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Anonymous
People believe this is because the prep centers built detailed question banks by debriefing students from previous years and the county randomly reused these same questions. At least that's how most account for students who reported seeing the questions early. |
Anonymous
Yes! Everyone who is serious about getting their kid into TJ does this. |
Anonymous
We are not at a TJ crazed feeder school. With the new each MS gets seats approach I worry less about the people still prepping. That is now an issue within a given MS mainly. |
Anonymous
That's great news! |
Anonymous
It is going to be an issues at most of the AAP Centers because there are more kids at those schools that are TJ focused then non-Center MS. I also think that there is more TJ conversation at the Center schools so you end up with kids applying that maybe wouldn't at other schools because they have classmates applying. |
Anonymous
Fair. Shifting the focus to base MS not attended MS is one of the reasonable tweaks they should make to the new system. |
Anonymous
We disagree. Kids should be considered based on the school that they choose. If you want to attend the base because of the different clubs and the larger cohort then go for it but understand that will change your TJ prospects. Your less likely to get the 1.5% slot but you are more likely to get one of the at large spots. You are choosing the benefits of attending a Center over staying at your base. Maybe there is a point bump for kids who attend the Center as their base school to reflect that they are forced into a more competitive TJ system but kids who are moving from their base to the Center are doing so with the knowledge that they are choosing specific benefits. |
Anonymous
Most kids don't have a choice. They are zoned to a center and thus must attend. This has been explained repeatedly in this forum? Why are you too dim witted to grasp this simple concept? |
Anonymous
If TJ is that important to them or their families, they can move. Done. |
Anonymous
Yes, and it is easier to do than to coach kids in math, though perhaps the admissions office then weeds out what looks like a prepped essay. |
Anonymous
They're not psychics. There's no way that they can detect kids who have been heavily coached based on some pretty generic essays. If they truly wanted to get rid of the kids who are heavily prepped but not very remarkable, they wouldn't have eliminated teacher recommendations. |
Anonymous
teacher recommendations would have little to no impact on that since many heavily prepped kids present as gifted but have to work harder than others to keep up which isn't obvious since teachers have no idea how much kids study |
Anonymous
What part of it is ok to disagree do you not understand? People are allowed to hold different opinions and do not have to change to your world view because that suits you. |
Anonymous
Apparently, you're also too dim to understand the difference between facts and opinions. It is your opinion that kids ought to be evaluated based on attending school. That's fine as an opinion. It's also apparently your opinion that kids can choose their school. You stated that "kids should be considered based on the school they choose." You also stated that kids are "[b]choosing the benefits of a center over staying at the base." This "opinion" is factually incorrect and thus not valid as an opinion. It is a fact that most kids in FCPS cannot choose to attend a school other than their zoned school. There is factually no choice in the matter. Your viewpoint is especially ignorant in that many centers were placed in lower income schools to boost the test scores, while many of the middle schools choosing to remain a LLIV are wealthier. So, you're letting rich kids choose to attend the center and edge out less affluent kids zoned to the center. And then you're letting even more rich kids get preferential seats at the base school. So, rich kids get to double tap and the poorer kids get shut out. Great job with the equity! If you want an example, see Luther Jackson vs. Thoreau. |
Anonymous
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So you missed the “Maybe a point bump for the kids zoned for the Center” which gets to your point that not everyone has a choice? Which is a shift in my position because you are correct, not every kid has a choice on their school. Kids who choose to attend the Center over their base should not receive the advantage of attending the Center and the advantage of coming from a less competitive school. They have a choice. A point bump, similar to the bumps for FARMs, for the kids who don’t have a choice, ie the Center is their base, would alleviate some of the issues that come from other kids coming to the base.
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