemore was not that welcoming or warm-hearted as described by others. She said a lot of discouraging words instead of focusing on the best treatment plan for me. She might only like those patients under 40. But she said that she was flexible with IVF treatment her patients want, like 4-5 untested embryo transferred at the same time. She should have at least 15-20 patients in a cycle each week. Is it normal for IVF centers?

It's not about like or preference. Why wouldn't you want someone to be honest about your specific prognosis? Do you want someone to sugarcoat things when they don't think they can help? Over 40 the AMT of embryos transferred is more flexible but doesn't necessarily mean more success. Some centers have more. NYU works on a Dr a day call schedule. Your REI is reviewing your plan and making adjustments but you may not see them at every visit or at all if your appointments don't fall on their day.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't those pretty standard stats for 42? At 38 mine were 30+ eggs, 17 mature, 14 fertilized, 7 day 6 and 1 PGT normal.

Yes, OP is looking for a unicorn. They want to hear there is some magic bullet that they haven't tried yet. When sometimes the stats just suck and continue the the older you get.

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Anonymous wrote:NYU turns down people big they don't think they can take them on or get them pregnant. On one hand it's nice - because they aren't taking your money for nothing but it's really to make sure their stats are high.

I see it as a positive but people could argue that it's not fair. I appreciate the honesty.

I know that RMA New Jersey's age cutoff point on IVF is 45 and CCRM lone tree is 52. And I was told that there is no age cutoff for IVF at NYU by the front desk.

Age alone isn't a reason a clinic wouldn't take you or be honest about not being confident of helping.

That's not true, most clinics have a 42 age cut off for using own eggs. They don't want bad stats. At 43 the live birth rate is less than 5%

Age is a factor but it's not the sole fact. That comment was in response to NYU not having an age cut off- they will let you try but after 1-2 rounds they absolutely will have the ED convo. However there are also other reasons besides age they would turn someone away.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, how did your appointments go?

Jennifer Blakemore was not that welcoming or warm-hearted as described by others. She said a lot of discouraging words instead of focusing on the best treatment plan for me. She might only like those patients under 40. But she said that she was flexible with IVF treatment her patients want, like 4-5 untested embryo transferred at the same time. She should have at least 15-20 patients in a cycle each week. Is it normal for IVF centers?

There is a no way a center like NYU is transferring 5 untested embryos. It's not evidence based and not part of their protocol. Unfortunately OP, you might need to look at donor gamates or have a personal cut off for yourself - how many more cycles do you have in you before exploring other options. Pgt testing is still recommended for patients over 40. I would not gamble on untested embryos at your age even if that meant risking that they all come back aneuploid. I'd rather know.

Big factory clinics have a ton of patients. That's not uncommon

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checked out the patient reviews on https://www.fertilityiq.com/

very accurate and up to date description. If I should have known this website, I would have avoided Jannelle Luk for sure. Her ratings are consistently below average.

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I was a patient at CCRM in Lone Tree many years ago. I also was a patient at Shady Grove before switching to CCRM. I did two cycles at age 44 and had a live birth at age 45 with my husband's sperm. They were exhaustive in testing my husband and I beforehand. If I had any questions, I was able to call the embryologist and speak with him directly. They would give me a status on the development of my embryos. They recommended acupuncture before and after implantation. They recommended a slew of vitamins/supplements before implantation to increase my chances of pregnancy. I also did acupuncture on my own for months and took various supplements before I arrived at CCRM which I believe helped. I saw nearly every specialist there, including Dr. Gustofson, Schoolcraft, and Surrey. They were just top notch and I could feel I was dealing with more knowledgeable doctors as compared to Shady Grove.

My suggestion is to go straight to CCRM in Lonet Tree as they truly are the best in their field.

Good luck to you. I know this process can be incredibly stressful.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a patient at CCRM in Lone Tree many years ago. I also was a patient at Shady Grove before switching to CCRM. I did two cycles at age 44 and had a live birth at age 45 with my husband's sperm. They were exhaustive in testing my husband and I beforehand. If I had any questions, I was able to call the embryologist and speak with him directly. They would give me a status on the development of my embryos. They recommended acupuncture before and after implantation. They recommended a slew of vitamins/supplements before implantation to increase my chances of pregnancy. I also did acupuncture on my own for months and took various supplements before I arrived at CCRM which I believe helped. I saw nearly every specialist there, including Dr. Gustofson, Schoolcraft, and Surrey. They were just top notch and I could feel I was dealing with more knowledgeable doctors as compared to Shady Grove.

My suggestion is to go straight to CCRM in Lonet Tree as they truly are the best in their field.

Good luck to you. I know this process can be incredibly stressful.

Thank you so much! Your story absolutely provides some hope.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, ladies:
I would like to hear your thoughts on the clinic choice for my next IVF. I just did one IVF with Janelle Luk at Generation Next in NYC, which was a complete failure. Out of 13 eggs retrieved, only 3 got fertilized. Yeah. We did receive ICSI at her lab. No viable embryo after PGTA. Dr Luk didn't do any follow-up after egg retrieval, knowing that I would transfer anyway after this round.
My question is whether I should go to CCRM lone tree in Colorado or pick NYU Langone. I scheduled to see Dr Jennifer Blakemore at NYU Langone in April and I have also consulted Dr Jason Franasiak at RMA New Jersy. From SART, these two clinics seem to be at the similar levels of IVF treatments.
CCRM lone tree has the best statistics for 42+ women, but I didn't hear anybody talking about their personal experience there. I also checked out the local CCRM branch in Vienna, Dr Ann Martini said that they would do the same things as CCRM lone tree and has the same lab protocol (though I couldn't see that from their statistics in 2019 on SART).
So where to go? CCRM lone tree or NYU Langone for Dr Blakemore for a woman with more advanced age (42+)? Could anybody share your experiences with CCRM lone tree, NYU langone or CCRM in Vienna?
Many many thanks!

It turns out that CCRM lone tree won't accept BCBS insurance for IVF. Now it is the debate between out-of -network CCRM lone tree and within-network Cornell. Does anybody have experiences with Cornell to share?Thanks

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I’d go in network. That’s a lot of money.

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Anonymous wrote:CCRM lone tree is amazing. I had had success at columbia at a much younger age and then a lot of failures. Before Columbia I had a disastrous experience at SGF. At 42 we decided to give it one more shot at CCRM Lone Tree. I had the absolute best results as far as egg quality, egg retrieved, embryos, etc out of all of my cycles, including ones I had done ten years earlier. The care is a level above, and it’s a well oiled machine so easy to do a cycle in just a few visits. I did do my monitoring locally at CF. We transferred just one and it was successful. Everything there is a notch above any local clinic. I did look at cornell but it didn't have quite as good stats for 40+ at the time, and they also didn't seem to be such a machine w/ out of state clients. Lone Tree makes it very easy.

Thank you so much for your input!!! Your experience absolutely gave me so hope. What is CF short for? Very much appreciated!

Sorry I had posted and then forgot to come back. Columbia Fertility was where I had an initial successful cycle. I wouldn’t mess around and would just go straight to Lone Tree. They have the most success with tricky cases. The SART stats should be taken with a grain of salt bc lone tree takes people who are turned away at other places. I met a few women there who had either had failed cycles at Cornell/NYU or who had been turned down by them.

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Anonymous wrote:checked out the patient reviews on https://www.fertilityiq.com/

very accurate and up to date description. If I should have known this website, I would have avoided Jannelle Luk for sure. Her ratings are consistently below average.

Well i had success for DD2 with Dr Luk after many failed cycles elsewhere. We also didnt test as i only got one embryo (i am AMA w DOR 42 at the time of retrieval with undetectable AMH). So it really depends.
I loved the fact she was matter of fact - I was a hardened IVF veteran who knew my body (i ovulate thru suppression to boot) and she listened and we got a baby first try. And we didnt test. Perfect 2.5 year old starting preschool soon.

DD1 was a fresh 3 day of two 8 cell embryos at Sher in NYC but i think they closed after Covid. I was also 37 then with .4 AMH. Many rounds at several clinics in between kids.