Protests on college campuses

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Anonymous wrote:I still can’t believe these schools are having their work crews clean up the mess that protesters left. Why aren’t the *protesters* required to clean it up??

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/police-move-in-on-ucla-protesters-after-tense-standoff-5403d55c?st=334ob5y4ehcndus&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Their families clearly didn't teach them at home to clean up after themselves. Find those parents and charge them.?

Such a stupid trope. The police move in, destroy the encampment, arrest the students and you are complaining about the mess left behind? It was left behind by the police not the students.

Cops had nothing to do with all stinking buckets and pails of you-know-what left behind. Try again.

You’d think these kids never heard of being stewards of their environment. Typical Democrat climate change fraudsters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is antisemetism. A vile Zionist calls Jews who don’t fall in line, including Holocaust survivors “Token Jews”.

They are being used as tokens, whether they realize it or not.

Well- to the poster at 18:48. Is this poster also guilty of not listening to Jews? Or only when the Jewish folk say something you agree with?

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Anonymous wrote:I still can’t believe these schools are having their work crews clean up the mess that protesters left. Why aren’t the *protesters* required to clean it up??

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/police-move-in-on-ucla-protesters-after-tense-standoff-5403d55c?st=334ob5y4ehcndus&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Their families clearly didn't teach them at home to clean up after themselves. Find those parents and charge them.?

Such a stupid trope. The police move in, destroy the encampment, arrest the students and you are complaining about the mess left behind? It was left behind by the police not the students.

Cops had nothing to do with all stinking buckets and pails of you-know-what left behind. Try again.

You’d think these kids never heard of being stewards of their environment. Typical Democrat climate change fraudsters.

Democrats leave filthy protest sites for minority workers to clean up.

That why minorities are breaking to Trump and the side of cleanliness and decency

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still can’t believe these schools are having their work crews clean up the mess that protesters left. Why aren’t the *protesters* required to clean it up??

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/police-move-in-on-ucla-protesters-after-tense-standoff-5403d55c?st=334ob5y4ehcndus&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Their families clearly didn't teach them at home to clean up after themselves. Find those parents and charge them.?

Such a stupid trope. The police move in, destroy the encampment, arrest the students and you are complaining about the mess left behind? It was left behind by the police not the students.

Cops had nothing to do with all stinking buckets and pails of you-know-what left behind. Try again.

You’d think these kids never heard of being stewards of their environment. Typical Democrat climate change fraudsters.

Democrats leave filthy protest sites for minority workers to clean up.

That why minorities are breaking to Trump and the side of cleanliness and decency

Trump is hardly offering decency, but you are correct that it is striking that minority facilities workers need to clean up (or defend, like at Columbia) campus spaces after the spoiled rich kids enjoying their temper tantrum/fully-funded sleepaway camp respite from actual school.

Note that students are describing themselves as the "proletariat" and complaining when their donated meals include too few microgreens.

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Anonymous wrote:There aren't "dem billionares" funding this.

If there is any funding, it is coming from Tehran and Moscow.

“Jewish Left-leaning billionaire and philanthropist George Soros and associations funded by him are reportedly funding the anti-Israel protests at college campuses across the US. The protests, which started at Columbia University last week, have spread to universities and colleges across over 8 states in the US, The New York Post reported.

The cash from Soros and his associations has been key to the protests in Columbia University. At the Columbia University, three groups set up the tent city last Wednesday. These groups are Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), and Within Our Lifetime. “

This is a lie. These protest are organic and that’s what has the powers that be mobilize so quickly and aggressively. George Soros funds unrest in the rest of the world.

Nothing organic about it. These groups are well funded. Check out the Tides foundation.

You just threw out a foundation name without any facts to support your allegation. The protests are completely grass roots.

I am sure that some of these groups will have received funding in the past, on climate change, DEI or other causes co-opted by the power class. They are not being funded now. They are being dismantled, threatened and intimidated at lightning speed.

Do you even read newspapers? This has all been reported. The Huffington Post has documented Soros funding of the Tides Foundation and the Tides Foundation has been shown by the Capital Research Center to help fund pro Palestinian protests. Follow the money.

EVERYONE needs to know where the funding for the violence is coming from. This is all just a warmup for their Chicago Democrat Convention. The Democrat Party is in the toilet, thanks to the massive mess they created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that Jews are not listened to when they identify antisemitism is evidence 101 of antisemitism. We are being 'mansplained' about what is or is not anti semistism.

And the vast majority of Jews are very clear that antisemitism is very very very visible right now. Yes there are outliers, but as the cnn speaker inartfully articulated most of those are people that have limited connection to their faith and certainly are not the jews most likely to be the target of antisemitic comments because they do not wear kippah or other outward signs of jewishnesd.

The idea of leaving it to Jews to decide what constitutes anti-semitism is, frankly, ludicrous.

There’s ample evidence that claims of anti-semitism are used to silence others. The label has been weaponized for political gain to the point where it’s basically unrecognizable.

Allowing the group that stands to benefit from using the label to decide what, where and when to use it makes as much sense as allowing someone to walk into their bank and insist that they get to tell the teller how much is in their account.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that Jews are not listened to when they identify antisemitism is evidence 101 of antisemitism. We are being 'mansplained' about what is or is not anti semistism.

And the vast majority of Jews are very clear that antisemitism is very very very visible right now. Yes there are outliers, but as the cnn speaker inartfully articulated most of those are people that have limited connection to their faith and certainly are not the jews most likely to be the target of antisemitic comments because they do not wear kippah or other outward signs of jewishnesd.

The idea of leaving it to Jews to decide what constitutes anti-semitism is, frankly, ludicrous.

There’s ample evidence that claims of anti-semitism are used to silence others. The label has been weaponized for political gain to the point where it’s basically unrecognizable.

Allowing the group that stands to benefit from using the label to decide what, where and when to use it makes as much sense as allowing someone to walk into their bank and insist that they get to tell the teller how much is in their account.

So you are arguing against a courtesy offered to every other minority group because, as you allege, the Jews be sneaky liars? There is a word for this... oh, what could it be?

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately the accusations of antisemitism have been hurled around so excessively that the words have lost significance which is quite unfortunate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that Jews are not listened to when they identify antisemitism is evidence 101 of antisemitism. We are being 'mansplained' about what is or is not anti semistism.

And the vast majority of Jews are very clear that antisemitism is very very very visible right now. Yes there are outliers, but as the cnn speaker inartfully articulated most of those are people that have limited connection to their faith and certainly are not the jews most likely to be the target of antisemitic comments because they do not wear kippah or other outward signs of jewishnesd.

The idea of leaving it to Jews to decide what constitutes anti-semitism is, frankly, ludicrous.

There’s ample evidence that claims of anti-semitism are used to silence others. The label has been weaponized for political gain to the point where it’s basically unrecognizable.

Allowing the group that stands to benefit from using the label to decide what, where and when to use it makes as much sense as allowing someone to walk into their bank and insist that they get to tell the teller how much is in their account.

So you are arguing against a courtesy offered to every other minority group because, as you allege, the Jews be sneaky liars? There is a word for this... oh, what could it be?

Bull. Where is that self-serving role afforded to any other group?

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Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

The call is for local chapters to dissociate from Hillel International not to eliminate Hillel on campus, but of course there is no interest in reporting that accurately.

It’s no different than national fraternities dissociating from local chapters or vice versa when one of them is out of step with the university’s policies.

Or how about calling for all Newman centers to dissociate from the Catholic Church? Right?

Such a bizarre argument. Please don’t try to bring your Christian analogs to this discussion because they are inappropriate in ways you don’t even see

it’s a pretty apt analogy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately the accusations of antisemitism have been hurled around so excessively that the words have lost significance which is quite unfortunate.

No, you just operate in bad faith or lack the understanding to see what you are saying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that Jews are not listened to when they identify antisemitism is evidence 101 of antisemitism. We are being 'mansplained' about what is or is not anti semistism.

And the vast majority of Jews are very clear that antisemitism is very very very visible right now. Yes there are outliers, but as the cnn speaker inartfully articulated most of those are people that have limited connection to their faith and certainly are not the jews most likely to be the target of antisemitic comments because they do not wear kippah or other outward signs of jewishnesd.

The idea of leaving it to Jews to decide what constitutes anti-semitism is, frankly, ludicrous.

There’s ample evidence that claims of anti-semitism are used to silence others. The label has been weaponized for political gain to the point where it’s basically unrecognizable.

Allowing the group that stands to benefit from using the label to decide what, where and when to use it makes as much sense as allowing someone to walk into their bank and insist that they get to tell the teller how much is in their account.

So you are arguing against a courtesy offered to every other minority group because, as you allege, the Jews be sneaky liars? There is a word for this... oh, what could it be?

Your “sneaky liars” insert where nobody said that is what’s called consciousness of guilt in certain forums.

That said, I don’t agree with that phrasing so stop this persistent habit of putting words in the mouths of others to distort what they HAVE written to suit your agenda. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still can’t believe these schools are having their work crews clean up the mess that protesters left. Why aren’t the *protesters* required to clean it up??

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/police-move-in-on-ucla-protesters-after-tense-standoff-5403d55c?st=334ob5y4ehcndus&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Their families clearly didn't teach them at home to clean up after themselves. Find those parents and charge them.?

Such a stupid trope. The police move in, destroy the encampment, arrest the students and you are complaining about the mess left behind? It was left behind by the police not the students.

Cops had nothing to do with all stinking buckets and pails of you-know-what left behind. Try again.

You’d think these kids never heard of being stewards of their environment. Typical Democrat climate change fraudsters.

Democrats leave filthy protest sites for minority workers to clean up.

That why minorities are breaking to Trump and the side of cleanliness and decency

Trump is hardly offering decency, but you are correct that it is striking that minority facilities workers need to clean up (or defend, like at Columbia) campus spaces after the spoiled rich kids enjoying their temper tantrum/fully-funded sleepaway camp respite from actual school.

Note that students are describing themselves as the "proletariat" and complaining when their donated meals include too few microgreens.

Food insecurity is real!

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Jeff may give me another time out for posting this. But yeah - calling for eliminating Hillel is antisemitic. Yes, it is.

My problem is you can't have it both ways. You can't decry Palestinian protestors who have ties to national orgs, while saying this demand is a problem. A quick Google search shows that support for Israel is an official policy of Hillel and is funded by big donors, making it essentially political* despite its effectiveness for providing a safe space for Jewish students. I've also seen people protest Northwestern giving in to protestors who wanted a Palestinian/Muslim safe place. Make it equal.

I also think this Tweeter loses credibility because there is nothing pro-Hamas in that document.

*"Joel transformed the funding structure of Hillel International to rely more on private funding from large donors, many of whom were strong supporters of Israel. The influence of these large donors grew until support for Israel became an official policy of Hillel International in 2010."
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/hillel-international/#:~:text=Joel%20transformed%20the%20funding%20structure,were%20strong%20supporters%20of%20Israel.

No student has a right to limit what other students can do based on a relationship with another nation’s politics. That’s pure discrimination based on nationality as well as viewpoint discrimination.

The problem is that "israel" is being equated with judiasm, or being Jewish.

I am an American Jew who supports Israel's right to exist and also supports the Palestinians right to exist, and hate Hamas and Likud equally.

Where do these movements leave someone like me?

they leave you in the majority. i'm an american jew who feels the exact same - and so do almost all the other jews i know. we are the MAJORITY.

groups like hillel are not out crying for the extermination of palestinians, either.

unlike the college protesters crying out for the erasure of people like us.

The semantics don't change the facts. If Hillel supports the State of Israel, that means that Hillel supports the direction taken by its leadership. Israel's leadership has demonstrated through its words and actions that it is intent on the extermination of Palestinians. Therefore, Hillel is not only supportive of genocide, but they shouldn't be permitted as a campus organization. Unless they change their charter to reflect support for Jewish students in the U.S. and redact the parts of their mission related to Israel, it's a problem that needs to be addressed. And yes, I feel the exact same way if there are other groups with charters that reflect a mission to aid or support any other foreign state.

no, that is not what it means. it is not what it means at all.

when trump was taking babies away from their parents at the border, did you support that? i sure as he** did not. when red states are taking away reproductive rights, do you support that? i do NOT.

there are massive protests IN ISRAEL over this war. do you know that? do you care? do you have any understanding of any of this? or are you just so comfortable in your judgments that why would you bother to learn?

i believe israel has a right to exist. i oppose this current israeli government as strongly as someone who is not an israeli citizen can. those two things are not in contradiction - and represent the views of MOST american jews.

NP. So why as a form of protest are you against people asking the campus Hillel groups to divest from Hillel international until they stop supporting the actions of the Israeli govt? As you say, plenty of Israeli people are protesting against the Israeli govt in Israel. The request is not anti Semitic. It’s yet another way to out pressure on the current govt.

For the record, I strongly think this is a two way street. I believe the protestors who are connected to Hamas should be called out. And counter-protestors are not only in the right, but I would argue have an obligation to point this out and ask protest groups/palestinian support groups etc to divest financially and from using the symbols of Hamas (like the picture of the guy with the terrorist headband).

where do you see hillel as being fans of netanyahu?! here are their guidelines - please point me to the part that you think means they want a one state solution because that isn't my experience with hillel and i don't see it anywhere.

https://www.hillel.org/israel-guidelines/

“ In 2016, Hillel International partnered with the Israeli government on Mosaic International, a $66 million initiative to promote pro-Israel sentiment in the United States. Hillel received $22 million from Mosaic.”

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/hillel-international/#:~:text=In%202016%2C%20Hillel%20International%20partnered,received%20%2422%20million%20from%20Mosaic.


Nothing wrong with that of course. But also nothing wrong with asking campus Hillel groups (which primarily serve to support Jewish students) to pull back from Hillel international as a way to protest Israel’s actions.

because it’s none of the non-Hillel students business. It’s exactly like demanding Newman Centers break ties with the Church. And I’m sure the protestors would also love to demand that any Jewish chaplains disavow Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately the accusations of antisemitism have been hurled around so excessively that the words have lost significance which is quite unfortunate.

No, you just operate in bad faith or lack the understanding to see what you are saying.

Page 1 of the handbook: I’ll tell you what you really mean!

Boring. Overused. Get creative with your propaganda tools, please.