TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

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Anonymous wrote:There’s this strange implication that “wealth” is somehow separate from ability. And we are really just talking MC/UMC here. But it’s true that intelligence is a heritable trait. And it takes a bit of intelligence and hard work to be MC/UMC. This is no secret.

Sorry but people with money aren’t just a bunch of idiots with inheritances. And there aren’t a whole bunch of poor geniuses.

Kids who were admitted under the old TJ admissions process were mostly not prodigies. Plop those same kids into economically-disadvantaged families at birth and it's very unlikely that most would still end up at TJ.

And yet you have schools like stuyvesant, bronx science and brooklyn tech where most of the students are in fact from poor families.

NYC has a different admissions environment/process.

For TJ, less than 1% of the class of 2024 came from economically-disadvantaged families.

Yes, in NYC admissions is based purely on an admissions test.

They don't care that you can transcribe the compelling prepared essay about the the summer you spent at a robotics camp that ignited your passion for stem.

And frankly the FARM percentage is not really relevant. TJ is not an anti-poverty program.
If poor kids are not being prepared, then your problem is with to the people who are supposed to be preparing them, not the people that are pointing out that they are not prepared.

TJ serves the whole community, not just the families who have the means to game the system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s this strange implication that “wealth” is somehow separate from ability. And we are really just talking MC/UMC here. But it’s true that intelligence is a heritable trait. And it takes a bit of intelligence and hard work to be MC/UMC. This is no secret.

Sorry but people with money aren’t just a bunch of idiots with inheritances. And there aren’t a whole bunch of poor geniuses.

Kids who were admitted under the old TJ admissions process were mostly not prodigies. Plop those same kids into economically-disadvantaged families at birth and it's very unlikely that most would still end up at TJ.

And yet you have schools like stuyvesant, bronx science and brooklyn tech where most of the students are in fact from poor families.

NYC has a different admissions environment/process.

For TJ, less than 1% of the class of 2024 came from economically-disadvantaged families.

Yes, in NYC admissions is based purely on an admissions test.

They don't care that you can transcribe the compelling prepared essay about the the summer you spent at a robotics camp that ignited your passion for stem.

And frankly the FARM percentage is not really relevant. TJ is not an anti-poverty program.
If poor kids are not being prepared, then your problem is with to the people who are supposed to be preparing them, not the people that are pointing out that they are not prepared.

TJ serves the whole community, not just the families who have the means to game the system.

TJ is not meant to serve a cross section of fairfax any more than any competitive endeavor is supposed to represent a cross section of the general population.
TJ is supposed to serve the smartest most advanced students in fairfax and the new admissions process ensures that many of the spots are taken by underprepared kids.

The more you try to equate studying with 'gaming the system' the more you reveal the intellectual bankruptcy of your position.
Before they changed to the quant q test in the hopes of reducing the asian population, they used a version of the SHSAT, the test that stuyvesant, bronx science and brooklyn tech (collectively, the science schools) use as the SOLE determinant of their admissions. The test selects the smart kids.
The science schools in NYC also had very few URM so even though the students were majority FARM students, they still tried to change the admissions process and eliminate the test in large part because what they thought it implied about which communities were smart.

The smartest kids are not evenly distributed across every community.
They're not born that way, they become that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s this strange implication that “wealth” is somehow separate from ability. And we are really just talking MC/UMC here. But it’s true that intelligence is a heritable trait. And it takes a bit of intelligence and hard work to be MC/UMC. This is no secret.

Sorry but people with money aren’t just a bunch of idiots with inheritances. And there aren’t a whole bunch of poor geniuses.

Kids who were admitted under the old TJ admissions process were mostly not prodigies. Plop those same kids into economically-disadvantaged families at birth and it's very unlikely that most would still end up at TJ.

And yet you have schools like stuyvesant, bronx science and brooklyn tech where most of the students are in fact from poor families.

NYC has a different admissions environment/process.

For TJ, less than 1% of the class of 2024 came from economically-disadvantaged families.

TJ is not an anti=poverty program.

TJ has gone from admitting 25% FARM students for the class of 2025 to 10% for the most recent incoming class. I suspect they will try to keep it at 10% but I don't think aiming for demographic results is as good as aiming for academic results.