Best gifted programs in DMV?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

OP's DC is STEM oriented.

List should read:

1. TJ
2. Blair STEM magnet
3. Poolesville STEM magnet
4. RMIB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If he's gifted in math, there aren't any public schools in the DMV that will challenge him in K-8. You'd be better off supplementing with AoPS or RSM and accepting that school math will be worthless.

Have you met TKPMS? This MS competes in HS math competitions.

All of the kids competing in the math competitions at TPMS have supplemented for YEARS using Kumon, AoPS, RSM, whatever the flavor of the month is. Don't kid yourself that MCPS created these math phenoms.

dp.. indeed, they don't. Those math phenoms need gifted programs, and so MCPS provides specialized education to meet their needs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

OP's DC is STEM oriented.

List should read:

1. TJ
2. Blair STEM magnet
3. Poolesville STEM magnet
4. RMIB

1 and 2 are same level
4 is actually above 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

The good privates will do their best to screen out 2E children. I echo what PP said about FCPS having some teachers who are very experienced with ASD, only in our ES those teachers tended to be gen ed.

This list is absurd, OP. No one other than this strange poster would rank schools for gifted kids like this. There are very few gifted kids in top privates. I have kids two of those FWIW. At most you'll have 10 gifted kids in your child's whole grade. They just don't screen for academics the way magnet programs do.

FCPS has the most comprehensive and inclusive gifted programs with many tiers at almost all levels of schooling with TJ being at the top.
MCPS has extremely high quality programs that are almost impossible to access with the new lottery changes for ES and MS. In HS most of the top kids rise to the top but you need more than giftedness to get to the HS magnets. You need to show achievement, effort, motivation. Everyone knows Blair is the best. You can't compare the others to Blair but RM, Poolesville, and Wheaton engineering are also very respected. There are other, smaller programs at many other schools like a leadership magnet somewhere and a few others. If you go with MCPS some high schools also have their own local gifted type programs that families like. I think one is called Apex.

FWIW because of the way Fairfax is set up there are many 2e kids in AAP and even TJ. MCPS screens out many kids with IEPs or 504s although you will find a few of them who are always chiming in on DCUM.

I'm confused- are there fewer spots available than before?

As a backup you could be sure your home ES offers enriched literacy and compacted math in 4th/5th.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about the 2E part but Basis McLean is good for STEM. My kids are young and not in high school yet but it seems very strong, much stronger than others for elementary at least. We live in McLean.

For the record, my kids are probably not smart enough to excel at Basis in STEM.

[Anonymous]

Pp again. My kids are in AAP in McLean. Basis is far superior in STEM for elementary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

You're not allowed to NAME the Big 3!!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

The good privates will do their best to screen out 2E children. I echo what PP said about FCPS having some teachers who are very experienced with ASD, only in our ES those teachers tended to be gen ed.

This list is absurd, OP. No one other than this strange poster would rank schools for gifted kids like this. There are very few gifted kids in top privates. I have kids two of those FWIW. At most you'll have 10 gifted kids in your child's whole grade. They just don't screen for academics the way magnet programs do.

FCPS has the most comprehensive and inclusive gifted programs with many tiers at almost all levels of schooling with TJ being at the top.
MCPS has extremely high quality programs that are almost impossible to access with the new lottery changes for ES and MS. In HS most of the top kids rise to the top but you need more than giftedness to get to the HS magnets. You need to show achievement, effort, motivation. Everyone knows Blair is the best. You can't compare the others to Blair but RM, Poolesville, and Wheaton engineering are also very respected. There are other, smaller programs at many other schools like a leadership magnet somewhere and a few others. If you go with MCPS some high schools also have their own local gifted type programs that families like. I think one is called Apex.

FWIW because of the way Fairfax is set up there are many 2e kids in AAP and even TJ. MCPS screens out many kids with IEPs or 504s although you will find a few of them who are always chiming in on DCUM.

I'm confused- are there fewer spots available than before?

As a backup you could be sure your home ES offers enriched literacy and compacted math in 4th/5th.

The ES/MS programs stopped reserving spots for gifted kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

The good privates will do their best to screen out 2E children. I echo what PP said about FCPS having some teachers who are very experienced with ASD, only in our ES those teachers tended to be gen ed.

This list is absurd, OP. No one other than this strange poster would rank schools for gifted kids like this. There are very few gifted kids in top privates. I have kids two of those FWIW. At most you'll have 10 gifted kids in your child's whole grade. They just don't screen for academics the way magnet programs do.

FCPS has the most comprehensive and inclusive gifted programs with many tiers at almost all levels of schooling with TJ being at the top.
MCPS has extremely high quality programs that are almost impossible to access with the new lottery changes for ES and MS. In HS most of the top kids rise to the top but you need more than giftedness to get to the HS magnets. You need to show achievement, effort, motivation. Everyone knows Blair is the best. You can't compare the others to Blair but RM, Poolesville, and Wheaton engineering are also very respected. There are other, smaller programs at many other schools like a leadership magnet somewhere and a few others. If you go with MCPS some high schools also have their own local gifted type programs that families like. I think one is called Apex.

FWIW because of the way Fairfax is set up there are many 2e kids in AAP and even TJ. MCPS screens out many kids with IEPs or 504s although you will find a few of them who are always chiming in on DCUM.

I'm confused- are there fewer spots available than before?

As a backup you could be sure your home ES offers enriched literacy and compacted math in 4th/5th.

The ES/MS programs stopped reserving spots for gifted kids.

DP. Is it an actual lottery? Or lottery as in very few spots so like a lottery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

The good privates will do their best to screen out 2E children. I echo what PP said about FCPS having some teachers who are very experienced with ASD, only in our ES those teachers tended to be gen ed.

This list is absurd, OP. No one other than this strange poster would rank schools for gifted kids like this. There are very few gifted kids in top privates. I have kids two of those FWIW. At most you'll have 10 gifted kids in your child's whole grade. They just don't screen for academics the way magnet programs do.

FCPS has the most comprehensive and inclusive gifted programs with many tiers at almost all levels of schooling with TJ being at the top.
MCPS has extremely high quality programs that are almost impossible to access with the new lottery changes for ES and MS. In HS most of the top kids rise to the top but you need more than giftedness to get to the HS magnets. You need to show achievement, effort, motivation. Everyone knows Blair is the best. You can't compare the others to Blair but RM, Poolesville, and Wheaton engineering are also very respected. There are other, smaller programs at many other schools like a leadership magnet somewhere and a few others. If you go with MCPS some high schools also have their own local gifted type programs that families like. I think one is called Apex.

FWIW because of the way Fairfax is set up there are many 2e kids in AAP and even TJ. MCPS screens out many kids with IEPs or 504s although you will find a few of them who are always chiming in on DCUM.

I'm confused- are there fewer spots available than before?

As a backup you could be sure your home ES offers enriched literacy and compacted math in 4th/5th.

The ES/MS programs stopped reserving spots for gifted kids.

DP. Is it an actual lottery? Or lottery as in very few spots so like a lottery?

DP. it's a quasi lottery, kind of like college admissions. You still need the stats, but just because you have higher stats doesn't mean you will be admitted over the lower stats student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

OP's DC is STEM oriented.

List should read:

1. TJ
2. Blair STEM magnet
3. Poolesville STEM magnet
4. RMIB

1 and 2 are same level
4 is actually above 3

#1 and #2 agree at same level, but not sure about RMIB being above Poolesville STEM magnet. And I say this as a parent of an RMIB magnet grad.

DC is STEM oriented, and took the highest level math courses, including IB HL Math and HL for physics.

But, I would've thought the STEM oriented program in Poolesville is much more STEM heavy than RMIB. I'm not saying RMIB STEM classes aren't hard. Just that the offerings are less at RMIB compared to Poolesville, I would've thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

OP's DC is STEM oriented.

List should read:

1. TJ
2. Blair STEM magnet
3. Poolesville STEM magnet
4. RMIB

1 and 2 are same level
4 is actually above 3

#1 and #2 agree at same level, but not sure about RMIB being above Poolesville STEM magnet. And I say this as a parent of an RMIB magnet grad.

DC is STEM oriented, and took the highest level math courses, including IB HL Math and HL for physics.

But, I would've thought the STEM oriented program in Poolesville is much more STEM heavy than RMIB. I'm not saying RMIB STEM classes aren't hard. Just that the offerings are less at RMIB compared to Poolesville, I would've thought.

DP but you're correct. Poolesville is above RM in STEM

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I realize you are looking for gifted programs. I just went through touring privates and we moved to McLean for their top schools not long ago. In my personal opinion, the best schools for the best students are as follows:

1. FCPS TJ
2. Big 3 Private - Sidwell, STA, NCS
3. MCPS - Richard Montgomery Magnet
4. Second tier Privates - Holton, Maret
4. MCPS - W schools
5. FCPS top schools - McLean, Langley, Oakton, Marshall

The good privates will do their best to screen out 2E children. I echo what PP said about FCPS having some teachers who are very experienced with ASD, only in our ES those teachers tended to be gen ed.

This list is absurd, OP. No one other than this strange poster would rank schools for gifted kids like this. There are very few gifted kids in top privates. I have kids two of those FWIW. At most you'll have 10 gifted kids in your child's whole grade. They just don't screen for academics the way magnet programs do.

FCPS has the most comprehensive and inclusive gifted programs with many tiers at almost all levels of schooling with TJ being at the top.
MCPS has extremely high quality programs that are almost impossible to access with the new lottery changes for ES and MS. In HS most of the top kids rise to the top but you need more than giftedness to get to the HS magnets. You need to show achievement, effort, motivation. Everyone knows Blair is the best. You can't compare the others to Blair but RM, Poolesville, and Wheaton engineering are also very respected. There are other, smaller programs at many other schools like a leadership magnet somewhere and a few others. If you go with MCPS some high schools also have their own local gifted type programs that families like. I think one is called Apex.

FWIW because of the way Fairfax is set up there are many 2e kids in AAP and even TJ. MCPS screens out many kids with IEPs or 504s although you will find a few of them who are always chiming in on DCUM.

I'm confused- are there fewer spots available than before?

As a backup you could be sure your home ES offers enriched literacy and compacted math in 4th/5th.

The ES/MS programs stopped reserving spots for gifted kids.

DP. Is it an actual lottery? Or lottery as in very few spots so like a lottery?

You need to have certain scores to make it into the pool, and then the pick from the pool is random. Unlike before when they tried to pick the best candidates from the pool.

[Anonymous]

An outside the box suggestion. Fauquier County has a strong gifted program and comparing it to time in Fairfax seems less rat race driven. It’s also smaller, and your child may benefit from that.

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