"The Ford all-electric F-150 is set to transform American car culture"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still uses fossil fuels, nuclear, and whatever is powering the electrical grid that it needs to run. So there's that.

You mean the solar panels on top of my house?

Kudos to you. I’d bet the majority of the buyers of this truck will not have all that free sunshine you’re getting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

Keep watching - I bet they will fix the range issue within a year or so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

If your use case is towing a 3 ton trailer at 65 mph you shouldn’t be surprised if you might need to wait for gen 2 (and you should consider whether 65 is even a safe speed to be towing a 3 ton trailer)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

If your use case is towing a 3 ton trailer at 65 mph you shouldn’t be surprised if you might need to wait for gen 2 (and you should consider whether 65 is even a safe speed to be towing a 3 ton trailer)

65 mph is a safe speed on the highway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

This thing is for the site managers and above. More likely, it will be bought by lawyers, doctors, finance bros, tech bros.... I doubt see any construction worker buying one of these things to use on a job site and I really dont see anyone buying them as fleet vehicles

Those are the same guys buying Model Xs.

So not really a game changer.

At least until it becomes more practical as a true work truck.

Most trucks sold in this price range are not work trucks- not many carpenters are lugging their equipment in the back of King Ranches. A lot of guys who think a Model X is a fancy minivan will buy these things. If it becomes acceptable as a truck, then it will be a game change.

The lower end model meant for fleet vehicles (and will also be sold to consumers) is $40K at 230 miles range. That is totally fine for vast majority of daily job site driving. Look at all the tradesmen in DC every day - very few are driving more than 100 miles in a day.

And they will def be bought as fleet vehicles, Especially facilities at hospitals, universities, medium sized industrial/warehouse sites, ports, airports, etc will love this. They have powerful grids and no longer have to worry about off-site fueling (though I'll admit, most will keep diesel/bunker/jet fuel on site for backup generation/industrial usage). My only quibble is a panel van version may be preferred, but the pickup isn't a terrible choice. Source: work at such a facility, but waiting for widespread availability first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

TBH, I'm not sure an EV appropriate for towing will be available for another 5 years. The battery tech isn't there yet to make it go a few hundred miles on a single charge while towing 3 tons. That's for any of the current EV manufacturers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

TBH, I'm not sure an EV appropriate for towing will be available for another 5 years. The battery tech isn't there yet to make it go a few hundred miles on a single charge while towing 3 tons. That's for any of the current EV manufacturers.

Wait and see what happens with the Cyber Truck.

Model X seems to be doing ok. 235 miles for 3200 lb trailer.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a40049535/tesla-model-x-bowlus-towing-test/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still uses fossil fuels, nuclear, and whatever is powering the electrical grid that it needs to run. So there's that.

You mean the solar panels on top of my house?

Do you have a battery to store solar energy?

Which state are you in?

The truck IS the battery, if you plug it in during the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

So then the realistic mileage is 275 & 190?

They are selling it as a power source. Power those tools?

Throw in some heavy equipment, a/c, and a 60 mile drive each way.

Could be cutting it close.

No the mileage is 300 with 2,000 pound in the bed. Without a load it’s likely 400 plus.

No one is getting 400+.

It’s 320 without the load. But that’s unrealistic for real-world driving.

They’ll be lucky to get 300.

Guess it won’t be used much for towing trailers.

That’s what we would use it for so we can get off the list now. We signed up as soon as the announcement came out, and our number is still not up. We have a standard F150 and love it I was just trying to be more earth conscious.

TBH, I'm not sure an EV appropriate for towing will be available for another 5 years. The battery tech isn't there yet to make it go a few hundred miles on a single charge while towing 3 tons. That's for any of the current EV manufacturers.

Wait and see what happens with the Cyber Truck.

Model X seems to be doing ok. 235 miles for 3200 lb trailer.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a40049535/tesla-model-x-bowlus-towing-test/

And probably only 120 miles when you do 6 tons, like in the Tweet above for the F-150 Lightening. That Model X is pulling only half the weight @ 3200 pounds!

[Anonymous]

I expect Ford will not be able to keep up with demand for a couple of years. As others noted, this version will not be great for towing large loads on a daily basis. Not a problem. Millions of people own Ford pickups and I'd be shocked if more than 10% of them towed 3 ton trailers once a month.

[Anonymous]

Agree. Have always appreciated Ford’s foresight on this and have had several of their EVs and hybrids. Will probably buy one of these

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still uses fossil fuels, nuclear, and whatever is powering the electrical grid that it needs to run. So there's that.

You mean the solar panels on top of my house?

Do you have a battery to store solar energy?

Which state are you in?

The truck IS the battery, if you plug it in during the day.

You store the power from your house solar panels in your truck battery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:320 miles for the extended range version isn't terrible. These trucks will be HEAVY.

230 miles for the normal version.

That is plenty of mileage for people who use them for work. And - let's get real - the first batch of these will be bought by rich people for driving around, not work.

First batch?? They have been out for a while.