Will voting out the school board make the school calendar sane again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the calendar choices out there for us to vote on. And the calendar with the majority is the one they use. I mean you get the calendar three years in advance. How are you not planning ahead it’s not like you get the calendar month-to-month. If you don’t like it, then run for school board.

Did you actually do the calendar survey? There was no option to vote against the ton of extra days added that only a small minority of the system needs off on.

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Anonymous wrote:"longer" school year is made possible by lots of 4day weekends and days off for mental health, schoolwork, etc. and parents know years in advance for childcare. I truly don't see the reason for school board hatred, angst over this

The hatred is because it’s disrespectful.

Whether it was intentional or not, you’re entirely wrong about “years in advance”. The early dismissals starting in ‘24 were announced weeks before they started. The new day of the week for this awful program was announced in May. No one believes Reid or the board won’t make more changes to published calendars— fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice …

And so the hatred is because of the disrespect and sexism. FCPS’ casual assumption that women (its always women) couldn’t possibly have jobs so demanding that 39 days off PLUS early dismissals could possibly represent a hardship to the mothers they assume are home eating bonbons. And if they’re NOT sitting home surely they can fork out $1000 extra a month to cover childcare so teachers can “plan”. Meanwhile, no matter how long you know in advance no job is handing most workers 39 days off between September and June.

FCPS is going to need to answer to their constituents. Board members know people are angry.

Speak for your family yourself. My husband is i take equal days off to support school days off. Perhaps the casual sexism is in your own house. Hate when people claim this, when it really speaks to your own household.
(We also don't love taking all this random time off)

The statistics, which are widely available me, say your family is an anomaly. FCPS knows it’s the women whose time and money they are freeloading on. My husband's job comes with less annual leave than mine, and sure everyone would love if employers handed out 40 days (eight weeks!) of PTO from September to June but it doesn't happen.

Yeah, no - most people get nowhere near 40 days. Which is why my husband and I split childcare responsibilities and days off. That's a marriage.

And thats great for you— truly— but statistically insignificant. When FCPS sets this calendar they’re not saying oh well in an egalitarian marriage we’re only asking for 20 days off each person. They’ve got the data about hours of childcare work, and they’ve got the data about single parents, and they come to the conclusion that women can be out of the workplace to make sure teachers have “enough planning time”. That’s the assumption.

For as liberal as FCPS is, its a model that 100% assumes a SAHM, and hides behind disrespectful sound-bytes like “school isn’t childcare” and “you had years to plan!” and my favorite “why don’t you want to spend time with your kids!?” to attempt to shame women out of advocating for better. I think in COVID it worked because it was paired with a message of public safety but schools and teachers got greedy about what they could ask for, parents had enough, and now even the school board says it has to change.

No, no, no.
Work on your marriage and the split of duties if you are both working parents. Just hate how everything becomes an equality debate.
And yes, I hate the calendar also. At least make some of the days off on Monday or Friday so we can plan some long weekends.

My marriage is as egalitarian in pickup/dropoff/days off as our workplaces allow. It doesn’t make the tiniest statistical difference, and I am not going to close my eyes and put my fingers in my ears and pretend FCPS’ decisions in this space aren’t deeply sexist. You can choose to believe they aren’t but thar is based on feelings and not data.

In my house my husband cannot take the time off without risking his job. I need to work but my job has more flexibility, so I take most of the hit and it is driving me crazy and is driving a wedge between us. The poster who keeps saying "How can you not plan ahead? You have three years" is an idiot because we can't afford a nanny or sitter for these days. We would do camps, but there aren't a lot of options. And planning for ~20 extra random days off in addition to summer is actually exhausting and takes time that I am already hemorrhaging because of said random days off. This is undoubtedly chaos and anyone who doesn't think so must be on the school board or a stay at home parent or wealthy.

[Anonymous]

To those saying this isn't about woke politics, I am having a hard time fathoming why a conservative school board would have allowed this. This definitely seems like woke nonsense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those saying this isn't about woke politics, I am having a hard time fathoming why a conservative school board would have allowed this. This definitely seems like woke nonsense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nobody is going to bite.
Push your politocs elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those saying this isn't about woke politics, I am having a hard time fathoming why a conservative school board would have allowed this. This definitely seems like woke nonsense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nobody is going to bite.
Push your politocs elsewhere.

Nobody is going to bite because there's no other explanation. There's no objective evidence supporting any of these added days off. It's pure liberal politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those saying this isn't about woke politics, I am having a hard time fathoming why a conservative school board would have allowed this. This definitely seems like woke nonsense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nobody is going to bite.
Push your politocs elsewhere.

That is an interesting point, i wonder how many days off they have in the bible belt.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the calendar choices out there for us to vote on. And the calendar with the majority is the one they use. I mean you get the calendar three years in advance. How are you not planning ahead it’s not like you get the calendar month-to-month. If you don’t like it, then run for school board.

Did you actually do the calendar survey? There was no option to vote against the ton of extra days added that only a small minority of the system needs off on.

I for one am glad that our school system respects a good number of minority groups in similar measure to majority groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the calendar choices out there for us to vote on. And the calendar with the majority is the one they use. I mean you get the calendar three years in advance. How are you not planning ahead it’s not like you get the calendar month-to-month. If you don’t like it, then run for school board.

Did you actually do the calendar survey? There was no option to vote against the ton of extra days added that only a small minority of the system needs off on.

I for one am glad that our school system respects a good number of minority groups in similar measure to majority groups.

I'd rather the school system respect academics and sound operating principles. Feel free to celebrate your religion on your own time, but let the rest of us go to school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the calendar choices out there for us to vote on. And the calendar with the majority is the one they use. I mean you get the calendar three years in advance. How are you not planning ahead it’s not like you get the calendar month-to-month. If you don’t like it, then run for school board.

Did you actually do the calendar survey? There was no option to vote against the ton of extra days added that only a small minority of the system needs off on.

I for one am glad that our school system respects a good number of minority groups in similar measure to majority groups.

I'd rather the school system respect academics and sound operating principles. Feel free to celebrate your religion on your own time, but let the rest of us go to school.

That's exactly what they're doing, you just don't care to see it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the calendar choices out there for us to vote on. And the calendar with the majority is the one they use. I mean you get the calendar three years in advance. How are you not planning ahead it’s not like you get the calendar month-to-month. If you don’t like it, then run for school board.

Did you actually do the calendar survey? There was no option to vote against the ton of extra days added that only a small minority of the system needs off on.

I for one am glad that our school system respects a good number of minority groups in similar measure to majority groups.

I'd rather the school system respect academics and sound operating principles. Feel free to celebrate your religion on your own time, but let the rest of us go to school.

That's exactly what they're doing, you just don't care to see it.

This isn’t true. There is no pedagogical backing for such a disruptive calendar and most early childhood education experts would agree.

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Anonymous wrote:"longer" school year is made possible by lots of 4day weekends and days off for mental health, schoolwork, etc. and parents know years in advance for childcare. I truly don't see the reason for school board hatred, angst over this

The hatred is because it’s disrespectful.

Whether it was intentional or not, you’re entirely wrong about “years in advance”. The early dismissals starting in ‘24 were announced weeks before they started. The new day of the week for this awful program was announced in May. No one believes Reid or the board won’t make more changes to published calendars— fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice …

And so the hatred is because of the disrespect and sexism. FCPS’ casual assumption that women (its always women) couldn’t possibly have jobs so demanding that 39 days off PLUS early dismissals could possibly represent a hardship to the mothers they assume are home eating bonbons. And if they’re NOT sitting home surely they can fork out $1000 extra a month to cover childcare so teachers can “plan”. Meanwhile, no matter how long you know in advance no job is handing most workers 39 days off between September and June.

FCPS is going to need to answer to their constituents. Board members know people are angry.

Speak for your family yourself. My husband is i take equal days off to support school days off. Perhaps the casual sexism is in your own house. Hate when people claim this, when it really speaks to your own household.
(We also don't love taking all this random time off)

The statistics, which are widely available me, say your family is an anomaly. FCPS knows it’s the women whose time and money they are freeloading on. My husband's job comes with less annual leave than mine, and sure everyone would love if employers handed out 40 days (eight weeks!) of PTO from September to June but it doesn't happen.

Yeah, no - most people get nowhere near 40 days. Which is why my husband and I split childcare responsibilities and days off. That's a marriage.

And thats great for you— truly— but statistically insignificant. When FCPS sets this calendar they’re not saying oh well in an egalitarian marriage we’re only asking for 20 days off each person. They’ve got the data about hours of childcare work, and they’ve got the data about single parents, and they come to the conclusion that women can be out of the workplace to make sure teachers have “enough planning time”. That’s the assumption.

For as liberal as FCPS is, its a model that 100% assumes a SAHM, and hides behind disrespectful sound-bytes like “school isn’t childcare” and “you had years to plan!” and my favorite “why don’t you want to spend time with your kids!?” to attempt to shame women out of advocating for better. I think in COVID it worked because it was paired with a message of public safety but schools and teachers got greedy about what they could ask for, parents had enough, and now even the school board says it has to change.

No, no, no.
Work on your marriage and the split of duties if you are both working parents. Just hate how everything becomes an equality debate.
And yes, I hate the calendar also. At least make some of the days off on Monday or Friday so we can plan some long weekends.

My marriage is as egalitarian in pickup/dropoff/days off as our workplaces allow. It doesn’t make the tiniest statistical difference, and I am not going to close my eyes and put my fingers in my ears and pretend FCPS’ decisions in this space aren’t deeply sexist. You can choose to believe they aren’t but thar is based on feelings and not data.

In my house my husband cannot take the time off without risking his job. I need to work but my job has more flexibility, so I take most of the hit and it is driving me crazy and is driving a wedge between us. The poster who keeps saying "How can you not plan ahead? You have three years" is an idiot because we can't afford a nanny or sitter for these days. We would do camps, but there aren't a lot of options. And planning for ~20 extra random days off in addition to summer is actually exhausting and takes time that I am already hemorrhaging because of said random days off. This is undoubtedly chaos and anyone who doesn't think so must be on the school board or a stay at home parent or wealthy.

The “why didn’t you plan ahead“ poster isn’t an idiot, she is a liar. Changes were made to 24-25 calendar weeks before school started. She would just prefer to gaslight than acknowledge the disrespect with which FCPS treats working families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those who came here hoping for a rational, constructive discussion about the FCPS calendar, I think it’s time to step back. It’s become clear that many of the loudest voices in opposition aren’t actually interested in problem-solving. They’re using this issue to push a political agenda and target the current school board.

Whenever reasonable solutions are suggested, they’re dismissed or met with name-calling instead of dialogue. This thread isn’t productive anymore. Let’s stop engaging, stop giving it more visibility, and let the discussion fade out.

Do you get this triggered by criticism of the school board when elected school
Board members make the same observation? Because heres the Braddock rep two short years ago:

Braddock District School Board Representative Megan McLaughlin is also concerned about the potential impact of professional workdays and religious holiday observances.

"The combination is continuing to put pressure on working families to have to take time off work and have childcare coverage for their children," she said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those saying this isn't about woke politics, I am having a hard time fathoming why a conservative school board would have allowed this. This definitely seems like woke nonsense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nobody is going to bite.
Push your politocs elsewhere.

Nobody is going to bite because there's no other explanation. There's no objective evidence supporting any of these added days off. It's pure liberal politics.

And many of us are fine with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those saying this isn't about woke politics, I am having a hard time fathoming why a conservative school board would have allowed this. This definitely seems like woke nonsense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nobody is going to bite.
Push your politocs elsewhere.

Nobody is going to bite because there's no other explanation. There's no objective evidence supporting any of these added days off. It's pure liberal politics.

Evidence of what?

[Anonymous]

IRL, I never see anyone who is so upset about this, and my circles aren’t all liberal. I wonder if a lot of these posts are the same people or people who aren’t in FCPS just stirring things up.

It is possible to make feel people feel included and on academics. My kids’ schools are doing both very well.