Percent in AAP by grade

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Anonymous wrote:It varies by school but look at the FCPS school profiles. Here is one for Colvin Run Es

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:017,0

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108%3A8

How does AAP work in middle school? are there separate gen ed and level IV tracks?

Yes. In middle school there is level iv, honors (open enrollment), general education, and various levels of special education for all core classes.

A small minority of schools have chosen some subjects to be “honors for all”, but the majority still have multiple levels.

What is the point of a separate level iv vs honors class? Are they actually different in middle school?

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If AAP selection is done by the central committee, why do people say that above-average kids at low SES are more likely to get in than way-above-average kids at high SES schools? It's not like there are 20% kids selected from each school.

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If AAP selection is done by the central committee, why do people say that above-average kids at low SES are more likely to get in than way-above-average kids at high SES schools? It's not like there are 20% kids selected from each school.

The central committee knows which school the kids attend and they are mindful of that when selecting for AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finding this very confusing in relation to other threads where kids don't get in with 99 percentile.

I know it's a high SES area but there's no way 30 percent of kids are in 99th percentile at any school.

Are we talking any AAP or level IV specifically?

LIV specifically has around 20% of FCPS kids in grades 3-6. Many kids get in with test scores in the 120s, and some with scores in the 110s. The teacher ratings are much more important than the test scores. A 99th percentile kid with low teacher ratings will often get rejected.

Thanks but I'm new to this so don't know what those test scores relate to? Roughly what percentile on tests does LIV pertain to?

It doesn't work that way. Kids with 90th percentile test scores and a strong teacher rating will likely get admitted. Kids with 99th percentile scores but weak teacher ratings likely won't be admitted. Sometimes, kids have high test scores, are above grade level, and have strong teacher ratings, but still get rejected. There's no easy answer or simple formula for LIV admissions.

What "teacher ratings" would they be looking for when a kid is coming from a school district outside of Fairfax county, such as DC which doesn't have separately advanced tracked courses in elementary school whatsoever? I guess my question is, for a kid coming in at 4th or 5th grade, do I even bother?

AAP selection is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, especially for those coming in from outside FCPS. I'd apply, because it doesn't take that much effort, and then accept that the results might seem a bit random.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finding this very confusing in relation to other threads where kids don't get in with 99 percentile.

I know it's a high SES area but there's no way 30 percent of kids are in 99th percentile at any school.

Are we talking any AAP or level IV specifically?

LIV specifically has around 20% of FCPS kids in grades 3-6. Many kids get in with test scores in the 120s, and some with scores in the 110s. The teacher ratings are much more important than the test scores. A 99th percentile kid with low teacher ratings will often get rejected.

Thanks but I'm new to this so don't know what those test scores relate to? Roughly what percentile on tests does LIV pertain to?

It doesn't work that way. Kids with 90th percentile test scores and a strong teacher rating will likely get admitted. Kids with 99th percentile scores but weak teacher ratings likely won't be admitted. Sometimes, kids have high test scores, are above grade level, and have strong teacher ratings, but still get rejected. There's no easy answer or simple formula for LIV admissions.

What "teacher ratings" would they be looking for when a kid is coming from a school district outside of Fairfax county, such as DC which doesn't have separately advanced tracked courses in elementary school whatsoever? I guess my question is, for a kid coming in at 4th or 5th grade, do I even bother?

AAP selection is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, especially for those coming in from outside FCPS. I'd apply, because it doesn't take that much effort, and then accept that the results might seem a bit random.

If they are a solid, but grade level, kid in math based on assessments like i-ready, are they going be behind other kids and struggle in 5th grade though, simply because they haven't been taught whatever basics the other AAP kids were taught in 4th? Even if accepted, I still don't know that this would be a good thing. I'm not a fan of pushing kids unnecessarily, especially at this age. The idea of pushing accelerated math early makes me wary, even as a parent who absolutely adored math when I was in school. It is easy to switch from loving math to despising it simply because one concept was difficult to master and you then lose your footing on the mountain, so to speak.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finding this very confusing in relation to other threads where kids don't get in with 99 percentile.

I know it's a high SES area but there's no way 30 percent of kids are in 99th percentile at any school.

Are we talking any AAP or level IV specifically?

LIV specifically has around 20% of FCPS kids in grades 3-6. Many kids get in with test scores in the 120s, and some with scores in the 110s. The teacher ratings are much more important than the test scores. A 99th percentile kid with low teacher ratings will often get rejected.

Thanks but I'm new to this so don't know what those test scores relate to? Roughly what percentile on tests does LIV pertain to?

It doesn't work that way. Kids with 90th percentile test scores and a strong teacher rating will likely get admitted. Kids with 99th percentile scores but weak teacher ratings likely won't be admitted. Sometimes, kids have high test scores, are above grade level, and have strong teacher ratings, but still get rejected. There's no easy answer or simple formula for LIV admissions.

What "teacher ratings" would they be looking for when a kid is coming from a school district outside of Fairfax county, such as DC which doesn't have separately advanced tracked courses in elementary school whatsoever? I guess my question is, for a kid coming in at 4th or 5th grade, do I even bother?

AAP selection is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, especially for those coming in from outside FCPS. I'd apply, because it doesn't take that much effort, and then accept that the results might seem a bit random.

If they are a solid, but grade level, kid in math based on assessments like i-ready, are they going be behind other kids and struggle in 5th grade though, simply because they haven't been taught whatever basics the other AAP kids were taught in 4th? Even if accepted, I still don't know that this would be a good thing. I'm not a fan of pushing kids unnecessarily, especially at this age. The idea of pushing accelerated math early makes me wary, even as a parent who absolutely adored math when I was in school. It is easy to switch from loving math to despising it simply because one concept was difficult to master and you then lose your footing on the mountain, so to speak.

What's the iready percentile? iready has a very broad definition of "on grade level," and most AAP kids would still be considered "on grade level."
If the kid has high aptitude for math, but they've only been taught grade level math, I wouldn't worry. The FCPS math curriculum spirals a lot. Each year, the kids are passing through a concept they learned the previous year, but then going into more depth. Kids enter and exit advanced math at all ES grade levels, and most are fine. Kids also frequently enter in 5th or 6th grade with no issues. If your kid doesn't love math or doesn't have a high aptitude, then I would be much more wary of the AAP acceleration.

The other question is what is the SES of the school you're planning to transfer into? If it's a higher SES area, your kid would probably be fine in gen ed. If it's a lower SES area, your kid would likely be bored and ignored in gen ed.

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary has 6 classes, one is local AAP. About 1/2 class is AAP, Half general Ed. Some kids also go to the center. So it is around 10%?

6 classes per grade??? What school is this big?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finding this very confusing in relation to other threads where kids don't get in with 99 percentile.

I know it's a high SES area but there's no way 30 percent of kids are in 99th percentile at any school.

Are we talking any AAP or level IV specifically?

LIV specifically has around 20% of FCPS kids in grades 3-6. Many kids get in with test scores in the 120s, and some with scores in the 110s. The teacher ratings are much more important than the test scores. A 99th percentile kid with low teacher ratings will often get rejected.

Thanks but I'm new to this so don't know what those test scores relate to? Roughly what percentile on tests does LIV pertain to?

It doesn't work that way. Kids with 90th percentile test scores and a strong teacher rating will likely get admitted. Kids with 99th percentile scores but weak teacher ratings likely won't be admitted. Sometimes, kids have high test scores, are above grade level, and have strong teacher ratings, but still get rejected. There's no easy answer or simple formula for LIV admissions.

What "teacher ratings" would they be looking for when a kid is coming from a school district outside of Fairfax county, such as DC which doesn't have separately advanced tracked courses in elementary school whatsoever? I guess my question is, for a kid coming in at 4th or 5th grade, do I even bother?

AAP selection is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, especially for those coming in from outside FCPS. I'd apply, because it doesn't take that much effort, and then accept that the results might seem a bit random.

If they are a solid, but grade level, kid in math based on assessments like i-ready, are they going be behind other kids and struggle in 5th grade though, simply because they haven't been taught whatever basics the other AAP kids were taught in 4th? Even if accepted, I still don't know that this would be a good thing. I'm not a fan of pushing kids unnecessarily, especially at this age. The idea of pushing accelerated math early makes me wary, even as a parent who absolutely adored math when I was in school. It is easy to switch from loving math to despising it simply because one concept was difficult to master and you then lose your footing on the mountain, so to speak.

What's the iready percentile? iready has a very broad definition of "on grade level," and most AAP kids would still be considered "on grade level."
If the kid has high aptitude for math, but they've only been taught grade level math, I wouldn't worry. The FCPS math curriculum spirals a lot. Each year, the kids are passing through a concept they learned the previous year, but then going into more depth. Kids enter and exit advanced math at all ES grade levels, and most are fine. Kids also frequently enter in 5th or 6th grade with no issues. If your kid doesn't love math or doesn't have a high aptitude, then I would be much more wary of the AAP acceleration.

The other question is what is the SES of the school you're planning to transfer into? If it's a higher SES area, your kid would probably be fine in gen ed. If it's a lower SES area, your kid would likely be bored and ignored in gen ed.

Returning back to this, i-ready reading has been consistently high 90s, or above 99th percentile

Math has heen a total crapshoot from below grade level, 80th to 90th percentile, to 94th percentile on the most recent winter iready. Unsure if COVID and virtual school may have set them back.

So this is where I don't know what to do. Moving schools/locations is tough enough at this age, so want to place them right.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finding this very confusing in relation to other threads where kids don't get in with 99 percentile.

I know it's a high SES area but there's no way 30 percent of kids are in 99th percentile at any school.

Are we talking any AAP or level IV specifically?

LIV specifically has around 20% of FCPS kids in grades 3-6. Many kids get in with test scores in the 120s, and some with scores in the 110s. The teacher ratings are much more important than the test scores. A 99th percentile kid with low teacher ratings will often get rejected.

Thanks but I'm new to this so don't know what those test scores relate to? Roughly what percentile on tests does LIV pertain to?

It doesn't work that way. Kids with 90th percentile test scores and a strong teacher rating will likely get admitted. Kids with 99th percentile scores but weak teacher ratings likely won't be admitted. Sometimes, kids have high test scores, are above grade level, and have strong teacher ratings, but still get rejected. There's no easy answer or simple formula for LIV admissions.

What "teacher ratings" would they be looking for when a kid is coming from a school district outside of Fairfax county, such as DC which doesn't have separately advanced tracked courses in elementary school whatsoever? I guess my question is, for a kid coming in at 4th or 5th grade, do I even bother?

AAP selection is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, especially for those coming in from outside FCPS. I'd apply, because it doesn't take that much effort, and then accept that the results might seem a bit random.

If they are a solid, but grade level, kid in math based on assessments like i-ready, are they going be behind other kids and struggle in 5th grade though, simply because they haven't been taught whatever basics the other AAP kids were taught in 4th? Even if accepted, I still don't know that this would be a good thing. I'm not a fan of pushing kids unnecessarily, especially at this age. The idea of pushing accelerated math early makes me wary, even as a parent who absolutely adored math when I was in school. It is easy to switch from loving math to despising it simply because one concept was difficult to master and you then lose your footing on the mountain, so to speak.

What's the iready percentile? iready has a very broad definition of "on grade level," and most AAP kids would still be considered "on grade level."
If the kid has high aptitude for math, but they've only been taught grade level math, I wouldn't worry. The FCPS math curriculum spirals a lot. Each year, the kids are passing through a concept they learned the previous year, but then going into more depth. Kids enter and exit advanced math at all ES grade levels, and most are fine. Kids also frequently enter in 5th or 6th grade with no issues. If your kid doesn't love math or doesn't have a high aptitude, then I would be much more wary of the AAP acceleration.

The other question is what is the SES of the school you're planning to transfer into? If it's a higher SES area, your kid would probably be fine in gen ed. If it's a lower SES area, your kid would likely be bored and ignored in gen ed.

Returning back to this, i-ready reading has been consistently high 90s, or above 99th percentile

Math has heen a total crapshoot from below grade level, 80th to 90th percentile, to 94th percentile on the most recent winter iready. Unsure if COVID and virtual school may have set them back.

So this is where I don't know what to do. Moving schools/locations is tough enough at this age, so want to place them right.

Did you get your child's AAP package? The submitted iready only includes winter 2023 score, per you, it's 94% math and 99% reading. That's AAP admissible. Look at his package to see where is lacking.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finding this very confusing in relation to other threads where kids don't get in with 99 percentile.

I know it's a high SES area but there's no way 30 percent of kids are in 99th percentile at any school.

Are we talking any AAP or level IV specifically?

LIV specifically has around 20% of FCPS kids in grades 3-6. Many kids get in with test scores in the 120s, and some with scores in the 110s. The teacher ratings are much more important than the test scores. A 99th percentile kid with low teacher ratings will often get rejected.

Thanks but I'm new to this so don't know what those test scores relate to? Roughly what percentile on tests does LIV pertain to?

It doesn't work that way. Kids with 90th percentile test scores and a strong teacher rating will likely get admitted. Kids with 99th percentile scores but weak teacher ratings likely won't be admitted. Sometimes, kids have high test scores, are above grade level, and have strong teacher ratings, but still get rejected. There's no easy answer or simple formula for LIV admissions.

What "teacher ratings" would they be looking for when a kid is coming from a school district outside of Fairfax county, such as DC which doesn't have separately advanced tracked courses in elementary school whatsoever? I guess my question is, for a kid coming in at 4th or 5th grade, do I even bother?

AAP selection is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, especially for those coming in from outside FCPS. I'd apply, because it doesn't take that much effort, and then accept that the results might seem a bit random.

If they are a solid, but grade level, kid in math based on assessments like i-ready, are they going be behind other kids and struggle in 5th grade though, simply because they haven't been taught whatever basics the other AAP kids were taught in 4th? Even if accepted, I still don't know that this would be a good thing. I'm not a fan of pushing kids unnecessarily, especially at this age. The idea of pushing accelerated math early makes me wary, even as a parent who absolutely adored math when I was in school. It is easy to switch from loving math to despising it simply because one concept was difficult to master and you then lose your footing on the mountain, so to speak.

What's the iready percentile? iready has a very broad definition of "on grade level," and most AAP kids would still be considered "on grade level."
If the kid has high aptitude for math, but they've only been taught grade level math, I wouldn't worry. The FCPS math curriculum spirals a lot. Each year, the kids are passing through a concept they learned the previous year, but then going into more depth. Kids enter and exit advanced math at all ES grade levels, and most are fine. Kids also frequently enter in 5th or 6th grade with no issues. If your kid doesn't love math or doesn't have a high aptitude, then I would be much more wary of the AAP acceleration.

The other question is what is the SES of the school you're planning to transfer into? If it's a higher SES area, your kid would probably be fine in gen ed. If it's a lower SES area, your kid would likely be bored and ignored in gen ed.

Returning back to this, i-ready reading has been consistently high 90s, or above 99th percentile

Math has heen a total crapshoot from below grade level, 80th to 90th percentile, to 94th percentile on the most recent winter iready. Unsure if COVID and virtual school may have set them back.

So this is where I don't know what to do. Moving schools/locations is tough enough at this age, so want to place them right.

Did you get your child's AAP package? The submitted iready only includes winter 2023 score, per you, it's 94% math and 99% reading. That's AAP admissible. Look at his package to see where is lacking.

We haven't applied yet, we are moving to VA for the next school year. This is why I'm trying to get it right for my kid who will enter 5th.