Half of British women reach age 30 without having a child

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so freaking bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

Cultural phenomenon. Be selfish, be immature, be a drunk not just in college but for another 10 years after college, obsess over your cat or dog and pointless job instead of locking down an eligible suitor in your physical and fertility prime. Anyone who marries and has kids right after college is an unsophisticated toothless rube!

Why is it so hard to imagine that having as many children as possible as young as possible is no longer a goal for modern women and men? While you may enjoy nothing better than pumping out babies and watching your babies pump out babies, other people make other choices.

Honestly, you sound envious. I'm not sure what else explains your vitriol about other peoples' lives that have literally no impact on you.

Envious of what? Children didn't disrupt my life, they ADDED to it, making it exponentially more meaningful and more fulfilling than words could ever describe. I still have an advanced degree, a professional career, a lovely home, we travel, we have a great life. What did I miss? 10 years of hooking up with random men, mental baggage, maybe an STD, developing some man-eater cynicism, maybe an abortion, maybe I'd make an extra $50k a year than I do now? And even if we couldn't travel or afford to eat at great restaurants, since when are meals or some week stay at a Four Seasons more valuable than raising children and having enough decades left (God willing) to see grandchildren grow up?

Thats your life, but understand that children don’t add to everyone’s life, but would disrupt other things you want to do. Parenting sounds way to exhausting for me.

[Anonymous]

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You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

So? NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE KIDS.

PP is right - you are psycho.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

First births? No, that is not true. How many natural births can a childless woman over 30 have? Typically one or two if they're lucky. Yeah yeah spare me the "friend you know" who had four healthy babies and got pregnant immediately after being on birth control for 20 years. Many won't have one. And of those, how many are unnatural IVF pregnancies with birth defects including autism and peanut allergies? Your quest to rationalize and normalize waiting until you're nearly barren to have children is sickening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

Every couple minus one in my friend group (about 10 couples) that got married after college were divorced by 27/28. None had kids. Most did go on to remarry and have kids (GASP!) In their 30s. None of them want their kids getting married young.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

You wish everyone was as unfulfilled and unhappy as you, don't you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

First births? No, that is not true. How many natural births can a childless woman over 30 have? Typically one or two if they're lucky. Yeah yeah spare me the "friend you know" who had four healthy babies and got pregnant immediately after being on birth control for 20 years. Many won't have one. And of those, how many are unnatural IVF pregnancies with birth defects including autism and peanut allergies? Your quest to rationalize and normalize waiting until you're nearly barren to have children is sickening.

You are clearly very detached from reality. And facts. Get help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

You wish everyone was as unfulfilled and unhappy as you, don't you.

I'm good - it's the belligerent nut job who is deeply unhappy. Brunch envy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

Every couple minus one in my friend group (about 10 couples) that got married after college were divorced by 27/28. None had kids. Most did go on to remarry and have kids (GASP!) In their 30s. None of them want their kids getting married young.

Yes - I should have said that almost none of the college couples had kids in their 20s. One couple who stayed together I think had kids in their late 20s, but most were in 30s after they remarried.

We were at a "selective college" and most went into grad school/med school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

First births? No, that is not true. How many natural births can a childless woman over 30 have? Typically one or two if they're lucky. Yeah yeah spare me the "friend you know" who had four healthy babies and got pregnant immediately after being on birth control for 20 years. Many won't have one. And of those, how many are unnatural IVF pregnancies with birth defects including autism and peanut allergies? Your quest to rationalize and normalize waiting until you're nearly barren to have children is sickening.

Why do I have the feeling that you are the one crowing about how often you dust and vacuum in the 'DH is a disappointment' thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

Every couple minus one in my friend group (about 10 couples) that got married after college were divorced by 27/28. None had kids. Most did go on to remarry and have kids (GASP!) In their 30s. None of them want their kids getting married young.

Yes - I should have said that almost none of the college couples had kids in their 20s. One couple who stayed together I think had kids in their late 20s, but most were in 30s after they remarried.

We were at a "selective college" and most went into grad school/med school.

IMO, people change a lot from the early/mid 20s to their 30s, especially if they are career oriented because of the trajectory of their careers, whether they want to stay in that career or want to focus on it more.

I told my teen DD to get married after late 20s, same for my nieces who are 25 and 30.

[Anonymous]

Well everyone I know who married their college sweetheart is still happily married 18-20 years later. See how anecdotes work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.

+1

Out of the handful of college couples we know who got married, a very high % of those ended in divorce. They were just too young at the time.

You wish everyone was as unfulfilled and unhappy as you, don't you.

I'm good - it's the belligerent nut job who is deeply unhappy. Brunch envy?

It sounds like a handful of you in this thread seethe with rage looking at pure happy young couples who've been together since college. You gleefully seek the ones who divorce -- I knew they'd crash and burn! As if the real key to a happy marriage is being some 30-something washed up party girl lush who's slept with dozens of men, has all the mental baggage and hangups that come from that, been on the pill since age 14, has an instagram full of tourist traps, and equity in a town home. NOW you're ready for marriage and children. I'm NOW financially secure and my fed job will pay for IVF treatments! Where are all the hot bachelor's who make at least $250,000 and have perfect hair, perfect teeth, and rich parents? Hello... anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well everyone I know who married their college sweetheart is still happily married 18-20 years later. See how anecdotes work?

+1. Literally all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

First births? No, that is not true. How many natural births can a childless woman over 30 have? Typically one or two if they're lucky. Yeah yeah spare me the "friend you know" who had four healthy babies and got pregnant immediately after being on birth control for 20 years. Many won't have one. And of those, how many are unnatural IVF pregnancies with birth defects including autism and peanut allergies? Your quest to rationalize and normalize waiting until you're nearly barren to have children is sickening.

I went to MIT. We don't have 4 children and I don't know anyone with 4 children. Max 2.