Feel like I need to babysit my professors so I get my extra time accommodation

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why some people can get more time in college.

I really hope this doesn't flow up to the workforce next. Employee A wants more time for his deadline but Employee B isn't eligible for more time, meanwhile the customer still wants it in the same timeframe.


It does flow up to the workplace, dummy. Clearly you aren't a manager or an important person anywhere. There are laws inlace to allow or the extra time.


There is no law in place to allow a nurse to deliver medications 2 hours later to allow a project manager to deliver the project to his client a week past the clients deadline. Nice try.


Are you bigotedly pushing disabled people out of the workplace


Jesus H. Christ on a Triscuit. Do you want a nurse anesthetist who needs twice as long to figure out the combination and dose of drugs to give you during surgery, knowing that even a tiny error or slip up could mean lights out? What about a fireman who requires an extra 50% time to get to your house and hook up the hose while your home and all your possessions are going up in flames?

It's easy to virtue signal and sound woke about these issues in the abstract and theoretical setting of an anonymous forum. But when it's your life or livelihood on the line, no one wants to put it in the hands of a DEI or special accommodations hire.


You sound unhinged.


100% unhinged. The reality of all of this is people self-select what degree the get, the work they do based on their skill set or boundaries they have to overcome. We all know that my kids will not become doctors or nurse anesthetist. They have neither the inclination nor the skill set. I work with many individuals that need accommodations in their work environment due to physical challenges. I have co-workers that have ADHD and the position they hold is one that works to their strengths. But the Unhinged poster seems to think these folks shouldn't even have a chance.
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My ADHD kid had time and a half on his ACT test years ago and ended up with a 36. Accommodations are awesome. He got into his first choice school (top 20) and graduated with a high GPA. His university gave him accommodations as needed. He had to self advocate. Some classes he needed them more than others.

He is now graduated and in the workplace. He is doing amazingly well. Imagine if he went through school without the accommodations. He'd be working in some low wage position after graduating from community college.

Accommodations are amazing.
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Anonymous wrote:Op, the professors will give you your desired extra time but this needs to be planned out and scheduled for you and many others. There is no administrative help for this. Professors get random letters over the first three weeks of a semester requesting a wide variety of accommodations. Implementing the broad assortment of requests is another matter. You, Op, only have your one request to worry about. Just speak up and talk with the professor a week or so prior to an exam to make sure your extra time is programmed in. The professors are happy to do it. No one is willfully trying to deny you of your accommodation. Just open up a dialogue and follow up to make sure the provisions are programmed in correctly. For example, professors can’t see your schedule, so they would need to program your start time either earlier than the regular class or end later than your regular class time. They also have to put in the accommodations of all the other 15 students as well. It can change for every test. It’s a lot of logistics added on to the creation and launching of an online test. Try to get some perspective from the side of your professor, too.


This is BS. There is a department in place for this very reason.


The departments issue the letters. Faculty are left to their own to actually put the needed measures in place.


How much do you think this adjunct is making,?
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Anonymous wrote:My ADHD kid had time and a half on his ACT test years ago and ended up with a 36. Accommodations are awesome. He got into his first choice school (top 20) and graduated with a high GPA. His university gave him accommodations as needed. He had to self advocate. Some classes he needed them more than others.

He is now graduated and in the workplace. He is doing amazingly well. Imagine if he went through school without the accommodations. He'd be working in some low wage position after graduating from community college.

Accommodations are amazing.


Wow, imagine how well every kid would do if they all got accommodations!
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As a Professor at a T30, I have a few students every quarter who try to use the disability accommodation as justification for lazy behavior (i.e. missing multiple classes without documented excuse). I have to remind them on top of everything else that the accommodation grants additional time for in-class exams not unlimited excused absences. Most students do not abuse the disability services, but the ones who do take an increasing amount of time and energy each term.
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Anonymous wrote:My ADHD kid had time and a half on his ACT test years ago and ended up with a 36. Accommodations are awesome. He got into his first choice school (top 20) and graduated with a high GPA. His university gave him accommodations as needed. He had to self advocate. Some classes he needed them more than others.

He is now graduated and in the workplace. He is doing amazingly well. Imagine if he went through school without the accommodations. He'd be working in some low wage position after graduating from community college.

Accommodations are amazing.


I mean I could've been a track star if I'd gotten a head start in every race.
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Op, curious if she's an adjunct?
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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.


OP here. Not true. They were all informed at the beginning of the semester by the disability department.
I also sent them another email in the first few weeks when it became clear I wasn't given extra time.
Insisting on students calling you doctor screams insecure. She put it in her syllabus, spoke to us the first and second class about it
and continued to remind people during lectures. My dad had a PhD. The only people who may refer to him as doctor as his coworkers or other work collogues he may be working on research with. I have heard students say professor during lectures but never Dr.


You said you need extra time. Don’t waste it arguing with foolish trolls.


Your professors probably have similar executive functioning challenges but unlike you they didn’t take action to mitigate them.
Best advice!
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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.


Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.



No they don't. It's "professor".


Students below the T10 struggle with "professor." They have an easier time with "Doctor," which is why so many professors at these schools introduce themselves that way.



Funny. Students at my parents T300 school knew to use doctor and professor 30 years ago. It’s not a ranking problem, it’s a how kids are raised problem. American children are now being raised to disrespect everything about higher education. They think they’re paying customers.


They are the paying customers. They pay more than any other country. I don't think the are being raised to be disrespectful on purpose.
Our society has become more casual and there are a lot of humble professors who are more than okay to go by their first names.
Times have changed.




Yes, we’ve become trashy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.


Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.



No they don't. It's "professor".


Students below the T10 struggle with "professor." They have an easier time with "Doctor," which is why so many professors at these schools introduce themselves that way.



Funny. Students at my parents T300 school knew to use doctor and professor 30 years ago. It’s not a ranking problem, it’s a how kids are raised problem. American children are now being raised to disrespect everything about higher education. They think they’re paying customers.


They are the paying customers. They pay more than any other country. I don't think the are being raised to be disrespectful on purpose.
Our society has become more casual and there are a lot of humble professors who are more than okay to go by their first names.
Times have changed.




Yes, we’ve become trashy.


And entitled. Advocate for yourself OP, you’re not in middle school anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:My ADHD kid had time and a half on his ACT test years ago and ended up with a 36. Accommodations are awesome. He got into his first choice school (top 20) and graduated with a high GPA. His university gave him accommodations as needed. He had to self advocate. Some classes he needed them more than others.

He is now graduated and in the workplace. He is doing amazingly well. Imagine if he went through school without the accommodations. He'd be working in some low wage position after graduating from community college.

Accommodations are amazing.


Wow, imagine how well every kid would do if they all got accommodations!


But every student doesn't have ADHD or another condition that interferes with their ability to learn. Not to execute in the workplace post-training, but simply to learn.

People who have a learning disability, such as ADHD, are constantly swimming upstream against everyone else as they are simply trying to learn. They're doing this as they are not fully developed neurologically anyway. If you give them the accommodation, such as extra time on a test, then you're compensating for the condition and letting the student get back on level ground with everyone else as they all seek to learn.

Then as they move forward through schooling, they rely on the training they've undertaken and their increased experience managing the condition to go forward professionally.

In other words, it's not that some anesthesiologist will need to take three times as long. It's that they take the extra time on tests, up to 3x if necessary, while they're learning and going through school so that they can handle people's cases one-by-one as professionals.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My ADHD kid had time and a half on his ACT test years ago and ended up with a 36. Accommodations are awesome. He got into his first choice school (top 20) and graduated with a high GPA. His university gave him accommodations as needed. He had to self advocate. Some classes he needed them more than others.

He is now graduated and in the workplace. He is doing amazingly well. Imagine if he went through school without the accommodations. He'd be working in some low wage position after graduating from community college.

Accommodations are amazing.


Wow, imagine how well every kid would do if they all got accommodations!


But every student doesn't have ADHD or another condition that interferes with their ability to learn. Not to execute in the workplace post-training, but simply to learn.

People who have a learning disability, such as ADHD, are constantly swimming upstream against everyone else as they are simply trying to learn. They're doing this as they are not fully developed neurologically anyway. If you give them the accommodation, such as extra time on a test, then you're compensating for the condition and letting the student get back on level ground with everyone else as they all seek to learn.

Then as they move forward through schooling, they rely on the training they've undertaken and their increased experience managing the condition to go forward professionally.

In other words, it's not that some anesthesiologist will need to take three times as long. It's that they take the extra time on tests, up to 3x if necessary, while they're learning and going through school so that they can handle people's cases one-by-one as professionals.


So what’s the problem with giving the extra time to every student, if it’s al about learning? It’s not like all of the non-ADHD kids have brains that function at the exact same level. Imagine having the slowest processing speed of the “neurotypical” kids and you do poorly every test because you run out of time… versus the kid who JUST qualifies for ADHD and gets time and a half, even though statistically your processing speeds are probably about the same.

How on earth is this fair?
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Op, still curious if she's an adjunct.

Also, I don't see why all students shouldn't get accomodations.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My ADHD kid had time and a half on his ACT test years ago and ended up with a 36. Accommodations are awesome. He got into his first choice school (top 20) and graduated with a high GPA. His university gave him accommodations as needed. He had to self advocate. Some classes he needed them more than others.

He is now graduated and in the workplace. He is doing amazingly well. Imagine if he went through school without the accommodations. He'd be working in some low wage position after graduating from community college.

Accommodations are amazing.


Wow, imagine how well every kid would do if they all got accommodations!


But every student doesn't have ADHD or another condition that interferes with their ability to learn. Not to execute in the workplace post-training, but simply to learn.

People who have a learning disability, such as ADHD, are constantly swimming upstream against everyone else as they are simply trying to learn. They're doing this as they are not fully developed neurologically anyway. If you give them the accommodation, such as extra time on a test, then you're compensating for the condition and letting the student get back on level ground with everyone else as they all seek to learn.

Then as they move forward through schooling, they rely on the training they've undertaken and their increased experience managing the condition to go forward professionally.

In other words, it's not that some anesthesiologist will need to take three times as long. It's that they take the extra time on tests, up to 3x if necessary, while they're learning and going through school so that they can handle people's cases one-by-one as professionals.


So what’s the problem with giving the extra time to every student, if it’s al about learning? It’s not like all of the non-ADHD kids have brains that function at the exact same level. Imagine having the slowest processing speed of the “neurotypical” kids and you do poorly every test because you run out of time… versus the kid who JUST qualifies for ADHD and gets time and a half, even though statistically your processing speeds are probably about the same.

How on earth is this fair?


Equity refers to fairness and justice. It is distinguished from equality: Whereas equality means providing the same to all, equity means recognizing that we do not all start from the same place and must acknowledge and make adjustments to imbalances.
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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.



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