The Golden Bachelor

[Anonymous]

Lordy Mel is a dud. I do think it will be Cindy (the only one he actually makes out with?) but I don’t wish that for her.

[Anonymous]

Two theories on why he dropped Debbie.

1. Debbie's family was old. Cindy has 20-something kids. Peg has a 20-something daughter. Mel probably feels like his sons (18 and 20) fit more with women who have younger-adult kids/families.

and

2. It wouldn't surprise me if Mel plans to pick Cindy (not that he's really commited to anything), and he felt that between Peg and Debbie, it would be worse to put Debbie through being rejected at the last rose ceremony vs. Peg. Given how Debbie was so traumatized by her last relationship, if he thought he's probably picking Cindy in the end, he might think that Peg could weather the rejection better than Debbie.

Mel is very aloof. It was SO funny when Peg's daughter sat down with him and said "how are you feeling" -- Mel answers "Great!"

Peg's daughter askes again (trying to get him to open up for real) -- "No, really, how are you feeling about my mom?" Mel: "Good."

Way to go, Mel! He just doesn't have much emotional intelligence.

So, sad for the final "winner" -- likely Cindy -- she's in deep and she's going to find out that Mel is fool's gold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two theories on why he dropped Debbie.

1. Debbie's family was old. Cindy has 20-something kids. Peg has a 20-something daughter. Mel probably feels like his sons (18 and 20) fit more with women who have younger-adult kids/families.

and

2. It wouldn't surprise me if Mel plans to pick Cindy (not that he's really commited to anything), and he felt that between Peg and Debbie, it would be worse to put Debbie through being rejected at the last rose ceremony vs. Peg. Given how Debbie was so traumatized by her last relationship, if he thought he's probably picking Cindy in the end, he might think that Peg could weather the rejection better than Debbie.

Mel is very aloof. It was SO funny when Peg's daughter sat down with him and said "how are you feeling" -- Mel answers "Great!"

Peg's daughter askes again (trying to get him to open up for real) -- "No, really, how are you feeling about my mom?" Mel: "Good."

Way to go, Mel! He just doesn't have much emotional intelligence.

So, sad for the final "winner" -- likely Cindy -- she's in deep and she's going to find out that Mel is fool's gold.

Look, I'm cynical but it wouldn't surprise me if Debbie has zero money. She's never been married, and even semi-successful fitness instructors have limited opportunities to build wealth. She didn't take him home, likely because home is a small apartment. He clearly was impressed by Cindy's place, and I thought you could see him envisioning himself spending time there. I also think Mel is not an emotionally generous guy, and was not inclined to take on Debbie's issues stemming from her painful past. And no demonstrated ability to build a successful long-term relationship by age 65 is a pretty big red flag.
I would love to see Debbie meet a great guy, but something is up there. I hope taking a risk like she did here helps her open up more to other romantic possibilities, and build an audience for her business. Some ladies just have bad lucky and/or are bad pickers.

I think he enjoys Peg's fun, energetic personality but he doesn't seem attracted to her. She's an attractive lady, but does look older than the others and we know he cares about youthfulness.

I think, from Mel's perspective, Cindy is the whole package (she's also the youngest, at 60) and they'll wind up engaged. Will it last? Doubtful, but who knows.

[Anonymous]

I agree that Cindy seems like the best fit for Mel across the board. I hope he deserves her, but I am very skeptical of that man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two theories on why he dropped Debbie.

1. Debbie's family was old. Cindy has 20-something kids. Peg has a 20-something daughter. Mel probably feels like his sons (18 and 20) fit more with women who have younger-adult kids/families.

and

2. It wouldn't surprise me if Mel plans to pick Cindy (not that he's really commited to anything), and he felt that between Peg and Debbie, it would be worse to put Debbie through being rejected at the last rose ceremony vs. Peg. Given how Debbie was so traumatized by her last relationship, if he thought he's probably picking Cindy in the end, he might think that Peg could weather the rejection better than Debbie.

Mel is very aloof. It was SO funny when Peg's daughter sat down with him and said "how are you feeling" -- Mel answers "Great!"

Peg's daughter askes again (trying to get him to open up for real) -- "No, really, how are you feeling about my mom?" Mel: "Good."

Way to go, Mel! He just doesn't have much emotional intelligence.

So, sad for the final "winner" -- likely Cindy -- she's in deep and she's going to find out that Mel is fool's gold.

I thought the same thing about the age of the families. It is not Debbie’s fault, but when you think of future visits and holidays…there is just more life in mixed generations (including grandchildren eventually).

I disagree though about Mel being aloof.
Maybe he just has integrity. He knows he will reject at least two of the women (and perhaps decide to date rather than marry the third). It would be wrong to lead all the relatives on.

Not to mention, the producers probably require them to mask their true favorite until the “the final rose.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two theories on why he dropped Debbie.

1. Debbie's family was old. Cindy has 20-something kids. Peg has a 20-something daughter. Mel probably feels like his sons (18 and 20) fit more with women who have younger-adult kids/families.

and

2. It wouldn't surprise me if Mel plans to pick Cindy (not that he's really commited to anything), and he felt that between Peg and Debbie, it would be worse to put Debbie through being rejected at the last rose ceremony vs. Peg. Given how Debbie was so traumatized by her last relationship, if he thought he's probably picking Cindy in the end, he might think that Peg could weather the rejection better than Debbie.

Mel is very aloof. It was SO funny when Peg's daughter sat down with him and said "how are you feeling" -- Mel answers "Great!"

Peg's daughter askes again (trying to get him to open up for real) -- "No, really, how are you feeling about my mom?" Mel: "Good."

Way to go, Mel! He just doesn't have much emotional intelligence.

So, sad for the final "winner" -- likely Cindy -- she's in deep and she's going to find out that Mel is fool's gold.

Look, I'm cynical but it wouldn't surprise me if Debbie has zero money. She's never been married, and even semi-successful fitness instructors have limited opportunities to build wealth. She didn't take him home, likely because home is a small apartment. He clearly was impressed by Cindy's place, and I thought you could see him envisioning himself spending time there. I also think Mel is not an emotionally generous guy, and was not inclined to take on Debbie's issues stemming from her painful past. And no demonstrated ability to build a successful long-term relationship by age 65 is a pretty big red flag.
I would love to see Debbie meet a great guy, but something is up there. I hope taking a risk like she did here helps her open up more to other romantic possibilities, and build an audience for her business. Some ladies just have bad lucky and/or are bad pickers.

I think he enjoys Peg's fun, energetic personality but he doesn't seem attracted to her. She's an attractive lady, but does look older than the others and we know he cares about youthfulness.

I think, from Mel's perspective, Cindy is the whole package (she's also the youngest, at 60) and they'll wind up engaged. Will it last? Doubtful, but who knows.

I do think Debbie sharing that extremely heavy baggage on the home visit was a questionable strategy. But perhaps she thought it would explain why she has not paired off. I think it probably ruined the vibe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two theories on why he dropped Debbie.

1. Debbie's family was old. Cindy has 20-something kids. Peg has a 20-something daughter. Mel probably feels like his sons (18 and 20) fit more with women who have younger-adult kids/families.

and

2. It wouldn't surprise me if Mel plans to pick Cindy (not that he's really commited to anything), and he felt that between Peg and Debbie, it would be worse to put Debbie through being rejected at the last rose ceremony vs. Peg. Given how Debbie was so traumatized by her last relationship, if he thought he's probably picking Cindy in the end, he might think that Peg could weather the rejection better than Debbie.

Mel is very aloof. It was SO funny when Peg's daughter sat down with him and said "how are you feeling" -- Mel answers "Great!"

Peg's daughter askes again (trying to get him to open up for real) -- "No, really, how are you feeling about my mom?" Mel: "Good."

Way to go, Mel! He just doesn't have much emotional intelligence.

So, sad for the final "winner" -- likely Cindy -- she's in deep and she's going to find out that Mel is fool's gold.

Look, I'm cynical but it wouldn't surprise me if Debbie has zero money. She's never been married, and even semi-successful fitness instructors have limited opportunities to build wealth. She didn't take him home, likely because home is a small apartment. He clearly was impressed by Cindy's place, and I thought you could see him envisioning himself spending time there. I also think Mel is not an emotionally generous guy, and was not inclined to take on Debbie's issues stemming from her painful past. And no demonstrated ability to build a successful long-term relationship by age 65 is a pretty big red flag.
I would love to see Debbie meet a great guy, but something is up there. I hope taking a risk like she did here helps her open up more to other romantic possibilities, and build an audience for her business. Some ladies just have bad lucky and/or are bad pickers.

I think he enjoys Peg's fun, energetic personality but he doesn't seem attracted to her. She's an attractive lady, but does look older than the others and we know he cares about youthfulness.

I think, from Mel's perspective, Cindy is the whole package (she's also the youngest, at 60) and they'll wind up engaged. Will it last? Doubtful, but who knows.

I do think Debbie sharing that extremely heavy baggage on the home visit was a questionable strategy. But perhaps she thought it would explain why she has not paired off. I think it probably ruined the vibe.

Mel is not a high EQ kind of guy, seems quite limited. I worry about anyone who ends up with him tbh.

[Anonymous]

Reality Steve has the engagement spoiler on Insta. Happy, because I don’t want to watch anymore! I don’t even want to see the reunion with the ladies, who don’t have the personality and chemistry of the OG ladies.

Just remember, all kinds of deceptive editing on this show to mislead us. I also think it’s clear who will be the next golden bachelorette. I hope she gets much better options than Mel. If the franchise continues, which is not a sure thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reality Steve has the engagement spoiler on Insta. Happy, because I don’t want to watch anymore! I don’t even want to see the reunion with the ladies, who don’t have the personality and chemistry of the OG ladies.

Just remember, all kinds of deceptive editing on this show to mislead us. I also think it’s clear who will be the next golden bachelorette. I hope she gets much better options than Mel. If the franchise continues, which is not a sure thing.

Thanks for the heads up. Then again... perhaps he sees her as requiring less effort, less emotion.

[Anonymous]

Good to know. Once RS’s spoilers hit, word spreads quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality Steve has the engagement spoiler on Insta. Happy, because I don’t want to watch anymore! I don’t even want to see the reunion with the ladies, who don’t have the personality and chemistry of the OG ladies.

Just remember, all kinds of deceptive editing on this show to mislead us. I also think it’s clear who will be the next golden bachelorette. I hope she gets much better options than Mel. If the franchise continues, which is not a sure thing.

Thanks for the heads up. Then again... perhaps he sees her as requiring less effort, less emotion.

Good point. He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who appreciates someone challenging him emotionally. I also don’t think he really wants to get married again, just wants to have a little fun with a nice person.

[Anonymous]

Debbie has incredible skin for 65. Do we think she’s had a face lift or just great genes plus a little Botox? And no weight fluctuations.

[Anonymous]

I think she hasn't been exposed to so much sun damage compared to Peg. Debbie is from Wisconsin -- less intense sun. Peg is from Las Vegas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think she hasn't been exposed to so much sun damage compared to Peg. Debbie is from Wisconsin -- less intense sun. Peg is from Las Vegas.

Peg looks so much older than the other two, definitely did not take care of her skin. I thought for sure she wouldn’t be the one for this reason, despite her great, energetic personality.

[Anonymous]

So Debbie is spilling the tea.

Mel still lives with his 18 yr old son and 20 yr old son. No exactly the kind of arrangement the golden women are looking for. I know I wouldn't want to deal with 20 yr old boys when I'm 65 -- especially if they aren't mine.

And she thinks Mel wasn't into her b/c she isn't into football as much as Cindy and Peg.

Mel is very superficial (no shock). And didn't even give the vibes that he was really looking to connect. Mel is going to find Cindy's emotional attachment to be too much to carry. Peg is the fun-girlfriend. That's his speed.

https://www.glamour.com/story/the-golden-bachelor-debbie-siebers-on-mel-owens-break-up