Half of British women reach age 30 without having a child

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so freaking bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

Cultural phenomenon. Be selfish, be immature, be a drunk not just in college but for another 10 years after college, obsess over your car or dog and pointless job instead of locking down an eligible suitor in your physical and fertility prime. Anyone who marries and has kids right after college is an unsophisticated toothless rube!

Why is it so hard to imagine that having as many children as possible as young as possible is no longer a goal for modern women and men? While you may enjoy nothing better than pumping out babies and watching your babies pump out babies, other people make other choices.

Honestly, you sound envious. I'm not sure what else explains your vitriol about other peoples' lives that have literally no impact on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

I had a friend who told me that, back when we were in our 20s and he was getting married, and I was getting ready to move overseas on an adventure. 15 years later he was in the middle of the most bitter divorce I'd ever encountered, and I was marrying the guy I am glad I waited for.

Don't have kids and never wanted them, so that was never part of my calculus. I guess I am jsut a husk of a person, really, when you think about it.

Obviously there are exceptions. But particularly for introverts, it’s much harder to meet new people once you have left the bubble of college and grad school. Can it be done? Sure, but it’s much much harder and more luck-based.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is and the culture it represents. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so unfulfilled, bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

+ 1000000000000

They think they are going to get a Mr Big at age 45 and have kids right after. Lol.

What's sad is how the spinsters and those with an IVF baby or two continue to traffic the lie that it was worth it and any woman who married and gave birth in their early or mid 20s is some low class and trashy bore. Look how the handful is attacking me. I'm a Bible thumping rubem when actually I have an advanced degree, a fulfilling professional career, and our children got into highly selective colleges. It's almost as if they subconsciously get off on trying to ruin the next generation because they're so broken inside about being conned into squandering their prime. Misery loves company, right. 10 to 15 years of never seeing their grandchildren grow up deleted from life's ledger, if they are fortunate enough to even have children and grandchildren. I feel sorry for them but not when they attack me and carry on the lie that it was worth it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so freaking bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

Cultural phenomenon. Be selfish, be immature, be a drunk not just in college but for another 10 years after college, obsess over your cat or dog and pointless job instead of locking down an eligible suitor in your physical and fertility prime. Anyone who marries and has kids right after college is an unsophisticated toothless rube!

Why is it so hard to imagine that having as many children as possible as young as possible is no longer a goal for modern women and men? While you may enjoy nothing better than pumping out babies and watching your babies pump out babies, other people make other choices.

Honestly, you sound envious. I'm not sure what else explains your vitriol about other peoples' lives that have literally no impact on you.

Envious of what? Children didn't disrupt my life, they ADDED to it, making it exponentially more meaningful and more fulfilling than words could ever describe. I still have an advanced degree, a professional career, a lovely home, we travel, we have a great life. What did I miss? 10 years of hooking up with random men, mental baggage, maybe an STD, developing some man-eater cynicism, maybe an abortion, maybe I'd make an extra $50k a year than I do now? And even if we couldn't travel or afford to eat at great restaurants, since when are meals or some week stay at a Four Seasons more valuable than raising children and having enough decades left (God willing) to see grandchildren grow up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so freaking bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

Cultural phenomenon. Be selfish, be immature, be a drunk not just in college but for another 10 years after college, obsess over your car or dog and pointless job instead of locking down an eligible suitor in your physical and fertility prime. Anyone who marries and has kids right after college is an unsophisticated toothless rube!

Why is it so hard to imagine that having as many children as possible as young as possible is no longer a goal for modern women and men? While you may enjoy nothing better than pumping out babies and watching your babies pump out babies, other people make other choices.

Honestly, you sound envious. I'm not sure what else explains your vitriol about other peoples' lives that have literally no impact on you.

Yes, why else so hostile towards strangers and their life choices? PP is deeply bitter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so freaking bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

Cultural phenomenon. Be selfish, be immature, be a drunk not just in college but for another 10 years after college, obsess over your cat or dog and pointless job instead of locking down an eligible suitor in your physical and fertility prime. Anyone who marries and has kids right after college is an unsophisticated toothless rube!

Why is it so hard to imagine that having as many children as possible as young as possible is no longer a goal for modern women and men? While you may enjoy nothing better than pumping out babies and watching your babies pump out babies, other people make other choices.

Honestly, you sound envious. I'm not sure what else explains your vitriol about other peoples' lives that have literally no impact on you.

Envious of what? Children didn't disrupt my life, they ADDED to it, making it exponentially more meaningful and more fulfilling than words could ever describe. I still have an advanced degree, a professional career, a lovely home, we travel, we have a great life. What did I miss? 10 years of hooking up with random men, mental baggage, maybe an STD, developing some man-eater cynicism, maybe an abortion, maybe I'd make an extra $50k a year than I do now? And even if we couldn't travel or afford to eat at great restaurants, since when are meals or some week stay at a Four Seasons more valuable than raising children and having enough decades left (God willing) to see grandchildren grow up?

Your anger at people who made different choices is borderline pathological. You obviously aren't happy with the way your life turned out, because you are so angrily defensive about it. Never traveling or eating at a great restaurant sounds absolutely awful to me, but it's working for you, bravo.

Lots of us managed to get married in our 30s AND have decent careers AND have kids AND travel. Grandparenthood will be icing on the cake if that happens, but we're not pressuing our children to have children of their own just to please us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is and the culture it represents. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so unfulfilled, bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

+ 1000000000000

They think they are going to get a Mr Big at age 45 and have kids right after. Lol.

What's sad is how the spinsters and those with an IVF baby or two continue to traffic the lie that it was worth it and any woman who married and gave birth in their early or mid 20s is some low class and trashy bore. Look how the handful is attacking me. I'm a Bible thumping rubem when actually I have an advanced degree, a fulfilling professional career, and our children got into highly selective colleges. It's almost as if they subconsciously get off on trying to ruin the next generation because they're so broken inside about being conned into squandering their prime. Misery loves company, right. 10 to 15 years of never seeing their grandchildren grow up deleted from life's ledger, if they are fortunate enough to even have children and grandchildren. I feel sorry for them but not when they attack me and carry on the lie that it was worth it.

your kids and their "highly selective colleges"

ok be more specific, which colleges - then i can properly evaluate this whole situation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is and the culture it represents. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so unfulfilled, bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

+ 1000000000000

They think they are going to get a Mr Big at age 45 and have kids right after. Lol.

What's sad is how the spinsters and those with an IVF baby or two continue to traffic the lie that it was worth it and any woman who married and gave birth in their early or mid 20s is some low class and trashy bore. Look how the handful is attacking me. I'm a Bible thumping rubem when actually I have an advanced degree, a fulfilling professional career, and our children got into highly selective colleges. It's almost as if they subconsciously get off on trying to ruin the next generation because they're so broken inside about being conned into squandering their prime. Misery loves company, right. 10 to 15 years of never seeing their grandchildren grow up deleted from life's ledger, if they are fortunate enough to even have children and grandchildren. I feel sorry for them but not when they attack me and carry on the lie that it was worth it.

I don't know any women who call women who have children young low class or trashy. My 2 best mom friends had their first child at 19 and 23, doesn't bother me one bit.

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

[Anonymous]

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

[Anonymous]

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You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

Why even wait until 20? Or 15?

[Anonymous]

Well, to be respected an shave kids you have to get married first.

How many men now want to get married by the time they are 30 and pop out a couple of kids to support? Very few.

I wasn't able to have kids; I let my college boyfriend string me along until I was 28. By the time I found my dh, it was apparently too late for me to have kids at 35.

A lot of women do want to get married in their early or mid twenties, but very few men do.

[Anonymous]

Shave should be "have"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, to be respected an shave kids you have to get married first.

How many men now want to get married by the time they are 30 and pop out a couple of kids to support? Very few.

I wasn't able to have kids; I let my college boyfriend string me along until I was 28. By the time I found my dh, it was apparently too late for me to have kids at 35.

A lot of women do want to get married in their early or mid twenties, but very few men do.

I’m a pp and this is my point exactly. All of the men who wanted to (or at least were willing to) marry “young” are already seriously attached by their mid 20’s if not even coming out of college. The ones who don’t care about “sowing oats” and what not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You don’t know if they are stable, as lots of people are floored when friends get divorced, because they never saw it coming. We just never truly know.