VA voting - democrat thinking about not voting all blue

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Anonymous wrote:I’m voting for Spanberger and Miyares. I’m undecided on Hashmi and Reid.

To all the “Gloom and Doom Vote All Blue” people on this thread (although I suspect it’s only a couple of people posting over and over and over again) — I say this: Pick better candidates next time:

Spanberger: Meh

Hashmi: A notch below “meh” about which little is known except she’s not interested in debating her opponent - is she elitist, scared or both?

Jobes: Full-fledged disaster who has no business running and is likely doing more damage to the ticket than he realizes.

How can you even consider Reid?

Don’t blame the Dems if you choose MAGA. That’s 100% on you.

Because I live outside of the groupthink world and think for myself. Give it a try if you can.

You sound triggered. It’s ok, you’re probably white and reasonably well off, and MAGA isn’t coming for you or your kids yet. You still have the luxury of choice. Lots of good Germans made the same choices when they had the chance.

DP. Nonsense. Have you looked at MAGA lately? At those in positions of power? Plenty of non-whites there, and increasing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m voting for Spanberger and Miyares. I’m undecided on Hashmi and Reid.

To all the “Gloom and Doom Vote All Blue” people on this thread (although I suspect it’s only a couple of people posting over and over and over again) — I say this: Pick better candidates next time:

Spanberger: Meh

Hashmi: A notch below “meh” about which little is known except she’s not interested in debating her opponent - is she elitist, scared or both?

Jobes: Full-fledged disaster who has no business running and is likely doing more damage to the ticket than he realizes.

How can you even consider Reid?

Don’t blame the Dems if you choose MAGA. That’s 100% on you.

Because I live outside of the groupthink world and think for myself. Give it a try if you can.

You sound triggered. It’s ok, you’re probably white and reasonably well off, and MAGA isn’t coming for you or your kids yet. You still have the luxury of choice. Lots of good Germans made the same choices when they had the chance.

DP. Nonsense. Have you looked at MAGA lately? At those in positions of power? Plenty of non-whites there, and increasing.

Tokens get spent lol.

[Anonymous]

I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no confidence to in the GOP. Over the years I’ve lost confidence in the Democrats. I’m a cradle Democrat, but I’ve lost respect for the party and confidence in it. I’m tired of the one hair out of place and we’re kicking to the curb anyone who only agrees with 90-99% what whatever self-identifying Dem believes.

The Dems do not deserve my votes although they may get some. The message from them is clear. They care nothing about people only votes and cannot handle a diversity of opinions. They are no better than their major opposition. So, abstaining or splitting my ticket makes complete sense. I’m not going stay with a party that bullies me or others who may habit agree 100% on everything. If losing my vote leads to their loss, they too bad. They had their chance to listen, to welcome, etc. They exiled us. Live with it.

The good news for the Dems is that they will likely win in 2026 and 2028 because Trump is doing himself and MAGA in.

It’s not a popularity contest. You aren’t voting for people to make you feel good. You’re voting for officials who align best with your priorities. Either your priorities align with MAGA or they don’t. Either you want Trump to go unchecked or you don’t.

It’s not that deep.

Your parameters are wrong. A split ticket is what’s needed to align with my priorities.

So you do support MAGA. Got it.

I’m not at all. I can see you are not interested in anyone’s votes except purists.

Your bullying only reinforces my opinion that you’re no different from Trump supporters and that the Democrats cannot be fully trusted either.

Keep it up and you may lose more would-be straight ticket supporters in Virginia.

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If you vote MAGA, you literally do support MAGA.

It’s not that complicated.

+1. And if you don’t vote against MAGA, you support it. There’s no neutral ground here. Just reality. If you don’t care enough to stop MAGA, you will live under MAGA.

Does your tactic of calling these people maga actually do anything positive for the Dems?

Liar. No one called anyone MAGA.

Here is what was actually said:
“ If you vote MAGA, you literally do support MAGA. ”

“ If you don’t care enough to stop MAGA, you will live under MAGA.”

Both are 100% factual.

Fine. Des telling people if they don’t vote for the Dem candidate they are supporting MAGA actually change people’s minds?

It’s just a fact they should acknowledge instead of pretending like it’s some harmless decision.

Should we pretend like it’s ok for them to vote for MAGA? No, clearly we are in a fragile position with Trump going unchecked. It’s important for VA to have leaders who can fight back.

Again, I have only seen the tactic backfire.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no confidence to in the GOP. Over the years I’ve lost confidence in the Democrats. I’m a cradle Democrat, but I’ve lost respect for the party and confidence in it. I’m tired of the one hair out of place and we’re kicking to the curb anyone who only agrees with 90-99% what whatever self-identifying Dem believes.

The Dems do not deserve my votes although they may get some. The message from them is clear. They care nothing about people only votes and cannot handle a diversity of opinions. They are no better than their major opposition. So, abstaining or splitting my ticket makes complete sense. I’m not going stay with a party that bullies me or others who may habit agree 100% on everything. If losing my vote leads to their loss, they too bad. They had their chance to listen, to welcome, etc. They exiled us. Live with it.

The good news for the Dems is that they will likely win in 2026 and 2028 because Trump is doing himself and MAGA in.

It’s not a popularity contest. You aren’t voting for people to make you feel good. You’re voting for officials who align best with your priorities. Either your priorities align with MAGA or they don’t. Either you want Trump to go unchecked or you don’t.

It’s not that deep.

Your parameters are wrong. A split ticket is what’s needed to align with my priorities.

So you do support MAGA. Got it.

I’m not at all. I can see you are not interested in anyone’s votes except purists.

Your bullying only reinforces my opinion that you’re no different from Trump supporters and that the Democrats cannot be fully trusted either.

Keep it up and you may lose more would-be straight ticket supporters in Virginia.

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If you vote MAGA, you literally do support MAGA.

It’s not that complicated.

+1. And if you don’t vote against MAGA, you support it. There’s no neutral ground here. Just reality. If you don’t care enough to stop MAGA, you will live under MAGA.

Does your tactic of calling these people maga actually do anything positive for the Dems?

Liar. No one called anyone MAGA.

Here is what was actually said:
“ If you vote MAGA, you literally do support MAGA. ”

“ If you don’t care enough to stop MAGA, you will live under MAGA.”

Both are 100% factual.

Fine. Des telling people if they don’t vote for the Dem candidate they are supporting MAGA actually change people’s minds?

It’s just a fact they should acknowledge instead of pretending like it’s some harmless decision.

Should we pretend like it’s ok for them to vote for MAGA? No, clearly we are in a fragile position with Trump going unchecked. It’s important for VA to have leaders who can fight back.

Again, I have only seen the tactic backfire.

People who say this know it’s wrong, they are just looking to see if they’re alone or if multiple people are doing it so they can feel better about their choice. See, eg, Bernie Bros, Palestinians for Trump (Israel played you boy), etc.

I am convinced most of the “solid blue but voting MAGA this year” are just sock puppeting MAGA. You can demand better from your candidates and elected officials without handing over power to the guy who promises to do everything you’re against and will be accountable to no one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

Well done OP - glad you voted and didn’t opt out like some are saying they might do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

Thank you. This was not the time for a wasted protest vote.

Candidates needs to be sorted out much, much earlier in the process.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no confidence to in the GOP. Over the years I’ve lost confidence in the Democrats. I’m a cradle Democrat, but I’ve lost respect for the party and confidence in it. I’m tired of the one hair out of place and we’re kicking to the curb anyone who only agrees with 90-99% what whatever self-identifying Dem believes.

The Dems do not deserve my votes although they may get some. The message from them is clear. They care nothing about people only votes and cannot handle a diversity of opinions. They are no better than their major opposition. So, abstaining or splitting my ticket makes complete sense. I’m not going stay with a party that bullies me or others who may habit agree 100% on everything. If losing my vote leads to their loss, they too bad. They had their chance to listen, to welcome, etc. They exiled us. Live with it.

The good news for the Dems is that they will likely win in 2026 and 2028 because Trump is doing himself and MAGA in.

It’s not a popularity contest. You aren’t voting for people to make you feel good. You’re voting for officials who align best with your priorities. Either your priorities align with MAGA or they don’t. Either you want Trump to go unchecked or you don’t.

It’s not that deep.

Your parameters are wrong. A split ticket is what’s needed to align with my priorities.

So you do support MAGA. Got it.

I’m not at all. I can see you are not interested in anyone’s votes except purists.

Your bullying only reinforces my opinion that you’re no different from Trump supporters and that the Democrats cannot be fully trusted either.

Keep it up and you may lose more would-be straight ticket supporters in Virginia.

+1

If you vote MAGA, you literally do support MAGA.

It’s not that complicated.

+1. And if you don’t vote against MAGA, you support it. There’s no neutral ground here. Just reality. If you don’t care enough to stop MAGA, you will live under MAGA.

Does your tactic of calling these people maga actually do anything positive for the Dems?

Liar. No one called anyone MAGA.

Here is what was actually said:
“ If you vote MAGA, you literally do support MAGA. ”

“ If you don’t care enough to stop MAGA, you will live under MAGA.”

Both are 100% factual.

Fine. Des telling people if they don’t vote for the Dem candidate they are supporting MAGA actually change people’s minds?

It’s just a fact they should acknowledge instead of pretending like it’s some harmless decision.

Should we pretend like it’s ok for them to vote for MAGA? No, clearly we are in a fragile position with Trump going unchecked. It’s important for VA to have leaders who can fight back.

Again, I have only seen the tactic backfire.

People who say this know it’s wrong, they are just looking to see if they’re alone or if multiple people are doing it so they can feel better about their choice. See, eg, Bernie Bros, Palestinians for Trump (Israel played you boy), etc.

I am convinced most of the “solid blue but voting MAGA this year” are just sock puppeting MAGA. You can demand better from your candidates and elected officials without handing over power to the guy who promises to do everything you’re against and will be accountable to no one.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m voting for Spanberger and Miyares. I’m undecided on Hashmi and Reid.

To all the “Gloom and Doom Vote All Blue” people on this thread (although I suspect it’s only a couple of people posting over and over and over again) — I say this: Pick better candidates next time:

Spanberger: Meh

Hashmi: A notch below “meh” about which little is known except she’s not interested in debating her opponent - is she elitist, scared or both?

Jobes: Full-fledged disaster who has no business running and is likely doing more damage to the ticket than he realizes.

How can you even consider Reid?

Don’t blame the Dems if you choose MAGA. That’s 100% on you.

Because I live outside of the groupthink world and think for myself. Give it a try if you can.

You sound triggered. It’s ok, you’re probably white and reasonably well off, and MAGA isn’t coming for you or your kids yet. You still have the luxury of choice. Lots of good Germans made the same choices when they had the chance.

DP. Nonsense. Have you looked at MAGA lately? At those in positions of power? Plenty of non-whites there, and increasing.

LOL there are a few MAGA of color and when this is all done in 2028 they will be in cages too. When they come for me they come for thee is a saying for a reason.

You are living in a fantasy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m voting for Spanberger and Miyares. I’m undecided on Hashmi and Reid.

To all the “Gloom and Doom Vote All Blue” people on this thread (although I suspect it’s only a couple of people posting over and over and over again) — I say this: Pick better candidates next time:

Spanberger: Meh

Hashmi: A notch below “meh” about which little is known except she’s not interested in debating her opponent - is she elitist, scared or both?

Jobes: Full-fledged disaster who has no business running and is likely doing more damage to the ticket than he realizes.

How can you even consider Reid?

Don’t blame the Dems if you choose MAGA. That’s 100% on you.

Because I live outside of the groupthink world and think for myself. Give it a try if you can.

You sound triggered. It’s ok, you’re probably white and reasonably well off, and MAGA isn’t coming for you or your kids yet. You still have the luxury of choice. Lots of good Germans made the same choices when they had the chance.

DP. Nonsense. Have you looked at MAGA lately? At those in positions of power? Plenty of non-whites there, and increasing.

LOL there are a few MAGA of color and when this is all done in 2028 they will be in cages too. When they come for me they come for thee is a saying for a reason.

You are living in a fantasy.

PP is being hyperbolic, but we do see US citizens and legal residents being illegally detained today - simply because they appear Hispanic. Even some carrying their passport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

Well done OP - glad you voted and didn’t opt out like some are saying they might do.

yes, I had never done a write in or left a vote blank in my life (I'm 47), and I decided now is not the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

Well done OP - glad you voted and didn’t opt out like some are saying they might do.

yes, I had never done a write in or left a vote blank in my life (I'm 47), and I decided now is not the time.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

It still won’t save Jones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

It still won’t save Jones.

It isn’t over until it’s over. I haven’t voted yet but I’m a lock for Jones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP and I ended up voting all blue. As much as I dislike two of the candidates, the alternative is worse.

But PLEASE Dems, put up some better candidates. They must exist!

And I will keep researching all primary candidates as best I can.

Well done OP - glad you voted and didn’t opt out like some are saying they might do.

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