Flash Flood in Texas,

[Anonymous]

Typically, when they get flash flood warnings in the hill country they are more along the lines of don’t cross this bridge or that bridge. Turn around don’t drown, etc. They are not evacuating warnings.

The owner and director of Camp Mystic was driving back-and-forth between the lower cabins and higher ground taking campers to safety. The water rose too high and too fast and swept him away along with some of those he was trying to save.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

I work as a researcher in geographical sciences, focusing on remote sensing. My projects include climate change. I also volunteer and donate to environmental organizations. Care to tell me how you are more “stepped up” than I am now?

I'm not smacking you around for having an opinion about what could be done to prevent disasters like this in the future.

And I’m not “smacking anyone around” for doing that; I am talking about the ghouls who are literally saying they don’t care because it’s Texas, they voted for it, blah blah blah. This thread has at least three gross posts on every page, and if you’re going to deny that, there’s no point in talking with you, because you don’t face reality. If my chastising post doesn’t apply to you, then ease on down the road.

That’s the reality. This happened in Texas, a notorious red state. This happened to children at a Christian camp. Children whose parents almost certainly all voted for Trump. Those are three strikes against them for a lot of people here.


It’s not exactly hard to fathom why people here say they don’t care. They’re just being honest. They shouldn’t be excoriated for being honest.

Stop making this about politics. It was neglect on the state, county, camp licensing and most importantly the camp.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

DP. What are the horrible comments?

There have been multiple comments where posters say they don't feel bad for the dead girls because their parents are probably Trump supporters. There was also a comment early on referring sarcastically to the girls as "your precious little blond Christian girls" and at least one poster defending it.

Please point out where somebody said they did not feel bad about the girls.

First post that is quoted on this page:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/180/1281824.page

Literally says NO COMPASSION

Wow the reading comprehension on this site is in the pits.

Poster A makes a mocking post about how people will blame Trump.

Poster B replies, "I don't know why you find this funny." A direct callout to poster A, referring to them with "you."

Poster C quotes and bolds the "I don't know why you find this funny" comment, replying to it with, "I'm going to guess they support Trump. No compassion." Poster C is saying that the reason Poster A "finds this funny" is because "they support Trump. No compassion." The "no compassion" comment is in reference to Poster A's blah blah comment about Trump vs Harris. It's not a comment about the girls or the girls families. And here we are pages later like some demented game of telephone with people still not understanding the exchange.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

I work as a researcher in geographical sciences, focusing on remote sensing. My projects include climate change. I also volunteer and donate to environmental organizations. Care to tell me how you are more “stepped up” than I am now?

I'm not smacking you around for having an opinion about what could be done to prevent disasters like this in the future.

And I’m not “smacking anyone around” for doing that; I am talking about the ghouls who are literally saying they don’t care because it’s Texas, they voted for it, blah blah blah. This thread has at least three gross posts on every page, and if you’re going to deny that, there’s no point in talking with you, because you don’t face reality. If my chastising post doesn’t apply to you, then ease on down the road.

That’s the reality. This happened in Texas, a notorious red state. This happened to children at a Christian camp. Children whose parents almost certainly all voted for Trump. Those are three strikes against them for a lot of people here.


It’s not exactly hard to fathom why people here say they don’t care. They’re just being honest. They shouldn’t be excoriated for being honest.

You're both wrong. We're all upset about these children. Don't confuse real people with trolls, OK? There are trolls posts everyday on DCUM. This thread is not exception.

Do not let yourselves be taken in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"On Saturday afternoon, Gov. Greg Abbott said one word has been used more than any during this natural disaster: Prayer. "All we know is that prayer does work," he said."

I feel awful for the children. Just horrific what they experienced. It's heartbreaking and needless. But any adult who voted for this buffoon (or any other modern day Republican) reaps what they sow. It's tragic that people are so stupid and blind.

He's murderously stupid and responsible for a lot of poor preparation in his state. I hope he doesn't stay in his post.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

You're not going to survive well in an anonymous chat form if you don't learn how to identify and ignore trolls.

You are not helpless in the face of this disaster. You can take a look at it and try to understand why it happened. Precisely out of respect for the people that lost their lives

You may disagree that it is worth investing in, and having respect for a robust national weather service and all the infrastructure that it takes to have that. But there is nothing disrespectful in posters expressing that view.

I don't disagree with funding the NWS and having whatever infrastructure is necessary. That has nothing to do with showing basic human decency when referring to these children, who presumably died horrible deaths. Those two things are compatible. You don't have to be an a-hole to support the NWS.

Why does any functioning adult need the NWS to tell them that a creek prone to flash flooding will flash flood after 10” of sudden rain?

I mean, at some point, people have to use their own brains and not be reliant on some authority to spoon feed them every single action they should take.

The counselors and management of this camp are to blame. Period. Because they knew the history of flooding at the camp. They knew it had been raining for hours. But they didn’t even monitor the creek. They couldn’t be bothered to.


But some of you here are vitally dependent on making this the fault of DOGE and Trump. So you excuse people who allowed children to be killed because they were too lazy/stupid to think that flooding might occur after record amounts of rain.

You’re blaming the 19 year old counselors for this?

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

I work as a researcher in geographical sciences, focusing on remote sensing. My projects include climate change. I also volunteer and donate to environmental organizations. Care to tell me how you are more “stepped up” than I am now?

I'm not smacking you around for having an opinion about what could be done to prevent disasters like this in the future.

And I’m not “smacking anyone around” for doing that; I am talking about the ghouls who are literally saying they don’t care because it’s Texas, they voted for it, blah blah blah. This thread has at least three gross posts on every page, and if you’re going to deny that, there’s no point in talking with you, because you don’t face reality. If my chastising post doesn’t apply to you, then ease on down the road.

That’s the reality. This happened in Texas, a notorious red state. This happened to children at a Christian camp. Children whose parents almost certainly all voted for Trump. Those are three strikes against them for a lot of people here.


It’s not exactly hard to fathom why people here say they don’t care. They’re just being honest. They shouldn’t be excoriated for being honest.

Stop making this about politics. It was neglect on the state, county, camp licensing and most importantly the camp.

It’s absolutely about politics. Stop insisting that it isn’t. Politics is life. We can be adult enough to acknowledge that.


Many people here dislike Texans. Many people here dislike Christians. Many people here dislike Trump supporters. This IS about politics and it’s ridiculous to deny it.


Just accept it and deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

You're not going to survive well in an anonymous chat form if you don't learn how to identify and ignore trolls.

You are not helpless in the face of this disaster. You can take a look at it and try to understand why it happened. Precisely out of respect for the people that lost their lives

You may disagree that it is worth investing in, and having respect for a robust national weather service and all the infrastructure that it takes to have that. But there is nothing disrespectful in posters expressing that view.

I don't disagree with funding the NWS and having whatever infrastructure is necessary. That has nothing to do with showing basic human decency when referring to these children, who presumably died horrible deaths. Those two things are compatible. You don't have to be an a-hole to support the NWS.

Why does any functioning adult need the NWS to tell them that a creek prone to flash flooding will flash flood after 10” of sudden rain?

I mean, at some point, people have to use their own brains and not be reliant on some authority to spoon feed them every single action they should take.

The counselors and management of this camp are to blame. Period. Because they knew the history of flooding at the camp. They knew it had been raining for hours. But they didn’t even monitor the creek. They couldn’t be bothered to.


But some of you here are vitally dependent on making this the fault of DOGE and Trump. So you excuse people who allowed children to be killed because they were too lazy/stupid to think that flooding might occur after record amounts of rain.

You’re blaming the 19 year old counselors for this?

As opposed to blaming Trump?

[Anonymous]

As a central Texan, a Democrat, a lifelong visitor to Kerrville, a former camper there, a prospective retiree to the area, and a friend and relative to many who have been impacted by this - I don't cast blame anywhere. There is so much complicated history and culture in that area of the state that is hard to understand from the outside. The external criticism will only make it more insular.

And blame is beside the point in any case. I know people can't help themselves though.

No doubt there will be an implementation of more effective warning signals along the Guadalupe river - like sirens. There is little to no cell service (on purpose) so they may also increase cell tower numbers. However the sirens will only be as effective as the NWS data and the alertness of local officials. Mystic and the other impacted camps are where the kids of the most influential families in the state spend their summer so there will be changes but they will not blame the camps. However, my guess is that at least one or more will have to shutter completely because they are not the most financially stable organizations in this day and age.

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Anonymous wrote:As a central Texan, a Democrat, a lifelong visitor to Kerrville, a former camper there, a prospective retiree to the area, and a friend and relative to many who have been impacted by this - I don't cast blame anywhere. There is so much complicated history and culture in that area of the state that is hard to understand from the outside. The external criticism will only make it more insular.

And blame is beside the point in any case. I know people can't help themselves though.

No doubt there will be an implementation of more effective warning signals along the Guadalupe river - like sirens. There is little to no cell service (on purpose) so they may also increase cell tower numbers. However the sirens will only be as effective as the NWS data and the alertness of local officials. Mystic and the other impacted camps are where the kids of the most influential families in the state spend their summer so there will be changes but they will not blame the camps. However, my guess is that at least one or more will have to shutter completely because they are not the most financially stable organizations in this day and age.

And, the camp should have had radios, sirens and more. The camps are ultimately responsible and all the other camps got out. They should have enough buses to move everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:As a central Texan, a Democrat, a lifelong visitor to Kerrville, a former camper there, a prospective retiree to the area, and a friend and relative to many who have been impacted by this - I don't cast blame anywhere. There is so much complicated history and culture in that area of the state that is hard to understand from the outside. The external criticism will only make it more insular.

And blame is beside the point in any case. I know people can't help themselves though.

No doubt there will be an implementation of more effective warning signals along the Guadalupe river - like sirens. There is little to no cell service (on purpose) so they may also increase cell tower numbers. However the sirens will only be as effective as the NWS data and the alertness of local officials. Mystic and the other impacted camps are where the kids of the most influential families in the state spend their summer so there will be changes but they will not blame the camps. However, my guess is that at least one or more will have to shutter completely because they are not the most financially stable organizations in this day and age.

And, the camp should have had radios, sirens and more. The camps are ultimately responsible and all the other camps got out. They should have enough buses to move everyone.

You just don't know what you are talking about but your assuming and blaming seem to make you feel better so have it.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

I work as a researcher in geographical sciences, focusing on remote sensing. My projects include climate change. I also volunteer and donate to environmental organizations. Care to tell me how you are more “stepped up” than I am now?

I'm not smacking you around for having an opinion about what could be done to prevent disasters like this in the future.

And I’m not “smacking anyone around” for doing that; I am talking about the ghouls who are literally saying they don’t care because it’s Texas, they voted for it, blah blah blah. This thread has at least three gross posts on every page, and if you’re going to deny that, there’s no point in talking with you, because you don’t face reality. If my chastising post doesn’t apply to you, then ease on down the road.

That’s the reality. This happened in Texas, a notorious red state. This happened to children at a Christian camp. Children whose parents almost certainly all voted for Trump. Those are three strikes against them for a lot of people here.


It’s not exactly hard to fathom why people here say they don’t care. They’re just being honest. They shouldn’t be excoriated for being honest.

Stop making this about politics. It was neglect on the state, county, camp licensing and most importantly the camp.

I don't understand comments like these. It's like you're thinking politics are a sports team.

Politics affects people's lives directly. How you vote affects people's lives. How you vote has real life consequences--many of which are fatal

Maybe you've lived an incredibly privileged life that you haven't bore many of the consequences of political decisions, but now dozens of girls bore the consequences of many of their parents' political decisions. It's utterly tragic and heartbreaking.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

DP. What are the horrible comments?

There have been multiple comments where posters say they don't feel bad for the dead girls because their parents are probably Trump supporters. There was also a comment early on referring sarcastically to the girls as "your precious little blond Christian girls" and at least one poster defending it.

Please point out where somebody said they did not feel bad about the girls.

First post that is quoted on this page:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/180/1281824.page

Literally says NO COMPASSION

Wow the reading comprehension on this site is in the pits.

Poster A makes a mocking post about how people will blame Trump.

Poster B replies, "I don't know why you find this funny." A direct callout to poster A, referring to them with "you."

Poster C quotes and bolds the "I don't know why you find this funny" comment, replying to it with, "I'm going to guess they support Trump. No compassion." Poster C is saying that the reason Poster A "finds this funny" is because "they support Trump. No compassion." The "no compassion" comment is in reference to Poster A's blah blah comment about Trump vs Harris. It's not a comment about the girls or the girls families. And here we are pages later like some demented game of telephone with people still not understanding the exchange.

Read this page of comments. There are multiple comments about how they don’t care about christians or Texans.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

I work as a researcher in geographical sciences, focusing on remote sensing. My projects include climate change. I also volunteer and donate to environmental organizations. Care to tell me how you are more “stepped up” than I am now?

I'm not smacking you around for having an opinion about what could be done to prevent disasters like this in the future.

And I’m not “smacking anyone around” for doing that; I am talking about the ghouls who are literally saying they don’t care because it’s Texas, they voted for it, blah blah blah. This thread has at least three gross posts on every page, and if you’re going to deny that, there’s no point in talking with you, because you don’t face reality. If my chastising post doesn’t apply to you, then ease on down the road.

That’s the reality. This happened in Texas, a notorious red state. This happened to children at a Christian camp. Children whose parents almost certainly all voted for Trump. Those are three strikes against them for a lot of people here.


It’s not exactly hard to fathom why people here say they don’t care. They’re just being honest. They shouldn’t be excoriated for being honest.

Stop making this about politics. It was neglect on the state, county, camp licensing and most importantly the camp.

I don't understand comments like these. It's like you're thinking politics are a sports team.

Politics affects people's lives directly. How you vote affects people's lives. How you vote has real life consequences--many of which are fatal

Maybe you've lived an incredibly privileged life that you haven't bore many of the consequences of political decisions, but now dozens of girls bore the consequences of many of their parents' political decisions. It's utterly tragic and heartbreaking.

This is quite the rhetorical leap. (Democrat Central Texan from above.)

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

You're not going to survive well in an anonymous chat form if you don't learn how to identify and ignore trolls.

You are not helpless in the face of this disaster. You can take a look at it and try to understand why it happened. Precisely out of respect for the people that lost their lives

You may disagree that it is worth investing in, and having respect for a robust national weather service and all the infrastructure that it takes to have that. But there is nothing disrespectful in posters expressing that view.

I don't disagree with funding the NWS and having whatever infrastructure is necessary. That has nothing to do with showing basic human decency when referring to these children, who presumably died horrible deaths. Those two things are compatible. You don't have to be an a-hole to support the NWS.

Why does any functioning adult need the NWS to tell them that a creek prone to flash flooding will flash flood after 10” of sudden rain?

I mean, at some point, people have to use their own brains and not be reliant on some authority to spoon feed them every single action they should take.

The counselors and management of this camp are to blame. Period. Because they knew the history of flooding at the camp. They knew it had been raining for hours. But they didn’t even monitor the creek. They couldn’t be bothered to.


But some of you here are vitally dependent on making this the fault of DOGE and Trump. So you excuse people who allowed children to be killed because they were too lazy/stupid to think that flooding might occur after record amounts of rain.

You’re blaming the 19 year old counselors for this?

There are 19 year olds in our military who are crewing deadly war machines of all types. In light of their service, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a much smaller degree of responsibility out of camp counselors. Specifically, to have the forethought to think flooding might be a possibility. That is NOT unreasonable.