Vassar / SUNY New Paltz Joint Errort To Cheapen MBA Degree

[Anonymous]

US News #31 University of Texas at Dallas Jindal MBA program & #34 SMU Dedman are solid MBA programs with great job placement. UT-Dallas is a steal for residents of Texas.

Many MBA programs do offer scholarships for highly qualified applicants. Everything is relative so what constitutes highly qualified for one particular MBA program may be just average for another, higher ranked MBA program.

To the folks at Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA program: Please consider showing some care & respect for the Vassar College students; consider changing the MBA option to a certificate or to a few undergraduate business courses open for Vassar College students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vassar wants/needs to attract more male undergrads (currently 65/35-ish ratio).

This has been a concern for decades. Persistent, consistent rumor--right or wrong--is that the typical Vassar male is short and non-binary.

Vassar College is a very liberal place for very liberal individuals. Application volume seems fine as does the selective rate of admissions. Haven't checked the retention rate recently, but it usually is quite good (around 94%/95%).

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Anonymous wrote:Will the effect of this joint effort be to cheapen both Vassar College degrees and MBA degrees ?

Several elite universities (U Chicago, Northwestern, U Michigan, Johns Hopkins, and others) offer nine-to-ten-month MIM (Masters in Management) degrees for recent college graduates with less than two years of post undergraduate work experience. Hundreds of universities offer certificate programs through continuing education arms that enable students to earn a certificate in business or in a specialty area in order to be better prepared for the working world. Some will even count credits earned in the one academic year masters in management program toward their MBA degree after the students get real world work experience and otherwise qualify for the school's MBA program.

Hopefully, someone with better sense will counsel Vassar College students and recent graduates of Vassar that getting a degree from an unranked, non-selective MBA program immediately after finishing an undergraduate liberal arts degree may be an unwise use of the graduate's time,money,and other resources.

Sigh. You guys really don’t get it, do you? All you think about is chasing rank determined by entities that desperately need you people to buy into their rankings to financially stay afloat.

For people into education you consistently miss the point of education.

I think it’s a great idea.

It is clear that you miss the point of earning an MBA degree.

Please explain it to me then.

But I’ll give you one great reason for MBA programs - it is for schools to make a sh!t load of money on another set of students coming back for another 2 years of overpriced education

OMG you must be associated with this venture between Vassar College and SUNY New Paltz.

Google: Why earn an MBA and please reread what I have written above.

Very little to be gained from an MBA experience for those without real world post undergraduate work experience.

FWIW The top MBA programs offer the most value in terms of career options within one's prior field or in an alternate field if one's experience has led them to seek such opportunities.

The program designed by Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA is little more than continuing & supplementing one's insufficient undergraduate experience while sacrificing future options & opportunities by earning a virtually worthless degree from a substandard, unranked, non-selective program.

Huh? I’m basically saying colleges are over priced. I’m not associated with anything. But you are very married to the idea that this is a bad idea. Why do you care?

And I’ll remind you again that your focus on brand and rank is silly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Readers may find the list of 133 MBA programs ranked by US News to be of interest (SUNY-New Paltz is unranked). #61 CUNY-Baruch is a great bargain for New York residents at $16,130 per academic year. #73 Babson College is great for certain specialties such an Entrepreneurship.

A Vassar College grad with a few years of work experience and a decent standardized test score (GRE or GMAT) and a solid reason for wanting to attend an MBA program should have options within the top 30 or so MBA programs.

https://usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

Has the U Michigan undergrad accelerated MBA program always been considered elite? I know it is now, but was it 30 years ago?

[Anonymous]

Vassar is a very prestigious school - yes, it is not Harvard or Williams or whatever else, but in the grand scheme of things, it is very hard to get into.

This degree would not be additive to a Vassar degree. It almost dilutes it. Perhaps it better allows a Vassar alum with a liberal arts degree to compete with a student elsewhere with more traditional business training. But if I were hiring, I would probably hire a graduate of this program to be a peer of someone with an undergrad degree, not an MBA.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the effect of this joint effort be to cheapen both Vassar College degrees and MBA degrees ?

Several elite universities (U Chicago, Northwestern, U Michigan, Johns Hopkins, and others) offer nine-to-ten-month MIM (Masters in Management) degrees for recent college graduates with less than two years of post undergraduate work experience. Hundreds of universities offer certificate programs through continuing education arms that enable students to earn a certificate in business or in a specialty area in order to be better prepared for the working world. Some will even count credits earned in the one academic year masters in management program toward their MBA degree after the students get real world work experience and otherwise qualify for the school's MBA program.

Hopefully, someone with better sense will counsel Vassar College students and recent graduates of Vassar that getting a degree from an unranked, non-selective MBA program immediately after finishing an undergraduate liberal arts degree may be an unwise use of the graduate's time,money,and other resources.

Sigh. You guys really don’t get it, do you? All you think about is chasing rank determined by entities that desperately need you people to buy into their rankings to financially stay afloat.

For people into education you consistently miss the point of education.

I think it’s a great idea.

It is clear that you miss the point of earning an MBA degree.

Please explain it to me then.

But I’ll give you one great reason for MBA programs - it is for schools to make a sh!t load of money on another set of students coming back for another 2 years of overpriced education

OMG you must be associated with this venture between Vassar College and SUNY New Paltz.

Google: Why earn an MBA and please reread what I have written above.

Very little to be gained from an MBA experience for those without real world post undergraduate work experience.

FWIW The top MBA programs offer the most value in terms of career options within one's prior field or in an alternate field if one's experience has led them to seek such opportunities.

The program designed by Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA is little more than continuing & supplementing one's insufficient undergraduate experience while sacrificing future options & opportunities by earning a virtually worthless degree from a substandard, unranked, non-selective program.

Huh? I’m basically saying colleges are over priced. I’m not associated with anything. But you are very married to the idea that this is a bad idea. Why do you care?

And I’ll remind you again that your focus on brand and rank is silly

Again, it is clear that you have little to no knowledge of MBA programs and the purpose of MBA programs. Brand and rank opens doors which are unavailable to graduates of lower ranked and, especially, unranked programs such as SUNY-New Paltz. Do you really believe that top management consulting firms, elite tech firms, investment firms, or any type of firms whatsoever are recruiting SUNY-New Paltz MBAs ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Readers may find the list of 133 MBA programs ranked by US News to be of interest (SUNY-New Paltz is unranked). #61 CUNY-Baruch is a great bargain for New York residents at $16,130 per academic year. #73 Babson College is great for certain specialties such an Entrepreneurship.

A Vassar College grad with a few years of work experience and a decent standardized test score (GRE or GMAT) and a solid reason for wanting to attend an MBA program should have options within the top 30 or so MBA programs.

https://usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

Has the U Michigan undergrad accelerated MBA program always been considered elite? I know it is now, but was it 30 years ago?

Does U Michigan-Ross even offer a full-time, in-person, on-campus accelerated MBA program ?

Northwestern University-Kellogg offers lots of options including this accelerated part-time MBA program:

https://Kellogg.northwestern.edu/programs/part-time-mba/accelerated-option/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will the effect of this joint effort be to cheapen both Vassar College degrees and MBA degrees ?

Several elite universities (U Chicago, Northwestern, U Michigan, Johns Hopkins, and others) offer nine-to-ten-month MIM (Masters in Management) degrees for recent college graduates with less than two years of post undergraduate work experience. Hundreds of universities offer certificate programs through continuing education arms that enable students to earn a certificate in business or in a specialty area in order to be better prepared for the working world. Some will even count credits earned in the one academic year masters in management program toward their MBA degree after the students get real world work experience and otherwise qualify for the school's MBA program.

Hopefully, someone with better sense will counsel Vassar College students and recent graduates of Vassar that getting a degree from an unranked, non-selective MBA program immediately after finishing an undergraduate liberal arts degree may be an unwise use of the graduate's time,money,and other resources.

Sigh. You guys really don’t get it, do you? All you think about is chasing rank determined by entities that desperately need you people to buy into their rankings to financially stay afloat.

For people into education you consistently miss the point of education.

I think it’s a great idea.

It is clear that you miss the point of earning an MBA degree.

Please explain it to me then.

But I’ll give you one great reason for MBA programs - it is for schools to make a sh!t load of money on another set of students coming back for another 2 years of overpriced education

OMG you must be associated with this venture between Vassar College and SUNY New Paltz.

Google: Why earn an MBA and please reread what I have written above.

Very little to be gained from an MBA experience for those without real world post undergraduate work experience.

FWIW The top MBA programs offer the most value in terms of career options within one's prior field or in an alternate field if one's experience has led them to seek such opportunities.

The program designed by Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA is little more than continuing & supplementing one's insufficient undergraduate experience while sacrificing future options & opportunities by earning a virtually worthless degree from a substandard, unranked, non-selective program.

Huh? I’m basically saying colleges are over priced. I’m not associated with anything. But you are very married to the idea that this is a bad idea. Why do you care?

And I’ll remind you again that your focus on brand and rank is silly

Then why are posting on a thread regarding MBA programs as it is clear that you lack even a basic understanding of MBA programs ?

Is your purpose just a weird attempt to derail this thread ?