Can I ask for payment?

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).

I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.

Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.

Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.

Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.

Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?

They did pay and I don’t have any reasoning to think that their reason for not paying was anything like the reasoning or the poster who thinks I should maybe let them sleep in my room. I think it is more likely that forgot, or mom and dad each thought the other paid or
something like that.

Your son should have slept in your room and the three other boys share.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.

Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.

Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.

Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!

I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.

There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!

Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.

What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!

No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.

It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol

I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.

My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.

What does your kid do when they go on school trips or they don't go? Its pretty common to do four kids to a room. Given what they charge it should be two kids to a room but you pay for the teachers and their favorite parents as chaperones, and a huge fee to the company arranging it.

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Anonymous wrote:How did you not discuss this ahead of time? You were wrong not to, and the other kids’ parents were wrong not to offer. If you need the money, ask, if not chalk it up to a life experience. How many rooms were there? It’s a little dodgier if they weren’t all in your room or the room the other kid paid for.

15 - 17 year olds. The two kids who didn’t pay shared a room. My plan was that my kid would stay in my room, but the kid who paid offered him the other bed in his room.

So you paid for one room, which you stayed in. Another kid paid for the other room, which all the boys stayed in. Why should the other kid pay YOU for that room then?

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand why you needed a hotel room for the kids? Didn’t you drop off the kids and get a room for you before you drove home?

Camp was a 7 hour drive with an 8 a.m. arrival time, and no overnight option between day 1 and day 2. So we stayed in a hotel before day 1 and between day 1 and day 2.

It seems like in order to attend the camp the kids had to stay in a hotel, is that correct? So it's a day camp but out of town.

If one boy paid for a room, how do you know that the other boy didn't pay him for half of it?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.

Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.

Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.

Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!

I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.

There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!

Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.

What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!

No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.

It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol

I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.

My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.

What does your kid do when they go on school trips or they don't go? Its pretty common to do four kids to a room. Given what they charge it should be two kids to a room but you pay for the teachers and their favorite parents as chaperones, and a huge fee to the company arranging it.

OP here, not the PP you responded to.

Unless the other kids were close friends, my kid would probably sleep on the floor on a trip with shard beds. Which is fine, unless it was something where he needed to be physically performing at a high level the next day. If it was I would ask about paying for an extra room.

And of course teachers get paid, and their expenses covered when they go on overnight trips. Other professionals get paid when they are on travel too.

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand why you needed a hotel room for the kids? Didn’t you drop off the kids and get a room for you before you drove home?

Camp was a 7 hour drive with an 8 a.m. arrival time, and no overnight option between day 1 and day 2. So we stayed in a hotel before day 1 and between day 1 and day 2.

It seems like in order to attend the camp the kids had to stay in a hotel, is that correct? So it's a day camp but out of town.

If one boy paid for a room, how do you know that the other boy didn't pay him for half of it?

Yes, we had to stay in a hotel.

The other kid in the paid for room, was mine. We did offer to pay, and that kid, either as a thank you for driving him 18 hours, or because he realized it was an extra expense, declined. The two kids who I was worried about asking (who did eventually pay), were in a different room I paid for.

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Anonymous wrote:How did you not discuss this ahead of time? You were wrong not to, and the other kids’ parents were wrong not to offer. If you need the money, ask, if not chalk it up to a life experience. How many rooms were there? It’s a little dodgier if they weren’t all in your room or the room the other kid paid for.

15 - 17 year olds. The two kids who didn’t pay shared a room. My plan was that my kid would stay in my room, but the kid who paid offered him the other bed in his room.

So you paid for one room, which you stayed in. Another kid paid for the other room, which all the boys stayed in. Why should the other kid pay YOU for that room then?

I paid for one room.

Another kid paid for a room and asked my kid to share.

The other kids were in a room by themselves, not in the room my kid shared.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).

I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.

Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.

Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.

Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.

Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?

They did pay and I don’t have any reasoning to think that their reason for not paying was anything like the reasoning or the poster who thinks I should maybe let them sleep in my room. I think it is more likely that forgot, or mom and dad each thought the other paid or
something like that.

That’s great news. I’m glad you got your money. So this whole thread was a giant lesson in direct communication. Be direct upfront and direct with reminders when people don’t pay. I can see how each parent thought the other paid.

There were no choosy beggars. Sorry to disappoint that poster.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.

Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.

Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.

Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!

I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.

There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!

Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.

What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!

No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.

It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol

I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.

My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.

What does your kid do when they go on school trips or they don't go? Its pretty common to do four kids to a room. Given what they charge it should be two kids to a room but you pay for the teachers and their favorite parents as chaperones, and a huge fee to the company arranging it.

They’ve never had to put 4 kids in a hotel room for school trips, but I’d gladly pay for a full bed so he won’t share. I can’t imagine what that hotel room with 4 teens in it would look like. Unless it’s his best friend, he doesn’t want to share the room either, because kids tend to stay up late and he hates that, he’s a morning person, up at 6 am. On camping school trips he got his own two person tent, and he loved it.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).

I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.

Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.

Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.

Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.

Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?

They did pay and I don’t have any reasoning to think that their reason for not paying was anything like the reasoning or the poster who thinks I should maybe let them sleep in my room. I think it is more likely that forgot, or mom and dad each thought the other paid or
something like that.

Your son should have slept in your room and the three other boys share.

Not everyone wants to share beds. If that’s your expectation, you’ve got to say it to the chaperone parent before the trip. It’s one bed per person. If the other kid wanted a separate arrangement and paid for his room, are you going to override and bring the two other kids he didn’t want in? My kid would call me right away and you’ll get an earful. The hotel won’t issue another room key without his permission anyways so that would pretty much settle it, because the other two kids will be locked out. But before getting there, why would you even propose it? You can’t just save money at the expense of other families.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.

Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.

Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.

Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!

I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.

There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!

Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.

What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!

No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.

It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol

I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.

My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.

What does your kid do when they go on school trips or they don't go? Its pretty common to do four kids to a room. Given what they charge it should be two kids to a room but you pay for the teachers and their favorite parents as chaperones, and a huge fee to the company arranging it.

They’ve never had to put 4 kids in a hotel room for school trips, but I’d gladly pay for a full bed so he won’t share. I can’t imagine what that hotel room with 4 teens in it would look like. Unless it’s his best friend, he doesn’t want to share the room either, because kids tend to stay up late and he hates that, he’s a morning person, up at 6 am. On camping school trips he got his own two person tent, and he loved it.

DP but what school does your kid attend? Mine have always had 4 to a room for every school trip and every travel sports team. They go to FCPS and have been on different club teams for sports, all involving travel. 4 in a room, 2 in a bed or 1 sleeps on a floor or couch if they don’t want to share.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).

I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.

Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.

Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.

Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.

Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?

They did pay and I don’t have any reasoning to think that their reason for not paying was anything like the reasoning or the poster who thinks I should maybe let them sleep in my room. I think it is more likely that forgot, or mom and dad each thought the other paid or
something like that.

Given the level of interest this thread has attracted, can you provide a more detailed update OP?

Were the parents apologetic about having neglected to offer up payment sooner or nonchalant? Did they only cover the cost of their child’s half of a room or did they chip in extra towards gas, meals, etc?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.

Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.

Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.

Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!

I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.

There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!

Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.

What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!

No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.

It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol

I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.

My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.

What does your kid do when they go on school trips or they don't go? Its pretty common to do four kids to a room. Given what they charge it should be two kids to a room but you pay for the teachers and their favorite parents as chaperones, and a huge fee to the company arranging it.

They’ve never had to put 4 kids in a hotel room for school trips, but I’d gladly pay for a full bed so he won’t share. I can’t imagine what that hotel room with 4 teens in it would look like. Unless it’s his best friend, he doesn’t want to share the room either, because kids tend to stay up late and he hates that, he’s a morning person, up at 6 am. On camping school trips he got his own two person tent, and he loved it.

DP but what school does your kid attend? Mine have always had 4 to a room for every school trip and every travel sports team. They go to FCPS and have been on different club teams for sports, all involving travel. 4 in a room, 2 in a bed or 1 sleeps on a floor or couch if they don’t want to share.

Public school. If the room is $200, then it’s $100 per kid if it sleeps 2, or $50 per kid if it sleeps 4. Saving $50 a night is not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).

I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.

Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.

Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.

Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.

Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?

They did pay and I don’t have any reasoning to think that their reason for not paying was anything like the reasoning or the poster who thinks I should maybe let them sleep in my room. I think it is more likely that forgot, or mom and dad each thought the other paid or
something like that.

Your son should have slept in your room and the three other boys share.

Not everyone wants to share beds. If that’s your expectation, you’ve got to say it to the chaperone parent before the trip. It’s one bed per person. If the other kid wanted a separate arrangement and paid for his room, are you going to override and bring the two other kids he didn’t want in? My kid would call me right away and you’ll get an earful. The hotel won’t issue another room key without his permission anyways so that would pretty much settle it, because the other two kids will be locked out. But before getting there, why would you even propose it? You can’t just save money at the expense of other families.

This.

Kind of weird for the choosy beggars to assume OP could do whatever she wanted with the room the other kid paid for. She didn’t pay for the room then she, or any other parent or teen, has no say in who sleeps there. That’s not even up for discussion.

OP did the right thing to get another room for the other two boys.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.

Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.

Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.

Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!

I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.

There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!

Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.

What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!

No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.

It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol

I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.

My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.

What does your kid do when they go on school trips or they don't go? Its pretty common to do four kids to a room. Given what they charge it should be two kids to a room but you pay for the teachers and their favorite parents as chaperones, and a huge fee to the company arranging it.

They’ve never had to put 4 kids in a hotel room for school trips, but I’d gladly pay for a full bed so he won’t share. I can’t imagine what that hotel room with 4 teens in it would look like. Unless it’s his best friend, he doesn’t want to share the room either, because kids tend to stay up late and he hates that, he’s a morning person, up at 6 am. On camping school trips he got his own two person tent, and he loved it.

DP but what school does your kid attend? Mine have always had 4 to a room for every school trip and every travel sports team. They go to FCPS and have been on different club teams for sports, all involving travel. 4 in a room, 2 in a bed or 1 sleeps on a floor or couch if they don’t want to share.

Public school. If the room is $200, then it’s $100 per kid if it sleeps 2, or $50 per kid if it sleeps 4. Saving $50 a night is not worth it.

But on a school or club trip it’s not up to you. Four to a room is the default and there’s no way to opt out. Also for a 5 day trip which is common for my kid it’s a $250 difference