SAHMs - what made you decide to SAH? Question from new SAHM

[Anonymous]

Does anyone posting on this thread have children older than age 5? Hate to tell you ladies but the older the kids get, the less SAH or WOH matter.

[Anonymous]

"Teacher's have specialized content knowledge and training, that renders them more capable of teaching academic content than I do. "

Obviously. Strike the apostrophe in the first line...

Have you read the many post of teachers where they make fools of themselves? In this very thread?

[Anonymous]

Teacher's have specialized content knowledge and training, that renders them more capable of teaching academic content than I do. Daycare workers are not capable of providing the love, concern, moral guidance towards my child that I would.

Interesting, I would argue the exact opposite is true. Daycare workers are absolutely capable of providing love, concern, and moral guidance. Many teachers, daycare workers and others who work with children really love truly, have the gift of patience, and are very concerned about the kids under their care.

Teachers are often not the brightest bulbs on the bush. They can be caring, love kids, and be dedicated but sadly this profession just does not attract the smartest people. Teachers tend to have been the C students and the ones who could only get into a less competitive school. The education programs in most universities are not very rigorous. I don't think homeschooling is the answer but until we pay teachers more we will continue having mediocre at best people teaching our kids.

[Anonymous]

Heads up to some of the people who enjoy feeling superior by picking out other's grammar mistakes. Very few people take the time to proofread when they type emails or post in online forums. It's not a matter of being uneducated or stupid, as you seem to believe and take such delight in pointing out. Most of us are just trying to shoot something off as quick as possible and don't really care if there are some spelling mistakes or typos.

[Anonymous]

"Teachers are often not the brightest bulbs on the bush."

No shit!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Teacher's have specialized content knowledge and training, that renders them more capable of teaching academic content than I do. Daycare workers are not capable of providing the love, concern, moral guidance towards my child that I would.

Interesting, I would argue the exact opposite is true. Daycare workers are absolutely capable of providing love, concern, and moral guidance. Many teachers, daycare workers and others who work with children really love truly, have the gift of patience, and are very concerned about the kids under their care.

Teachers are often not the brightest bulbs on the bush. They can be caring, love kids, and be dedicated but sadly this profession just does not attract the smartest people. Teachers tend to have been the C students and the ones who could only get into a less competitive school. The education programs in most universities are not very rigorous. I don't think homeschooling is the answer but until we pay teachers more we will continue having mediocre at best people teaching our kids.

I worked in a daycare myself when I was in college, and I do agree that most daycare workers do enjoy children and are sincerely concerned with providing quality care. The point is that when it comes right down to it, it's just a job for them. They may like/enjoy your kids, but they don't love them, and there is a difference in the care that is provided by someone who truly loves a child, versus someone who just feels a bit of affection for them.

I should probably let your second point go, since this is really getting off topic...but the comment you made about teachers is a pet peeve of mine. Yes, it is true that education is not a rigorous program and it is easier to get into than some other majors. SO THE F*** WHAT!!! People become teachers because the job appeals to them, not because they couldn't hack a harder degree. Ok, so perhaps a few people became teachers for that reason, but I'm sure there's VERY few of them. Can you truly not see how a person might be drawn to becoming a teacher? Just because a person has the ability to major in something more difficult doesn't mean there going to; and seriously, it doesn't take a MENSA worthy iq to major in Marketing and they don't get the same demeaning comments that teachers do.

[Anonymous]

I want our daycare workers to regard caring for my children as "just their job." That's the whole point. Unless you think you can't care because it's just a job. Why does a daycare worker have to love a child like a parent to provide good care?

Love doesn't equal skill or experience.

The point about teachers not being that smart is to further discount their stupid personal observations in their classrooms as fodder for decisions to SAH or WOH.

[Anonymous]

ETA, my husband struggled between the decision to major in Social Work and Physics. Ultimately, he decided on Social Work, not because Physics was too difficult, but because he decided that he was more concerned about making a difference in society, (He's a liberal, hippy at heart). It is seriously annoying in the extreme to hear smug idiots assume that anyone who did not major in one of maybe seven majors, did so because of their cognitive shortcomings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want our daycare workers to regard caring for my children as "just their job." That's the whole point. Unless you think you can't care because it's just a job. Why does a daycare worker have to love a child like a parent to provide good care?

Love doesn't equal skill or experience.

The point about teachers not being that smart is to further discount their stupid personal observations in their classrooms as fodder for decisions to SAH or WOH.

Your an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Why am I an idiot? At least I know you should have used "you're." Tee hee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why am I an idiot? At least I know you should have used "you're." Tee hee.

Your EXCUSE ME you're an idiot because you discount as STUPID the personal observations that teachers in this forum have made. Obviously, if anyone has an opinion regarding sah or wm that differs from yours it's flat out illogical. Read back through this forum. None of the SAHM's criticized WM's. Things didn't start getting nasty until a WM started attacking the teacher for giving her reason for staying home based on her own PERSONAL experience. This teacher did say, in case you failed to notice, that she didn't know if it was true across the board. The SAHM's who have answered have not been criticizing WM's. They have merely been defending/questioning the working mom's who have attacked them for basically answering the question that the OP asked.

[Anonymous]

ETA, my husband struggled between the decision to major in Social Work and Physics. Ultimately, he decided on Social Work, not because Physics was too difficult, but because he decided that he was more concerned about making a difference in society, (He's a liberal, hippy at heart). It is seriously annoying in the extreme to hear smug idiots assume that anyone who did not major in one of maybe seven majors, did so because of their cognitive shortcomings.

Your husband is the exception not the norm. I know that we WANT to believe teachers are wonderful and many are very caring, good people. However, the majority of K-12 teachers are not very smart or were not academically motivated when they were in school. If you look honestly at your children's teachers this is pretty obvious.

[Anonymous]

I discount any personal observation that has absolutely no informative value. That teacher had no way of knowing which kids had a stay at home parent or not, as parents can and do change work status over time. Her observation also occurred in a less affluent area. Those two reasons alone are sufficient for anyone reading to discount them as having any value whatsoever to a person trying to decide whether to SAH or not. Do you disagree? Why did you decide to SAH?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why am I an idiot? At least I know you should have used "you're." Tee hee.

Your EXCUSE ME you're an idiot because you discount as STUPID the personal observations that teachers in this forum have made. Obviously, if anyone has an opinion regarding sah or wm that differs from yours it's flat out illogical. Read back through this forum. None of the SAHM's criticized WM's. Things didn't start getting nasty until a WM started attacking the teacher for giving her reason for staying home based on her own PERSONAL experience. This teacher did say, in case you failed to notice, that she didn't know if it was true across the board. The SAHM's who have answered have not been criticizing WM's. They have merely been defending/questioning the working mom's who have attacked them for basically answering the question that the OP asked.

[Anonymous]

Your EXCUSE ME you're an idiot because you discount as STUPID the personal observations that teachers in this forum have made.

I can see why a teacher would *feel* like the kids of SAHMs are superior. In reality, these will not be the kids necessarily going on to the top 25 schools or becoming doctors, lawyers, scientists etc. Teachers are human and it is natural for them to favor the kids' whose parents are in the school volunteering more and helping the teacher out. Many schools just do not have the budget to hire assistants or attract great talent so the teacher who may already be in over her head is very dependent on the mom helpers. The anecdotes are more a form of masked favoritism which is understandable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I discount any personal observation that has absolutely no informative value. That teacher had no way of knowing which kids had a stay at home parent or not, as parents can and do change work status over time. Her observation also occurred in a less affluent area. Those two reasons alone are sufficient for anyone reading to discount them as having any value whatsoever to a person trying to decide whether to SAH or not. Do you disagree? Why did you decide to SAH?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why am I an idiot? At least I know you should have used "you're." Tee hee.

Your EXCUSE ME you're an idiot because you discount as STUPID the personal observations that teachers in this forum have made. Obviously, if anyone has an opinion regarding sah or wm that differs from yours it's flat out illogical. Read back through this forum. None of the SAHM's criticized WM's. Things didn't start getting nasty until a WM started attacking the teacher for giving her reason for staying home based on her own PERSONAL experience. This teacher did say, in case you failed to notice, that she didn't know if it was true across the board. The SAHM's who have answered have not been criticizing WM's. They have merely been defending/questioning the working mom's who have attacked them for basically answering the question that the OP asked.

There was more than one teacher who answered. You're mixing up their responses. One of the teachers mentioned that she taught in a less affluent area. The other said she knew that work status of her top students' moms because she had gotten to know them well. She also said that she had no idea of the work status of her other students' moms.